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August 18, 2005 08:00 AM UTC

Bush Approval Ratings in Colorado Poor Among Independents

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  • by: Colorado Pols

SurveyUSA is out with its newest batch of approval ratings for President Bush on a state-by-state basis, and while he isn’t losing ground in Colorado as fast as he is elsewhere, Bush’s numbers are still down eight percent in our state. In Colorado, 53% disapprove of Bush’s job as President, while only 45% approve of his efforts.

In Colorado, Bush is loved or loathed in equal percentages among Republicans and Democrats, respectively (83/16 approve/disapprove for Republicans versus 12/86 for Democrats). But among those who define themselves as ‘Independent,’ which is the all-important voting block in Colorado, 63% disapprove of his job as President while only 33% approve of him.

Bush is also polling poorly among Moderates and those in Metro Denver. Only 38% of ‘Moderates’ approve of Bush’s performance, with 61% saying they disapprove (that doesn’t sound gramatically correct, but we’ll just keep going). In Metro Denver – where the vast majority of Colorado voters live – 56% disapprove of Bush’s job while only 42% approve. Even in the rural parts of Colorado (loosely defined as NOT Metro Denver or Colorado Springs), Bush only gets 45% approval ratings compared to 50% negative ratings.

None of this indicates good news for Colorado Republicans in 2006. Mid-term elections can become a referendum on the job of the sitting President, and if Bush can’t turn his frowns upside down, Colorado Republican candidates are going to suffer.

(H/T to Colorado Luis for picking this up first).

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55 thoughts on “Bush Approval Ratings in Colorado Poor Among Independents

  1. Gosh – you guys are really showing your stripes today.

    Typically, I like this website and I love to read up on the latest scoop, but you guys are really turning me off with your liberal slant every day.

  2. I guess that means Bush won’t win Colorado for his third term. Oh well.

    Let’s be honest. Clinton’s numbers also took a large dive in Colorado in ’98. How did that affect the Dems? Let’s look. Udall won, DeGette won, Salazar won and the Senate D’s took control of the state Senate in 2000.

    The only race that may make a slight difference presently is in CD-7. Note to O’Donnell, don’t use photos of Bush in mailers to independents.

    Note to Democrats, please use Cindy Sheehan’s photo in your mailers. Be the change!

  3. I guess that means Bush won’t win Colorado for his third term. Oh well.

    Let’s be honest. Clinton’s numbers also took a large dive in Colorado in ’98. How did that affect the Dems? Let’s look. Udall won, DeGette won, Salazar won and the Senate D’s took control of the state Senate in 2000.

    The only race that may make a slight difference presently is in CD-7. Note to O’Donnell, don’t use photos of Bush in mailers to independents.

    Note to Democrats, please use Cindy Sheehan’s photo in your mailers. Be the change!

  4. Stupid Republicans.  The Democrats and Independants were telling you for almost 5 years now, that President Bush is no GOD, and certainly not a good leader.  Bush got C’s in college and was a Cheerleader.  You expect this man to be able to make good judgements on our country?  YOU MUST BE KIDDING. 

    Just wait until gasoline prices are double or triple what they are right now … then, ALL the REPUKES will be saying, “I didn’t vote for President Bush.”  HA HA HA … and, then, the Repukes will be saying, “WE NEED ALTERNATIVES FOR OUR CARS AND TRUCKS !!!” 

    Hilareous !!! 

    I told people about this Administration in 2000, but seemingly, none of the Conservatives would listen.  Stupid Republicans.

  5. Stupid Republicans.  The Democrats and Independants were telling you for almost 5 years now, that President Bush is no GOD, and certainly not a good leader.  Bush got C’s in college and was a Cheerleader.  You expect this man to be able to make good judgements on our country?  YOU MUST BE KIDDING. 

    Just wait until gasoline prices are double or triple what they are right now … then, ALL the REPUKES will be saying, “I didn’t vote for President Bush.”  HA HA HA … and, then, the Repukes will be saying, “WE NEED ALTERNATIVES FOR OUR CARS AND TRUCKS !!!” 

    Hilareous !!! 

    I told people about this Administration in 2000, but seemingly, none of the Conservatives would listen.  Stupid Republicans.

    And, what really makes me angry, is all that money we are spending in Iraq, when we could have spent it all on new alternatives … making us independent from our dependance on foriegn fuels… 

    WHERE DID REPUKES GET THEIR BRAINS ?

  6. Stupid Republicans.  The Democrats and Independants were telling you for almost 5 years now, that President Bush is no GOD, and certainly not a good leader.  Bush got C’s in college and was a Cheerleader.  You expect this man to be able to make good judgements on our country?  YOU MUST BE KIDDING. 

    Just wait until gasoline prices are double or triple what they are right now … then, ALL the REPUKES will be saying, “I didn’t vote for President Bush.”  HA HA HA … and, then, the Repukes will be saying, “WE NEED ALTERNATIVES FOR OUR CARS AND TRUCKS !!!” 

    Hilareous !!! 

    I told people about this Administration in 2000, but seemingly, none of the Conservatives would listen.  Stupid Republicans.

    And, what really makes me angry, is all that money we are spending in Iraq, when we could have spent it all on new alternatives … making us independent from our dependance on foriegn fuels… 

    WHERE DID REPUKES GET THEIR BRAINS ?

  7. Gosh – you guys are really showing your stripes today.

    Typically, I like this website and I love to read up on the latest scoop, but you guys are really turning me off with your liberal slant every day.

