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September 10, 2008 04:20 PM UTC

Hump Day Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

That is so sexist.

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  1. If the McCain camp is dumb enough to take the bait on this one, the pandora’s box of sexist comments made by candidates will have been opened.  This is a battle that Sen. McCain, who has publicly called his wife a “c*nt”, cannot possibley win.

      1. From The Real McCain by Cliff Schecter.

           

        Three reporters from Arizona, on the condition of anonymity, also let me in on another incident involving McCain’s intemperateness. In his 1992 Senate bid, McCain was joined on the campaign trail by his wife, Cindy, as well as campaign aide Doug Cole and consultant Wes Gullett. At one point, Cindy playfully twirled McCain’s hair and said, “You’re getting a little thin up there.” McCain’s face reddened, and he responded, “At least I don’t plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt.” McCain’s excuse was that it had been a long day.

         

  2. A few weeks of brilliant moves by the McCain campaign, they do something so dumb that I am amazed.

    Obama was obviously directing his scorn at McCain’s economic plan, rather than Governor Palin.

    I read Puddin saying that it’s a sexist remark whether it’s directed at a woman or not, and I agree, but that is not what the McCain camp is trying to spin.

    Did they not learn the lesson that the blogosphere learned two weeks ago? If you try to make a mountain out of something less than a mole hill, it will blow up in your face.

    The GOP is going to come out with a lipstick ad now? Wait till the Dems come out with a John McCain “C**t” and “bitch” ad. Both of McCain’s sexist comments were not taken out of context.

    1. Obama was clearly referencing Palin.  That is why the crowd laughed so loud.  They knew what/whom Obama was referring to.  And the OLD Fish is McCain.  Hello???

      Is there anybody in there?

      Anyway, his name calling is stooping so low.  I really thought he would be above all of that.  I was hoping he learned a few things after trashing Hillary so bad.

      I don’t know how many times women have to put up with the sexism from his campaign.

            1. Ken Salazar, Bill Ritter & John Hickenlooper, it is time to call the Unions. Its your choice to avert the divisive destruction. You have their cell numbers, but just in case…

              Ernie Duran: (303) 425-0897

              Colorado AFL-CIO: 303-433-2100

              John Sweeney at the National: (202) 637-5000

              Stern at SEIU: 202-730-7000

              Ritter’s Pro-Big Labor Play “Inane”

              The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/head… has taken Colorado Gov. Bill Ritter to task for firing the first shot in the battle between Big Labor and workers, calling his pro-union-bosses giveaway “inane.”

              Ritter’s weakness also has been exposed in his inability to avert a nuclear showdown on this fall’s ballot between business and labor leaders. Ritter provoked the business-sponsored right-to-work initiative with his inane executive order granting collective bargaining rights to state workers.

              That, in turn, provoked labor to run a handful of ballot measures that would be devastating to Colorado businesses. And Ritter, so far, has been powerless to stop it.

              Ritter needs to spend this summer somehow rebuilding the coalitions he frittered away with his labor giveaway. Otherwise, Coloradans can look forward to two more lackluster years while the state’s highways, bridges and universities crumble.

                1.    Any word on when the Court of Appeals will be issuing its decision?  Hopeful late in October.  A reminder of how the GOP is the party of both family values and tea room trade!

      2. This is such a line of utter B.S. you’re spewing.

        1) The only reason McCain picked Sarah Palin is because she’s female and far-right. To pick someone because she is female is every bit as sexist as to not pick someone because they are female.

        2) McCain has consistently in his life both treated women badly and spoken of them badly. While Obama has consistently treated them equally and fairly.

        You’re lying.

      3. Better to talk about a non-existent smear than to talk about how McSame wants to cut taxes for the rich, continue pandering to the oil companies and install as a possible future president someone who would take away a woman’s right to choose…

            1. So glad you agree on choice. No one should be forced to join the union or pay forced union dues. And before you go to Ernie Duran’s TPs …

              National Labor Relations Act, Section 7:

              RIGHTS OF EMPLOYEES

              Sec. 7. В§ 157. Employees shall have the right to self-organization, to form, join, or assist labor organizations, to bargain collectively through representatives of their own choosing, and to engage in other concerted activities for the purpose of collective bargaining or other mutual aid or protection, and shall also have the right to refrain from any or all such activities except to the extent that such right may be affected by an agreement requiring membership in a labor organization as a condition of employment as authorized in section 8(a)(3) section 158(a)(3) of this title.  

