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November 06, 2005 09:00 AM UTC

Small Line Changes

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  • by: Colorado Pols

UPDATE: We missed this yesterday, but The Denver Post weighed in on Bob Beauprez’s lukewarm opposition of Referenda C&D and the political implications. We’re not the only ones saying it — just the first. From the Post:

Congressman Beauprez made a poor calculation. Some have praised him for cleverly sidestepping the Republican mudfight, but our view is simple: He knew that Owens and Romanoff were doing the right thing and should have joined them. Instead, he opposed the measure from the safe seats on the sidelines.

The state budget is the most important item any governor must deal with. What kind of leadership can Beauprez offer voters whose interests he abandoned this fall? He should take a lesson in leadership and fiscal responsibility from Owens.

We’ve made a few quick changes to the Big Line:

First off, Bob Beauprez has caused his campaign some real harm, first with lukewarm opposition to Referenda C&D and then with pouring salt in the wounds with an asinine press release about “fiscal restraint” the day after the election, that we’ve dropped him slightly below Marc Holtzman, who has been reaching out to his conservative base since the election and winning new friends, apparently.

Beauprez may be looking to smooth out the wrinkles in his campaign, however, because we hear that he is looking to hire a campaign manager from the East Coast, perhaps soon.

The other change to the Big Line involves CD-7; we missed that Republican Mark Paschall has filed his first financial reports. While he only reported raising $12,675, with $10,934, this is the first confirmation that he may be serious about running after all.

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  1. I realize that blogging isn’t like journalism, but I’m trying to find evidence of your claim.  I haven’t found one quote from a disgruntled Republican legislator, county commissioner, etc… about Beauprez.  Not even a “man on the street” perspective, aside from the abstract blogs you referenced.  I think you are fabricating this issue as a service to the Democrats you work with, who would clearly prefer Holtzman over Beauprez as an opponent.

  2. Got a Beauprez staffer waiting to pounce on everything this blog says, don’t you?

    Pathetic. Read the papers. Read the blogs — “abstract” blogs? The RM Alliance of Blogs has enjoyed great access under the Gold Dome this year. Beauprez disses them at his ignorant peril.

    Just another whiner like your dairy-farm pinche jota of a boss.

  3. for the record, I am in no way a part of the Beauprez campaign, paid or otherwise. It just feels like Coloradopols is trying to steer the debate, rather than report on it. 

    Look at all of the stuff they missed in the weekend papers that is more newsworthy: Owens will play in primarys for pro-C candidates, Paschall running for congress, Dems sound fractious on the issue of spending C dollars on transportation. Why waste time on a fabricated issue when there is so much else to talk about?

  4. I also am not a campaign worker nor a shill for either side, but I have a comment. It may be that Beauprez is losing some ground with activities related to C & D.

    However, in this campaign I keep coming back to the only poll I’ve seen comparing the two candidates. I admit I don’t have a link, but I recall pretty clearly that Beauprez outpolled Holtzman 47%-13% among potential Republican primary voters.

    I’m not saying the race is over. However, unless there are other polls out there Beauprez has to be the favorite right now.

  5. Coloradopols also continues to miss the big picture of the 7th CD race by only considering ‘serious’ candidates to be those that raised thousands of dollars.

    (I’m not going to start raising money until after the first of next year. In my opinion, this never-ending fundraising is one of the things that is ruining our political system by breeding more cynicism and disdain among average voters.)

    Remember, the 2002 race may have been determined by minor party candidates. I am running for the Green Party nomination for the 7th CD for 2006. Voters in this district are going to have a real choice between the same-old, same-old spend and tax and borrow Dems and Repubs — and a “principle before politcs” Green candidate.

    Take a look at my web site to see the REAL differences: http://www.DaveChandler.us

  6. Coloradopols also continues to miss the big picture of the 7th CD race by only considering ‘serious’ candidates to be those that raised thousands of dollars.

    What other metric would you use? In today’s political world you need money to pay for quality staff as well as media buys. If a candidate cannot raise funds that’s generally a good indication that the candidate is not a serious candidate who merits much time or consideration. If the candidate had any popular support fundraising wouldn’t be an issue.

    I understand that just about anyone can run for these seats, and I think that’s wonderful but the fact that a person is running does not by itself mean they should be regarded as serious candidates.

    I’m not going to start raising money until after the first of next year. In my opinion, this never-ending fundraising is one of the things that is ruining our political system by breeding more cynicism and disdain among average voters.

    That is admirable and I actually agree with you but unfortunately the reality of the situation is that you are only handcuffing yourself and making yourself even more irrelevant.

  7. I second Matt Colin’s comments.  If the sun rises in the East, this blog attributes it to the unstoppable momentum of Marc Holtzman.  A clue to the futility of Holtzman came last fall when the Larimer County Republicans overwhelmingly voted to oppose C and D — and overwhelmingly backed Beauprez.  It’s fine to come here from Pennsylvania and hire a staff of out-of-state gunslingers.  But that doesn’t give him the grassroots connections Bob earned as state chairman.  If C had died, Holtzman would have claimed victory.  It passes _ and he claims victory.  But in fact, he’s irreversibly alienated the business community and even many anti-C activists tell me they resent his trying to hijack the campaign for personal aggrandizement.  I

  8. To Mr. Chandler,

    As a Democrat, I would like to thank you and your fuzzy-headed Green comrades for helping to elect Bob Beauprez in 2002.  Either you are a  Republican operative or a Republican dupe.

    Please stay out of the race so you do not help to defeat the Democratic candidate in 2006.

