“When I despair, I remember that the way of truth and love has always won. There may be tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it: always.”
–Ben Kingsley, from Gandhi
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Two-thumbs up to DP for grabbing the opening salvo this morning and pushing our morans to the bottom of the feed. They've been reduced to arguing the efficacy of the work of Mother Mary Harris Jones.
Just hours away from electing our first woman POTUS – what a great day.
Why thank you, my good man; I can assure you it was purely intentional! This is our day; their lies and trash deserve to wallow elsewhere.
Shorter Gandhi: All evil is transitory.
Shorter DawnPatrol: Donald Drumpf is transitory, and the current (since 1980) iteration of the GOP-Nationalist White People Party is transitory.
I've been trying to figure out the Real Clear Politics site. As of yesterday; and still this AM; they show Clinton winning by a 272 to 266 margin in the Electoral College. Everything else I've seen clearly shows Clinton taking Nevada, which RCP awards to Trump; and also Florida, which is closer. 538 predicts a Clinton win by 70% to 30% likelihood. Sabato's Crystal Ball, from University of Virginia Center for Politics, shows Clinton taking the College 322 to 216. While I remain unsure of North Carolina, which Sabato gives to Clinton, I think a landslide in the College of that margin is needed to quiet the Trumpies, at least a little.
Anyway, recall the line; for those old enough to remember; from the Temptations 1970 song, "Ball of Confusion." "Vote for me and I'll set you free."
C.H.B., I agree that anything short of a clear cut win for H.R.C. will feed into the conspiracy/paranoia of the Trumpkins and the Tea Baggers. I put together my own list which is extremely conservative (with a small "C") as to which states I place in which column. It's a lot like the R.C.P. map except I have H.R.C. taking Nevada. I put everything else that's close (FL, NC, OH and the single ME C.D.) into Trump's column. H.R.C. wins with 278 electoral votes. Anything above that is gravy.
My prediction on the Senate: 50/50 split. GOP takes nothing from Dems. Dems take IL, WI, PA and (this is the really sweet one) MO from the GOP. Evan Bayh and Roy Blunt both lose because people are sick of D.C. pols and their ties to lobbyists.
Dems have a net gain of 6 House seats. There simply aren't enough seats in play in truly competitive districts. Paul Ryan ends up with a very close call on being renominated by his conference for speaker because the six Republican House members who lose their seats are (what pass as) moderates.
Closer to home, the state senate remains 18 Republicans and 17 Dems. Laura Waters Woods loses but Nancy Doty wins. Dems keep the House. Sadly, the Congressional delegation remains the same. Morgan Carroll finishes with roughly the same percentage that Joe Melosi got in 2012.
I also think Coffman will win. For the simple reason that no matter what he's up against – the guy wins. If so that sucks because Carroll would make a great representative. She'd be an agent of change.
David, why do you think Coffman chickened out of running against Senator Bennet? I suspect it's because he fears he can't win outside of his little CD-6 fiefdom; higher visibility statewide would invite much tougher scrutiny, and he simply can't bear that much light…
I also suspect Morgan Carroll squeaks it out, btw.
Coffman has actually won three statewide races himself, while his wife won one. I imagine the Coffman name is better known, throughout Colorado, than Bennet.
I suspect Coffman stayed with the 6th CD in order to earn a shot at being the new chairman of the House Veterans Affair Committee in the 115th Congress.
CHB, I'm giving N.C. to Clinton because I think the movement to fire Gov. McCrory will boost Dem turnout by quite a bit. He drove the state's economy off a cliff with that stupid "turn away the gays" law and he's still fighting to preserve it. His Dem opponent is Roy Cooper, the A.G. who refused to defend it. Pence was in the same boat after signing a similar bill in Indiana. He was in line for a drubbing until Trump tossed him a lifeline. He'll still lose, but now it'll be Trump's fault Pence isn't V.P.
I'm originally from Indiana and still have family and friends there. Heard from long time friend couple weeks ago. He said Pence was in deep doo-doo if he had ran for re-election. We Hoosiers may be conservative, but we don't want somebody flucking with the state economy without good reason, as Pence did.
See? I don't even live there and I figured it out.
I think the vote will favor Clinton more than the polls are showing. By just a couple of points, but a couple more points makes a landslide. She takes all the battleground states and will take or come very very close in Ohio & Arizona.
Why?
1. I think most undecideds are not so much undecided as they haven't accepted yet that no Donald requires a vote for Hillary. But today it's a binary choice where yuck beats no fucking way.
2. Older women, who tend to be Republican, will look at that ballot and see the chance to put a woman in the White House. That's a gigantic emotional choice for the women who grew up with limited opportunities because of their gender. A lot of them will vote for Hillary and will then walk out after voting with tears of joy.
God, I hope you are right! Especially about the older Republican women. They should take their cue from Barbara Bush who said months ago that she could not see how any woman could vote for Trump.
Colorado hits the VICE "news" early on.
They are claiming " VoteCastr’s models and methods are based on the same techniques that presidential campaigns use. Its founders were part of previous presidential campaigns for Barack Obama and George W. Bush. What we see is likely what the war rooms inside the presidential campaigns are seeing. "
Anyone agree?
