CO-04 (Special Election)
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(R) Greg Lopez
(R) Trisha Calvarese
90%
10%
President (To Win Colorado)
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(D) Joe Biden*
(R) Donald Trump
80%
20%↓
CO-01 (Denver)
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(D) Diana DeGette*
90%
CO-02 (Boulder-ish)
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(D) Joe Neguse*
90%
CO-03 (West & Southern CO)
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(D) Adam Frisch
(R) Jeff Hurd
(R) Ron Hanks
40%
30%
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CO-04 (Northeast-ish Colorado)
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(R) Lauren Boebert
(R) Deborah Flora
(R) J. Sonnenberg
30%↑
15%↑
10%↓
CO-05 (Colorado Springs)
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(R) Dave Williams
(R) Jeff Crank
50%↓
50%↑
CO-06 (Aurora)
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(D) Jason Crow*
90%
CO-07 (Jefferson County)
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(D) Brittany Pettersen
85%↑
CO-08 (Northern Colo.)
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(D) Yadira Caraveo
(R) Gabe Evans
(R) Janak Joshi
60%↑
35%↓
30%↑
State Senate Majority
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DEMOCRATS
REPUBLICANS
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State House Majority
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March 28, 2016 10:53 AM UTC
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Polis has to respect the voters intent and endorse Bernie, while dumping Clinton like a hot potato. Same for Ed Perlmutter. What an idiot. Frackenlooper is already a lost cause, and his endorsement is worth zero to me.
Show me where it says super delegates need to follow the will of the voters they can make up their own mind. Don't like superdelegates then try to get rid of it. You can also try to primary these guys but doubt that works.
Under the rules Polis has to do no such thing, whether you like it or not, DP. You're welcome to try to talk him into it and you're welcome to work to get the system changed but you are mistaken in contending that he is in any way obligated to go along with the majority of Colorado's Dem caucus voters. Raging at him for not doing as he's told is proabably not going to be terribly constructive in any effort to sway him.
That's right. Jared has a good sense of humor and anyone has the right to lobby him, but his vote is his own. He has no obligation to speak for anyone but himself as a delegate.
And since Polis won his seat as about as centrist a Dem Rep as any in congress, I don't see how anyone who voted for him could expect him to support Sanders over HRC, especially in the absence of Sanders holding a national lead in the regular delegate count. Even then the whole point of supers is to avoid a repeat of the 49 state McGovern loss and it's up to the supers to proceed bearing that in mind and as they see fit.
I read over the weekend that Harry Hempy (The guy with the next-best name to Chuck Grassley) left the Green Party and is going to challenge the best Cannabis Congressman on Capitol Hill in a primary.
The ads write themselves…
I looked at Hempy's campaign site – it's a bit cringeworthy. He is clearly feeling the Bern, and that's not a bad thing, except that he has all of the rhetoric and none of the experience. Hempy comes across as a complete opportunist, hoping to cash in on Sanders' popularity.
Polis does need a challenger from the left, and perhaps Hempy can have some of the same effect on Polis that Sanders is having on Clinton. But that's about all the impact he will have, I'm thinking.
I agree with most of* Hempy's platform:
Ban fracking and end fossil fuel extraction in the U.S. *(I'm not going to advocate for banning and ending, but for a much quicker transition to renewables)
Flush the TPP – support American workers.
Break up the banks – reinstate Glass-Steagall.
Limit spending on elections with an amendment to reverse the Citizens United decision.
Advocate for the People's Budget and join the Progressive Caucus.
So much for the "Democrat" Party!
Never heard of it. I suppose the quotes are an admission that you know there's no such thing.
NY Times has front page story today about how you guys ended up with Herr Drumpf. One factor: the GOP doesn't have super delegates. You guys may want to rethink that after you see the train wreck coming in November.
Or better yet, go back to your traditional method of picking a candidate. Nominate the one whose turn is next.
This business about letting your base vote is really dicey stuff when so much of your base is batshit crazy.
