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April 19, 2007 08:08 PM UTC
26 Comments
your mommy didn’t think that way huh dumbass?
You wouldn’t be here to preach your selfish bullshit.
Good thing that his mommy didn’t think “Don’t like abortion? Don’t have one.” Well, if she thought that and didn’t have one then pacified would still be here. Duh.
Try to think before you flame.
you know what L I A S was trying to say. I do anyway.
He is telling Pacified that he/she is fuckin lucky that his dear ol mom never let the thought of an abortion enter her mind. Otherwise we would be short one “give the world away” liberal. And his/her mom would have had to live with the knowledge that she killed her own kid.
You know it.
You just like to let women decide it is ok to kill their kids when it is not convienant for them.
Right?
since you are sooooooooooo brilliant.
I could have been aborted. My mom was 36 when she had me, so she got that test to see if I had enough chromosomes. She would have aborted me if I didn’t have the right amount.
And you know what? Big whooop.
The stupidest fucking argument ever: “good thing your mom didn’t get an abortion”.
Yeah, and too bad you didn’t get born with a brain.
Who the fuck do you think you are to tell a woman what to do with HER body anyway.
Get a life.
jerk aren’t you Pacified?
Kill babies because it is “a women’s choice”
Now that has to be the dumbest thing ever said.
If I was religous I would say “just wait until you arrive at the pearly gates and god asks you why you push so hard for women to kill their kids”. I would love to see your responce as he sends you to see Satan.
I am not relgious but even I know that it is wrong to kill babies. You say you are pacified, but you actually encourage killing kids.
What an ass.
It is ok to kill kids but the death penalty is wrong? War and all of its killings is wrong?
You get a life you poor stupid liberal.
It’s okay to kill ’em before they make it out, but if they get here, nothing can touch them. Survival of the most wanted, right?
Hmm, Gecko, since you seem to think there’s a special place in hell for pro-choice people, should you be banned from this blog? 😉
I think I’m going to make a CORA request of all anti-choice legislators in the GA and see if any of them have ever said such a thing, and demand that they resign, especially if they sit on any public health committees.
Besides that, I was pointing out that he wasn’t directly addressing pacified’s post.
If you really don’t want people to have abortions, though, then encourage effective sex education (no stupid abstinence BS, it’s ineffective) and readily available contraception. Accept the reality that teens sometimes have sex and give them the preparation they need.
I can speak from personal experience that not getting pregnant in the first place is the best way to prevent abortion. If everyone were as informed as I was there’d be no abortion.
if my mom had an abortion.
I wouldn’t be here. I wouldn’t care.
What a stupid argument you make.
Everyone has their expertise.
Guess what, stupid “pro-lifers”– getting pregnant is NOT a miracle. There is nothing special about pregnancy. The only reason you exist as a being is to pro-create. You are one big group of cells with one purpose– pro-creation.
I just quit feeling special. Since I’m no longer procreating, should I die now?:)
Or infertility clinics.
Why?
Well, if your baby comes out 3 months too soon, isn’t it obvious God wanted it dead? So why are you defying God’s will and putting all those tubes in it?
And, to you fertility clinic users: God wanted your barren for a reason! Why are you defying God’s will!
I agree.
Don’t like porn, don’t look at it.
Don’t like guns, don’t buy one.
Don’t like religion, don’t pray.
Don’t like abortions, don’t get one.
I can choose to buy or not buy a gun, but what can I do about the speeding bullet shooting toward me?
“Gun control means using both hands.”
to give a real answer later, but I gotta get goin’ now.
The way I see it is the bullet coming towards you is meant to do you harm. This is the fundamental disagreement on abortion. I believe the woman who chooses to have an abortion has weighed the options in her mind and believes more harm would come in allowing the child to be born. That is a justified choice in my eyes.
Someone who fires a gun at you intends only harm. This isn’t justified and they should be punished.
Abortion is the most difficult problem we face. Any issue dealing with life or death is by nature emotionally charged and reason loses to rhetoric. I favor allowing women a choice because I know that 1) they’re a hell of a lot smarter than men and 2) it is their decision to live with, not the legislators nor the judges.
I was thinking more about including “don’t like guns, don’t buy one” with the other statements.
Ginsburg’s dissent may yet prevail
The justice argues that equality, not privacy, is crucial in the abortion right.
By Cass R. Sunstein, CASS R. SUNSTEIN teaches at the University of Chicago Law School.
IN THE LONG RUN, the most important part of the Supreme Court’s ruling on “partial-birth” abortions may not be Justice Anthony M. Kennedy’s opinion for the majority. It might well be Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s dissent, which attempts, for the first time in the court’s history, to justify the right to abortion squarely in terms of women’s equality rather than privacy.
Roe vs. Wade, decided in 1973, was founded on the right of privacy in the medical domain, but the court’s argument was exceedingly weak. The Constitution does not use the word “privacy” anywhere, and, in any case, the idea of privacy seems to describe a right of seclusion, not a right of patients and doctors to decide as they see fit.
And everyone knew, even in 1973, that the debate over abortion had a great deal to do with women’s equality.
In 1985, Ginsburg, then a federal appeals court judge, argued in a law review article that the court should have emphasized “a woman’s autonomous charge of her full life’s course.” Citing decisions on sex equality, she contended that Roe vs. Wade was “weakened … by the opinion’s concentration on a medically approved autonomy idea, to the exclusion of a constitutionally based sex-equality perspective.”
In this week’s case, Ginsburg, now the only woman on the court, attempted to re-conceive the foundations of the abortion right, basing it on well-established constitutional principles of equality. Borrowing from her 1985 argument, she said that legal challenges to restrictions on abortion procedures “do not seek to vindicate some generalized notion of privacy; rather, they center on a woman’s autonomy to determine her life’s course, and thus to enjoy equal citizenship stature.”
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then don’t get one.
Great come back for the Pacifist……..
First off an abortion is not killing children. Now we can argue when life begins, but that will be a moot point.
Second, rape, incest, and abnormalities will make most women not want to give to birth.
Third, asking a 17 year old girl to go to school pregnant and give birth, in mind is all about choice. Before you start the argument that she should have kept her legs closed – Gentlemen, look in the mirror. If all the times you had unprotected sex – would you decide to have the baby of the women who was with you?
And lastly, the fact is simple – it is my body and my life. Just wondering how fast the Bush twins would have an abortion… (oh, yeah. When you are rich you can have an overnight procedure called a DNC, the scraping of the uterus and nobody will ever know there was a baby in there. That however does cost a few dollars) if the father was Black, Latino or poor?
Let’s not be hypocrites here. 40 million abortions – do you really think all these men would be outstanding fathers and stand by their 17 year old girlfriend? Why should a woman have to pay for the rest of her life for a one time indiscretion?
And BTW, I was adopted. My mother had me when she was 17. She was white, my dad was black. My grandfather stated clearly that someone who looked like me was not welcome in the family. My mother never had any more children. And has never come to terms with being forced to give me up.
So gentlemen, think before you post. What would you want for your daughter? I assume, if you loved her, you would want to let her make up her own mind on when she becomes a mother.
Great way to gloss over the fact that abortion IS killing a living being.
Kinda easy to do though if you simply downplay the killing to the same thing as taking out the trash.
Nice mom material there WLJ.