              Colorado’s government employees have the Right-to-Work, shouldn’t the rest of Colorado have these same rights?

              p.s. Big Ups to the Governor’s Right-to-Work policy

      5. You are a real piece of work, “Nancy L. Baldwin.”

        Please just tell us how you respond to McCain using the same phrase a half-dozen times. “Lipstick on a pig” has nothing to do with sexism. That’s so obvious to anyone with half a brain that the McCain camp has SERIOUSLY overplayed its hand on this latest attack.

        1. And it was clever of Obama to use it when he referenced Palin.  Because he knew if there was any outrage over it he could deny he meant anything by it.

          It was the same kind of strategy he used when he flipped Hillary Clinton the bird.  He is too clever by half.

          His audience knew what he meant in both cases.  What is silly is that you think people are so stupid you can cover for him.

          You know it was intentional.  And you are just showing how idiotic you are by trying to cover for it.

      1. …given that Obama’s fawning press coverage has lasted for about 18 months until two Fridays ago.  

        Palin is already viewed as a disaster… for Senator Obama.

        1. Looks like McCain played the female victim card a little too quickly – guess it was burning a hole in his pocket.  The lead balloon has begun to sink after a nice speech and convention bump.

          1. indication of this?

            More and more it looks like the idiotic wave of ridiculous attacks on Palin and her family is ending and the campaigns are tied in the polls.

            This is a horse race, gentlemen.

            1. Truer words have not been spoken – it is a horse race.  

              However, McCain wants to play the victim card over and over, and it’s getting old already.  The press went over her background and record with such scrutiny because they were totally taken off guard that she was chosen, and thus had no information on her, not because she is a woman.  She herself claims that type of whining does no good to women – that you just have to “work harder”.

              And now today we are told Obama is sexist because he used the adage lipstick on a pig.  Please.  

              The sexism card has obviously lost its’ sheen, but I personally hope they keep playing it.

              Q: How should we solve the healthcare crisis in America ?

              A: That’s a sexist question !

                1. I really do (no snark).  I wish this could be a battle of ideas, policies and the direction of our country at it’s most critical time but I am afraid we are on the path to something quite different now.

                  Who loses out ?  All of us.

                  1. That’s how Republicans win. “Be afraid, very afraid.”  That’s how they took 2004 – again – despite all logical evidence that choosing Bush was a bad choice.

                    I used to go to Dean and other Democratic meetings in the long buildup to the 2004.  Every time someone would get up and say, “We just need to get our message out there and we will win.” I wanted to bop them.  The average voter in America cannot discuss any policy or topic beyond what they heard on the last series of ads.  

                    The fact that Palin would try to reverse a hundred years of increasing women’s rights seems to be lost on those who think a woman, any woman is progress.  And she’s pretty, would Ferraro get so much face time?  

                  2. Couldn’t agree with you more.

                    I wish this could be a battle of ideas, policies …

                    When I see mainly Democrats and entrenched government oriented GOPers fail to debate the merits of extending the Right-to-Work to all Coloradans I understand clearly that our polarized nation if fraught with special interests.

                    p.s. Ewegen, I got the spell check download for this machine … I even gots ‘fraught’ right too cuz

                    1. Don’t you know it’s only a tool of organized labor to put more money in their pockets and put down hard working Americans?

                    3. A shill with spell check is still a shill.

                      And by the way, how’s that wide stance thing working out for you?

                    4. it’s not “polarized nation if fraught with”, it’s “polarized nation is fraught with”

                      So even with spell check, you still come across as not that eloquent. But you are #1 here with cut & paste.

                    5. Fire up your coders and sell that solution to the browser companies and search guys.

                      I value your passion.

        2. But it just seems to me that there’s no way coverage of her personally (her family, attacks on her, potential sexism of attacks on her, when she’ll give an interview, how much she’s helped McCain) doesn’t give way fairly soon to coverage of campaign issues.  Eventually she’ll be one of the four, and given the time-crunch of early voting, the winner next phase of this campaign after Palin-shock may well walk away with it.