Caucuses are hardly representative of the electorate. They attract a teeny tiny sliver, usually representing the extreme of both parties (see Robertson, Santorum, Huckabee and the Iowa Caucuses) and exclude people who don't have 5 free hours on one particular evening, or don't have childcare, or have an evening job or a day job that leaves no time for 5 hours of sitting in a gym.
Polis should be wise and stick with Clinton as Bernie, now matter how hot he berns with the Democratic and Independent left, will get sliced and diced by the GOP in a general. They have tons of ammo on a socialist who wants to raise taxes, expand government and has praised Cuba's revolution and celebrated with the Sandinistas. It will be a brutal beatdown that will leave Bernie carrying Vermont and DC and nothing else.
flatiron,
Polls disagree. Sanders beats Trump and Cruz by wider margins than Clinton does.
Caucus attenders would disagree that they exclude "regular people" or working people. Did you go to your caucus? I did, and I saw plenty of working folks who had showed up for the first time, mostly to support Bernie Sanders. My little caucus venue was standing room only – they had 10 times as many Democrats as they had in the last election. This pattern was repeated across the state.
You can get all snooty and look down your nose at Sanders supporters and caucus goers as not real Democrats, not real working people, not worthy of serious attention, but I think you do this at peril of becoming irrelevant yourself. Democratic regulars always bemoan the lack of "new blood" and "younger people" at party functions – then, when the new and young voters turn up, they are scorned as dilettantes.
By the way, I do agree that we need to go to a straight primary system.
Good insight – couldn't agree with you more. I too would prefer a straight primary system, but I will say that Bernie Sanders drew more working class voters to the Democratic Party caucuses than in previous years. It's similar to the interest in 2008 when a newcomer young Sen. Obama attracted new voters.
Whether Clinton beats Trump or Cruz by 1% or 10%, it's still a win. Sanders hasn't encountered the Tsunami of mud that would hit him if a black swan event happens and he is the Democratic Party nominee. You assume his favorable numbers will continue because Republicans haven't hit him with his endorsement of Castro and his honeymoon in the Soviet Union. Clinton polls behind Sanders in thumping the Republicans because she is known and has been vilified by Republicans for decades. They can't dig up anymore dirt than they have. Sanders is a bonanza of surprise waiting to implode under the scrutiny of his every little fling with the Sandinistas. I get it that you really really like the guy and truly believe he is the best candidate but making claims that he would clean up in the General ignores the fact that he would be pummeled with Jane Fonda dirt if he was the nominee and the end result would be even his dog would think he is a traitor. People have already decided on Clinton and the fact that she is still polling better than Trump or Cruz is a pretty good indication that she could weather any slings and arrows that they could throw at her and still win. Winning the White House is what matters and it doesn't matter if it is by a little or by a lot.
She is time tested and battle hardened.
Polls for the general this far out are very unreliable. Everybody already knows HRC and what they don't like about her. Rs are focusing on her when they aren't focusing on each other. Right now general election voters know next to nothing about Sanders except that he's for the little guy.
In the unlikely event of a Bernie nomination it would be wall to wall Bernie is a commie who wants to tax you to death to give away free stuff, impoverish the rich and abolish free enterprise 24/7. Along with more under the radar reminders that he's not just a commie but a Godless atheist commie Jew. Do you really want to turn the WH over to someone who doesn't accept Jesus as his personal savior or really give a damn about Jesus one way or the other? Of course that last bit would be true.