The University of Denver poll has early voters favoring Clinton by 45-37.
319 Clinton
219 Dumpster
Just visited Colorado Peak Politics site…….and you just never know where you will find good stuff. Yesterday, former state senator Greg Brophy wrote an excellent guest column about why he is voting for 106, the end of life ballot initiative. I think it's well worth a read.
Really? The watermelon hunter is voting yes on 106? Isn't he afraid the right-to-life people will yank his credentials?
I'm guessing we'll never see this published in The Wray Gazette. Our shared hometown is blanketed with yard signs offering a different opinion. He's never been pro-life, he's pro-birth.
Oh fuck me, it's almost over!!! I've got a fridge full of beer and playlists ready for Her victory. I'm not thinking about what I'll do if Dumpster wins.
Thanks for the reminder.
Shorter Ben Kingsley. Nope, he is already.
The Utter Failure and Cowardice of Republican Party Leaders
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Rather than being their BFF's and yearn for another era of Great Bipartisanship, Democrats need to remind voter of this at every opportunity:
You're slipping, Zap. I've read through this twice and see no mention of Bennet.![smiley smiley](https://cdn.ckeditor.com/4.5.10/full-all/plugins/smiley/images/regular_smile.png)
Michael McDonald
@ElectProjectColorado
#earlyvote update 11/8: 2.2 Million voted (surpasses 2012 early). Rep lead 0.7 y'day -> 0.8 points. Trumps needs more, like +7.0This is an interesting read:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/05/opinion/beyond-lying-donald-trumps-authoritarian-reality.html
Oh, you mean like " hope & change", or " stronger together ".
Has nothing to do with "hope and change" or with "stronger together." Problem for Trump; one of many; is that his campaign has been one GIGANTIC lie from the start.
Pee Pee, either through willful ignorance or apathy, it seems you might have missed this about your party and its candidates:
PeePee can't read:
Mother Jones……oh that is funny, is this what Democrats resort to quoting? Surely you have something better, Mother Jones, your killing me…….
Pitiful Pair — Sorry to hear that you find the GOP turning to fascism, totalitarianism and racism so funny. You must find George Orwell's 1984 totally hilarious.
Good thing a majority of voters do not agree with you.
A US Senate committee once labeled Mother Mary Harris Jones "the most dangerous woman in America." She fought for women's rights, fought against child labor and injected herself in to the Ludlow Massacre issue. She had more grit and courage in her pinky than you have in your entire being.
O…….K, and good for her, but I don't think she wrote the article Davie thinks is so important. Don't I get some credit for grit by putting up with all you
DemocratDemocratic haters?Counting the hours to bye bye time.
Little problem for you there, P.P. I'm not a Democratic hater. I'm a long time registered Republican and pretty conservative at that (paraphrasing someone else around here from last few days: "stay out of my wallet and keep your religious dogma out of my bedroom"). I have yet to see that you have any genuine Republican bona-fides; and I don't include your shilling for Corrupt and Sleazy Donald since he's a Republican only by convenience. He's actually sort of a modern-day Mussolini.
The publication is founded on the principles and values of Mother Mary Harris Jones, moran. I was wrong earlier. There isn't enough sugar in town to make a palatable compote out of you.
Early results are good for Clinton. Votecastr (visit their site for their methodology) has the following:
Colo: Clinton +5, with 72.2% vote in
FL: Clinton +4, 75% in
Iowa: Trump +1, 56% in
Nev.: Clinton +3, 59% in
NH: Clinton +3, 44% in
Ohio, Clinton +1, 60% in
PA Clinton + 4, 46% in
Wis: Clinton +6, 48% in.
If this holds, a comfortable victory for Clinton, though not a blowout.
https://news.vice.com/story/live-election-day-turnout-results-with-votecastr-eod
Great advice for any sane, rational GOPers still remaining, from the increasingly coherent Jennifer Rubin:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2016/10/26/sane-republicans-should-pack-their-bags-and-flee-the-gop/?tid=pm_opinions_pop_b&utm_term=.0b0fc0762582
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2016/11/08/give-it-a-rest-republicans/?tid=pm_opinions_pop_b
Trust is really hard for Trump (and his son) when it comes to who their spouses are voting for:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-melania-voting-photo_us_58220b22e4b0e80b02ccfcee
I was hoping this election would have been about GOP obstructionism. Government shutdowns, debt defaults, Supreme Court nomination blocking, lack of legislation passing, etc. Instead, the media took polling showing the country is headed in the wrong direction as just a general malaise. Of course, the Dems failed to generate a message about obstructionism. As a result, Hillary will face an emboldened House, even with Morgan Carroll as a new member, that will continue to obstruct as it waits for the 2018 onslaught that is sure to come. Sad, but at least the country lives to see another day (I hope).
True — the media is unable or unwilling to connect the dots. Recently I saw an article on a similar poll, and they were bewildered by the fact that Obama's rating were rising.
Apparently, simpleton thinking is that our God/King (any President) must save us or He is entirely to blame. No wonder Trump has built a significant following of true believers in his new Trump Brand Messiah
They’re with her…