          1. give specifics on his campaign issues yet.

            Hope.  Change.

            Those two words alone derailed Hillary Clinton, who I was pretty sure was going to win the White House.  Look how much money, experience, how many allies she had.  Look at the overall political climate.

            I think the Dem Congress laying such a giant fart in the faces of the voters hurt the establishment Clinton as much as anything.

            For God’s sake, she had 200 million or something going into the race, didn’t she?

            1. But I think that speaks to the same interesting point.  I think most people agree that adopting Change as the central theme early was probably the main reason senator Obama outlasted senator Clinton.

              This, of course, begs the question of whether McCain can avoid the same fate by trying to steal the theme right away after his convention.  Pre-Palin, the race was Change vs. Experience.  Now its Change vs. Change due solely to Mr. McCain’s actions.  Maybe he can get it done, maybe he can’t, but I don’t think nominating governor Palin alone will be enough to get across the finish line.

            2. Obama has been quite specific within formats of what he intends to do.  His website is full of proposals.  His acceptance speech was far more detailed that Mr. McBush’s.  

    2. really denigrates newspapers.

      If the McCain campaign is going to go shrieking its way to a fainting couch every time it can manufacture outrage over an illusory slight, this is going to be a long eight weeks.

        1. 09-06-08

          Yesterday Community Organizers International Trade Union Staff (COITUS) launched its official protest over Sarah Palin’s “demeaning, defactual rhetoric regarding our proud profession.”

          Spokesman and part-time presidential candidate David Burge stated, “When America’s communities need organizing, who will be there to organize them, if not us?

          Who will fight to make a difference by reaching out and working with communities to raise awareness of the importance of dealing with community issues by referring inquiries to outreach coordinators and making posters advertising interpretive dance and face-painting festivals while ensuring that each and every voter has the right to vote for their Democratic Party candidates who were once community organizers themselves?”

          “That’s right. COITUS will!”

    3. The pig is actually very clean. Pigs will pick one corner of their enclosure and defecate there, so they don’t get it on themselves. Cows , which I also raised, just poop where they stand.  Pigs only roll in mud to cool off and actually are among the most intelligent, affectionate and clean animals.

            1. One of the last things I did at UPI was covering the high school basketball tournaments.  When I came to the Post, they had me cover the legislature. I said I was qualified for the job, on the grounds that I was already used to covering juvenile games…

    4. What he should have said is “You can’t polish a turd.”  Then he couldn’t be accused of being sexist.  Even constipated grumpy old men have turds every week or so.

  6. I can not find it anywhere on the web, but last night on one of the cable news shows they quickly covered a story that Obama may be allowing 527s given the ridiculousness of the attacks against him.

    Can anyone confirm this? I am waiting for info from the campaign.

    I was happy to hear this.  As most of you know, I believe negative campaigning is effective.  And right now Obama needs other people to be ugly against the vicious attacks coming his way.  

    The high road is great, in theory. It didn’t work for McCain in 2000; he obviously learned his lesson well.

    1. They can’t actually talk to the 527s (and we Dems, unlike the Repubs, follow the law on that). But they have said they will no longer make any public statements saying don’t do it to them.

      And I think we need them – there are things that it doesn’t work for the campaign to say that an independent group can say.

    3. Obama may be allowing 527s given the ridiculousness of the attacks against him.

      Obama may be flip flopping on the 527s because he has been getting his ass handed to him in the polls.  Not because of any ‘ridiculous’ attacks.

      Please.  

      1. Barack tried to do this the honorable way, by running a campaign based on facts.

        McCain / Palin have brought it to lipstick and sex for kindergartners.

        So, let the games begin – I hope the 527s destroy Palin.  

        Niccolo Machiavelli  said,

        Men should be either treated generously or destroyed, because they take revenge for slight injuries – for heavy ones they cannot.

        Basically, destroy your enemy so that they may never rise again. Sarah Palin, been good knowing you.

    1. Gravel applauds McCain’s selection of Palin.

      Gravel says … the Trooper should have been fired, he shouldn’t be wearing the badge, he shouldn’t be a Trooper.