Those polls may not be accurate https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/11/19/bernie-sanders-says-hes-more-electable-than-hillary-clinton-um/
Dustpuppy – I would have thought that Senator Sanders was aware that the Democratic Party had superdelegates before he registered as a democrat in APRIL of 2015 for the sole intent and purpose of running for the presidency. If he was unaware that the Democratic Party had 15% unbound delegates then that's on him. The purpose of unbound delegates is to allow for independent thought and prevent an Outlier like Mr. Trump from taking over the party for their personal purposes. Perhaps is Senator Sanders had registered to be a Democrat earlier than 11 months ago then maybe he could have worked within the party apparatus to change the rules or worked for Democratic Party causes and earned the trust of these super delegates. As it is, he did neither and now comes off as a carpetbagger wanting something that isn't mandatory for him to get. Rank and file super delegates will probably switch if he wins the popular vote and pledged delegates so I would suggest you send him more money for all that air time in New York and Pennsylvania. Send more money is your best solution.
I would have thought that Senator Sanders was aware that the Democratic Party had superdelegates before he registered as a democrat in APRIL of 2015
When one is planning a revolution, one cannot be bothered with trivia like party rules and bylaws. Leave that to the lawyers like Bill and Hillary.
And your endorsement, dustbin, is worth what?
Does this work both ways?
I mean, if Elizabeth Warren ever gives up her neutrality, she won't be able to vote for Bernie (although she's a lot closer to him than to HRC) since HRC won Massachusetts. And Alan Grayson in Florida won't be able to vote for Bernie although they both share a strong belief in the single payer idea for health care since Hillary won Florida. And Raul Grijalva, one of the few members of Congress to endorse Bernie, would have to vote for HRC since she won Arizona.
Nope only against Hillary cause Bernie is the messiah
Well he is a Jewish guy but don't know whether or not he descends from the House of David so….. maybe not.
here's another one who thinks I'm an idiot….
Never!
Sorry BC…I was actually addressing you, referring to the new guy(?) Democrat 1207.
That meme whereby Bernie supporters view him as a messiah grows ever more tiresome…
They used to say we all thought Obama was the messiah.
True that.
Yes, I'd like it if Polis would switch, but don't really expect him to. As others have pointed out, he doesn't have to do anything except follow his own conscience.
If Sanders does get more popular votes than Hillary, then I think many people, including superdelegates, should start recalibrating their language and their votes.
So far that's still a big if.
Except they have put plenty of memes out there that show this I'm sorry if I implied they all are like this but some certainly are.
Apology accepted….and welcome to Pols.
This is not a new discussion. Yes, D1207, there are some who have a starry-eyed view of Bernies' candidacy and think somehow he will change the world with one fell swoop…but not me. Nor do most of the Bernie supporters I know.
To us, Bernie represents the best chance we, as U.S. citizens, have to shake off the suffocating avalanche of money that has given our government over to those who would happily buy it. Until we reform our election process, we will struggle to find justice for the average working person in this land that once stood for opportunity and fairness.
Bernie Sanders offers a chance to loosen the shackles of economic bondage that have been ever tightening since the Reagan presidency began to give the great Money Machine free rein to rig the system. The "Citizens United" decision was the knife in the heart to the aspirations of the common working man and woman in America.
Bernie is the only candidate who clearly understands this AND is willing to do something about it.
The story of Jesus being born in Bethlehem was concocted to place him in the house of david. In reality, he was almost certainly born in Nazareth. In that light, can't we assume anyone born in Brooklyn is in the house of David?
Not being Christian I don't understand how you can be the Son of God and from the House of David. Jewish descent (son of) goes through your father even though your status as a Jew depends on your mother. If Jesus isn't supposed to have a human father, how is he of the House of David or any other? Wouldn't he just be House of God? Of course my grasp of Christian theology is limited to what I learned frm my Catholic across the street childhood buddy (my Protestant friends didn't know much about theirs) so what do I know?
Now in the Jewish Messiah fairy tale…. no son of God, no all human, all devine God in human flesh, no trinity, presumably born the old fashioned way into the House of David. No mention of Brooklyn.
I will say I feel pretty smug about knowing the difference between the Immaculate Conception and the Virgin Birth. I know lots of Chritians who don't. My friend knew her stuff and I was wildy jealous when she got to dress up like a little bride for her First Holy Communion. She, on the other hand, was terrified at the prospect of having to come up with things to confess that would be enough but not so much as to get her into too much trouble.