  9. let’s not forget that your wonderful beauprez also lost republicans the majority in the state senate as chairman of our party. that was with money in the bank, to boot. perhaps had he actually used some leadership, we would have maintained majority and owned the re-districting process. don’t like the demographic breakdown of the 7th? guess what – one more state senator would have changed that entirely. so ya, thanks bob, for nothing.

  10. I think Owens is to blame for losing the state senate in 2000.  And again last year. And the the state house, CD3, the U.S. Senate seat, etc…  He’ll also be to blame for propping up Hickenlooper for Gov. just to get his win on Ref. C.

    Nevertheless, I think Bob is the guy to bring our fractured party back together, and so does the right (Schaffer) and left (Owens) wings of our party leaders.  In 2006, that is what Republicans are looking for- Unity.

  11. The way I look at it, the Dems siphoned off all our votes, which allowed Beauprez to win. Right now the Democratic Party is caving to the GOPs issues to look “moderate.” We have a war that Dems voted for, we have Colorado Dems easing restrictions on the mining industry that is destroying our land and a pro-life governor candidate. Now, you tell me who the progressive candidates are?

  12. Thanks for running, Dave. You’ll help us Republicans. We’ll be a very fractured party next year, but with fractures like the ones you create on the left, we’ll keep the 7th CD. Please encourage other Greens to run for other seats in the state. We need all the help we can get to win back the majority.

  13. I’ve said it a thousand times about the 2002, 7th CD race: Beauprez and Feeley were both pro-war candidates. I was the pro-peace, anti-war candidate.

    Smart, conscientious voters who saw through Bush’s lies deserved a candidate that agreed with them to vote for … that is what democracy is all about.

  14. Way to go, Dave.  Whenever I think the Norqists and other low-lifes are destroying the Grand Old Party, I take cheer from the fact that the ultra-left is just as destructive to the Democrats. Thanks again for electing George Bush in 2000, guys!

  15. Dave,

    Thanks for commenting here.  It’s very hard for the partisans from both sides to calm down and listen, but I read most of your website and I appreciate your perspective and wish you success.

    Neither the Democratic nor Republican Parties “own” any race.  It is comical to read the whining about how third-party candidates have siphoned off “their” votes.  Competition is healthy and American.  It’s Democratic.

    Sadly, politics is just another “root for the home team” endeavor to most of the commentors here, like watching the Broncos.  Your stand against the Iraq occupation was and is correct, but I’m sure you won’t be surprised to see that no one here will address that crucial point.

  16. voyageur,

    Two points: I think you were right initially when you said that “Norquists and other low-lifes are destroying the Grand Old Party.”  Republicans need to step back from the brink–and push Dobson over it–if they want to win again.

    Second, you thanked the “ultra-left” for electing George Bush in the year 2000.  Actually, George Bush was first elected President in the year 2004, despite some irregularities.  In the year 2000, the people of the United States elected Al Gore, and their will was thwarted by a midnight Supreme Court decision based on no legal precedent.

  17. Dave,

    It is folks like you that make people think, “I may not agree with the Republicans all of the time, but I cannot bring myself to vote for the Left Wing Extremists.”  You?re a big help to the Republican cause.

  18. Your “big lie,” I mean “big line” is worthless. Holtzman takes a huge fall after putting it all on the line for a “no” vote on C — and you nitwits elevate the guy.  Ridiculous.

  19. Dream on beaupreznit.  Without Nader, it wouldn’t have been close in Florida.  And don’t forget, Sanders Saul, the trial judge, found in favor of Bush.  The Florida Supreme Court, all 7 of whom were appointed by Democrats, split 4-3 in a desperate attempt to elect Gore.  The U.S. Supreme Court reversed them 7-2!  It was only on fashioning a remedy that they went 5-4.  Finally, the Florida legislature was in session and ready to award the electoral votes to Bush, which they had unquestioned constitutional authority to do, if the Florida Court coup hadn’t been overturned.  No we Republicans owe a lot to Dave Chandler, Ralph Nader and the other loopey leftie types.  Of course, you Ds owe a lot to Ross Perot for electing Clinton in 92 — a minority president in both his wins.

  21. Only a Republican dupe would think there was no difference between Feeley and Beauprez in 2002.

    Not only did the Green party elect Bob Beauprez, but they also elected Heather Wilson in New Mexico. 

    Let’s not forget that it was the Greens who also told us there was no difference between the parties in the 2004 presidential election.  Right.  And John Kerry would have nominated Judge Alito to the Supreme Court.

    It is always interesting to see the Republicans cozy up to the Greens and stand up for their right to run third party candidates — because Green votes are votes lost to Democratic candidates.  Remember the Washington state Green Party convention paid for by the Republicans!

  22. CD7DEM, you forgot mention that the GOP goes to a fair degree to discourage Libertarian candidates who could pull at their own votes.

    One concern I have with the Governors race next year is that with Ritter as the nominee, average voters who would normally side with Dems will notice that the Greens are running Betty Boop. Kinda tempting for an average joe to pick a gal who’s still got after all these years! (Whoo!)

  23. CD7DEM, you forgot mention that the GOP goes to a fair degree to discourage Libertarian candidates who could pull at their own votes.

    One concern I have with the Governors race next year is that with Ritter as the nominee, average voters who would normally side with Dems will notice that the Greens are running Betty Boop. Kinda tempting for an average joe to pick a gal who’s still got it after all these years! (Whoo!)

  25. Sssshhh, not so loud, Iron Mike.  We don’t want Dave to catch on.
    FOR THE RECORD: REPUBLICANS TREMBLE THAT THE MIGHTY GREEN MACHINE WILL CRUSH US.  IT’S OUR WORST NIGHTMARE.

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