      Gravel says the Unions didn’t want to step up to the plate for Public Safety. Do the Unions need to wait for this Trooper to kill someone before they get rid of him?

      Gravel says Palin has more executive experience then McCain, Obama, and Biden have together.

      Gravel says The Democrat Party is the party of war.

      Gravel is for the peoples Right-to-Work too!

        1. although the JJ Abrams show is pretty good.

          I bet some of them probably will as many are, in fact, Republicans.  Either way, you’re right in that none of it will be too relevant barring a Florida scenario.

      2. .

        Ron Paul endorsed 4 3rd party candidates today, from the Greens, the Libertarians, the Ralph Nader party and the Constitution party.  

        All year, he’s been saying there’s no difference between Republicans and Democrats,and that the GOP needs to be turned on it’s ear.  

        But he must have figured at the last minute

        that endorsing the one candidate who stood with him on the issues, Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party,

        might have thrown several Western states,

        including Colorado,

        to Obama.  

        He wanted to hurt the GOP to shake it up,

        except he didn’t want to leave any bruises.

        A real profile in courage.  

        Ron Paul, I want my donation back.

        .  

  8. Quietly, Obama Campaign Calls In The Calvary

    09 Sep 2008 07:41 am

    There’s been a spurt of 527 activity on behalf of Sen. John McCain, but Barack Obama campaign has suddenly gone silent on the subject.

    That’s because, after of year of telling donors not to contribute to 527 groups, of encouraging strategists not to form them and of suggesting that outside messaging efforts would not be welcome in Obama’s Democratic Party, Obama’s strategists have changed their approach.

    An Obama adviser privy to the campaign’s internal thinking on the matter says that, with less than two months before the election and with the realization that Republicans have achieved financial parity with Democrats, they hope that Democratic allies — what another campaign aide termed “the cavalry” — with come to Obama’s aid.

    The Obama campaign can’t ask donors to form outside groups; it can only communicate, through the public and the media, with body language, tells and hints.

    The upshot: Obama’s campaign will no longer object to independent efforts that hammer John McCain, just as, in their mind, the McCain campaign has not objected to those efforts targeted at Obama. “I assume with their 527s stirring, some [Democratic] ones will as well,” another senior campaign official said.

    The money is there. The top two 527s — the Service Employees International Union and America Votes — are liberal in orientation. The SEIU fund has contributed to other 527 efforts, and America Votes has earmarked most of its money for what it calls the “largest grassroots voter mobilization” in history. The third largest 527 — American Solutions Winning the Future — belongs to Newt Gingrich, according to the Center for Responsive

    Politics. The AFL-CIO has budgeted more than $53 million for messaging and turnout efforts and has run a limited flight of ads featuring veterans criticizing McCain. But they’ve shied away from larger-scale campaigns in part because they believe — or believed — that the Obama campaign did not want them mounted.

    http://marcambinder.theatlanti…

    1. Keep selling this and Amendment 47 will pass.

      Even Union members know that their forced dues are used for radical politics of the union boss.

      According to Ernie Duran 50% of UFCW members want to leave the union … yet he uses forced union dues to promote anti-Colorado ballot measures that will kill the economy and their jobs.

      Logical? Nope, just the union boss mentality.

      Hoffa, Sweeney, Stern where are you?

      Senator Salazar, Mayor Hickenlooper, Governor Ritter where are you?

      The people want to know why government workers have the right-to-work, yet you oppose this same fundamental American right for the rest of Colorado.

  10. voting Obama.  Ug.  

    Obama also thinks we should teach sex education to children before they are even taught to read.

    I agree with his policies to disarm America – but his sexism and his perverse sense of education is appalling.

    3. Does anybody associated with the McCain Campaign sincerely beleive that these posts have any effect?  Anybody that might be influenced by this lame tactic is not going to be reading politcal blogs.

  11. I posted a diary on Obama’s sex ed policy.  This was recycyled from Alan Keys.

    Barack is trying to protect kids from sexual predators.  You know the ones that snatch, rape and kill 5 year olds.

    Go over the diary’s for the really low, low, no honor stance of John McCain.

      1. A new book by Cliff Schechter has the inside scoop on John McCain. And if you want to know why John McCain was called “McNasty” in high school, read this.