Personally I prefer the "immaculate reception" by Franco Harris in the 1972 NFL playoffs that sent the Steelers towards their first Super Bowl.
Just sign me as C.H.B., free thinker and non-theist.
Hyam Maccoby, in Revolution in Judaea, details the length early Christian writers went to make Jesus conform to Jewish prophecy about the messiah. The whole bethlehem tale was designed to establish that Joseph was in the House of David. In truth, there was no "special census" that year (Romans kept very good records of such things. More important, when they had a census they counted you where you lived, like we do today. The business of returning to the city of your birth was about putting Joseph and Jesus in the house of David. As to being God's son or Joseph's, he was both. Likewise, Alexander was the son of Zeus but also of Phillip– he wouldn't have inherited the throne otherwise. In ancient times, having a God as your biological father and a mortal as your dad to raise you, etc., was accepted. Great Book by Maccoby, you'd love it.
Of course Jews aren't persuaded that anything about Jesus conforms to our prophesy/mythology. And the whole messiah thing gets barely a mention in Jewish religious services, including the Torah readings. Neither does the after life. More about your vinyards prospering and your cattle getting fat. That sort of thing. Greek mythology is lots more fun, if you ask me.
As deities go, I will take Athena over Yahweh or Joshua (jesus) any day. At least she looked great in greaves!
But wouldn't you rather party with Dionysus? Not on a weekly basis of course. Too draining. Might pull a muscle or something.
I still think Bacchus is just more fun….but I am a simple guy…
Think that's pretty much the same guy, Roman. Roman god names usually easier to say and spell.
oh…ok
"bernie is the messiah……" Sounds like a re-make of The Agony & The Ecstasy is coming. As in, the ecstasy now of all the Bernie lovers as their god got 45+ more delegates from HI, AK, WA than Hillary got. The agony will come when reality intervenes and they have to realize that the Bern has no chance of being elected. Just think of the attack ads to come from Freedom Works, Americans for Prosperity, Club for Growth, and all the religious fundies that will be directed at Senator Sanders.
So Bernie has gotten $140 million from his individual donors. That's peanuts compared to what the Koch Brothers alone will put in; let along mentioning the money to come from Sheldon Abelson and other billionaires. Sanders '16 will be a repeat of McGovern '72 (those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it).
Bernie had a great trifecta, chb. But he is almost out of lily white caucus states with only wyoming and South Dakota left_ plus guam, american Samoa and Puerto Rico, the later of which hillary might win. He is the Caucus King, having won 11 of 13. But Hillary is the Queen of primaries, having won 16 of 20. Hillary will probably win New York and Pennsylvania to lock up the nomination on pledged delegates alone. That's why the koch heads haven't wasted money trashing the bern. But any Democrat, including Ron Blagovich, would beat trump.
Rep. Polis is smart to stick with the winning candidate (who also claimed 40% of Colorado caucus-goers).
He won 60% of what???? Caucus goers are a very small group as compared to the Democratic electorate. He got them out and he won the pledged delegates. But if you want me to believe that in a primary he would have won, well, I don't believe it. what this proves is that when a lot of you folks were opposed to the referendum to get rid of the caucus, you were just plain wrong.
I think you misunderstand.
Alas, Boulder is less than half the Congressional District anymore. I would urge Polis to stick to his guns. He knows more about these people than any of us. Use your good judgment.
Not to the question of who Jared should vote for, but there isn't a county that I'm aware of in CD-2 that didn't go for Sanders by a good chunk– so it's not just Boulder
http://wtop.com/presidential-election/2016/03/2016-colorado-presidential-caucus-results-democrats-only/
Bernie won in my neck of south suburbia. My HD is in CD6. No question caucus goers preferred Bernie. In my precinct which is in Littleton proper, he only won by one vote but he didn't lose. None of which means Polis is going to get ousted for going for HRC.