        At one point, Cindy playfully twirled McCain’s hair and said, “You’re getting a little thin up there.” McCain’s face reddened, and he responded, “At least I don’t plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt.” McCain’s excuse was that it had been a long day. If elected president of the United States, McCain would have many long days.

        This event was witnessed by 3 reporters and two aides of John McCain, Doug Cole and Wes Gullett.

          2. Because no woman would make a statement that dumb.

            And no guy who’s been in a serious relationship (straight or gay) would make a statement that dumb more than once – because boy would you learn.

            So I’m guessing “Nancy” is a 16 year old male who’s still hoping for his first serious girlfriend.

            And based on his writing, he’s not getting good grades in Language Arts.

          3. …what, you think we are idiots? You think a term of endearment in front of 5 others is private?

            You are an embarrasement to the people who tried to educate you.  

  14. http://rawstory.com/news/2008/…

    John Mc Cain has no respect for women.  He had a history of affairs with his first wife, dating Cindy while he was living with her, and even filing for a marriage license while still married.  He is a woman user, and is using Palin to get the pro-life, anti-choice, anti-gay vote.  Are you really all those things.  If so, how could you have ever supported Hillary?  

                  1. So are you saying that if MLK was alive today he’d be voting McCain/Palin?

                    Considering Strom Thurmond was a Democrat, I don’t blame MLK for being Republican.

  18. McCain is sexist, we know that.  Obama is Black, we know that.

    I am not voting for McCain if we found out he signed the Emancipation Proclamation.

    1. I have to ask you why you didn’t just do sjintheknow2 or something? At least then people wouldn’t get confused, thinking you were actually trying to make a coherent point.

        1. she disappeared about 5 minutes before you showed up. Your rhetoric is exactly the same too. At least cop to it, or tell me the name that you used to post under.

    2. You are right Nancy, Barack is a Black Activist sympathizer and misogynist.

      John McCain is an honorable man that loves his wife.  They have pet names for each other like Trollop and Cunt and he treats her with the utmost of respect, by asking her to participate in wet t-shirt contest at Sturgis and making sure she is at least three feet behind him to protect her from crazed people that may be on the prowl to steal her purse.

      He is an understanding rich man because he gets the common man and can feel their pain at the gas pump and in the mortgage fiscal.  This is evident every time he and Cindy fuel up the Lear Jet to travel between their 7 homes.

      And hell, if you can make $5 million a year, what kind of slacker are you?  You don’t derserve to be in the middle class and have healthcare or access to quality public schools – why is that his problem anyway?

      I just don’t know how I so mislead by Obama, I think I now see the light – I am voting for McCain.

      1. She IS sjintheknow. It’s exactly the same type of outlandish crap she used to spout. Same crap, different name.

        And if you want to refute that Nancy, feel free to tell me what your old screename was on Pols.

  20. Now listen – this has nothing to do with the campaign, it’s just freaking classic Joe Biden.

    He’s just a speech taking the form of a car crash and is as colorful as it gets.

  21. 1. Here’s something I TOTALLY agree with. I’m not surprised at all that it was Senator Obama writing the letter and NOT McSame:

    Mr. Obama, the Democratic presidential nominee, asked that any “inappropriate windfall payments” to the chief executives and senior managers of those agencies be voided, in a letter to Treasury Secretary Henry M. Paulson Jr. and the director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, the new regulator for Fannie and Freddie.

    Together, Daniel H. Mudd of Fannie Mae and Richard F. Syron of Freddie Mac are eligible for as much as $24 million in severance, retirement benefits and deferred compensation.

    “Under no circumstances should the executives of these institutions earn a windfall at a time when the U.S. Treasury has taken unprecedented steps to rescue these companies with taxpayer resources,” Mr. Obama wrote.

    2. Up late, I decided to catch up with the comments on todays CoPOls, and I have to tell you, I’m a little sick, and personally embarrassed.It’s fair to say I’ve seldom seen so little substance, and so much childish tit for tat from so many supposedly intelligent people. Turn off the TV folks and start to find some substance to discuss. You’ve all fallen into the trap of distraction that started with Palin’s nomination.

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