  8. I guess that means Bush won’t win Colorado for his third term. Oh well.

    Let’s be honest. Clinton’s numbers also took a large dive in Colorado in ’98. How did that affect the Dems? Let’s look. Udall won, DeGette won, Salazar won and the Senate D’s took control of the state Senate in 2000.

    The only race that may make a slight difference presently is in CD-7. Note to O’Donnell, don’t use photos of Bush in mailers to independents.

    Note to Democrats, please use Cindy Sheehan’s photo in your mailers. Be the change!

  9. Stupid Republicans.  The Democrats and Independants were telling you for almost 5 years now, that President Bush is no GOD, and certainly not a good leader.  Bush got C’s in college and was a Cheerleader.  You expect this man to be able to make good judgements on our country?  YOU MUST BE KIDDING. 

    Just wait until gasoline prices are double or triple what they are right now … then, ALL the REPUKES will be saying, “I didn’t vote for President Bush.”  HA HA HA … and, then, the Repukes will be saying, “WE NEED ALTERNATIVES FOR OUR CARS AND TRUCKS !!!” 

    Hilareous !!! 

    I told people about this Administration in 2000, but seemingly, none of the Conservatives would listen.  Stupid Republicans.

    And, what really makes me angry, is all that money we are spending in Iraq, when we could have spent it all on new alternatives … making us independent from our dependance on foriegn fuels… 

    WHERE DID REPUKES GET THEIR BRAINS ?

  10. Peter,

    I don’t really care if Bush was a cheerleader or a rocket scientist, nor what his grades in college were, or is IQ, or…  Ad hominem attacks don’t help the debate here.

    What I do care about is: Bush hasn’t been able to tell the truth to the public in just about anything he’s tried to do.  He hasn’t been “compassionate”, he hasn’t been able to justify the Iraq war, he wasn’t honest about the Medicare drug bill, he hasn’t been honest about his Clear Skies or Healthy forests programs.  He doesn’t tell us the truth about Army supplies, or people in his staff who might have illegally done irreparable damage to national security.  In short, I don’t like Bush because he’s a liar and a poor example of a Christian; he’s a bully and a con-artist – that’s it.

    If the GOP wants to learn the hard way, so be it.  The Democrats learned that way in ’94, I see no reason why the GOP – who wanted everything the Dems used to have anyway – shouldn’t have the same fall as the Dems, too.

  11. Phoenix –

    I completely agree with you.  However, it is much more serious than that Phoenix.  My greatist concern is the fact that we are pretty much stuck with him as President for another 3 years?  I don’t think we will surivive as a country for that period at the continued steap increase in fuel prices.  The impact on our economy will be so very severe.  The longer we stay in Iraq, the greater the cost.  I don’t like the idea of leaving Iraq … I don’t like the fact that Bush presents this picture that we must stay the course.  This is not true.  He is lying once again to the American people … we could easily leave, give a date to the Iraqis of our exit strategy.  We have removed Saddam from power, we have put in place a new government in Iraq.  We have no reason to stay.  The Iraqis must succeed in Democracy on their own … it is time to stop coddling them.  IF the result is civil war in Iraq, then so be it.  We cannot place our entire future of our country on this idea of spending every last cent of our own future for a nation that has oil?

    It is absolutely perposturous.  Bush is only presenting this idea that we cannot leave to protect his own policies as he rides his bicycle around his ranch in Crawford. 

    We can leave Iraq, with the removal of Saddam now … we can be very happy with that result.  A BIG MISTAKE is in continuing this effort for the oil in that country.  If we continue to place all our eggs in the one basket of running our economy on the future of increased oil production, then we are doomed for failure.

    We need to listen to Ms. Sheehan.  She is smarter than our current President.

  12. Can someone please explain something for me…

    If this war was supposedly about oil (hence all fo the No War for Oil signs I kept seeing), then why are gas prices at an all time high?  Shouldn’t we be getting something out of all of this?

    I’m not being a smart-a$$, I’m genuinely curious.

  13. I’ve said this before, and I’ll say it again: I’m with Mark Udall on this one…  The best solution to Iraq where it stands is not to have put ourselves where we are to begin with.  We are obligated by treaty to ensure Iraq’s stability before we leave, or to at least have an independent Iraq government’s sign-off that they’ll take care of the rest.  We never should have gone, and now that we’re there, it’s a toss-up as to whether we need a massive troop increase, a holding action until a pliable Iraqi government tells us to go, or a swift pull-out of a lost cause.

    Vietnam showed us the futility of an extended yet under-committed occupation.  Rumsfeld and Macnamarra are two sides of the same coin, though – we just haven’t learned (and sometimes I think the current Administration is trying to use Iraq to prove just how wrong pulling out of Vietnam was…).  We deserve a commitment, one way or the other; the public deserves to know that we are truly committed to doing the best by our soldiers, and aren’t splitting the difference – again.

  14. And, in addition, the pullout of Gaza is UNBELIEVEABLE.  I made this same suggestion early in Bush’s term.  But, this idea was roundly ignored.  The reason that Sharon is making this decision, is because of the mounting pressure from terrorists.  We have the same pressure here … if we don’t start protecting our borders, then I am very concerned about the eventual response that they will provide.  Clarke and others were absolutely correct, that we have created a greater number of terrorists in the process.  This strategy was ill advised.  But, our President obviously did not listen to his advisors. 

    Another great risk, is the fact that even if we have brought democracy to Iraq, does not insure that they will not breed terrorists afterwards.  Since when does our creation of an ill-democracy in Iraq mean that our gift of an improved economic result (capitalism) bring a reduced future of their use of terrorism?  I don’t equate democracy with reduced terror.  The answer is to leave their culture alone … realize that their Quran was very correct on an aggressor taking aim at their resources (which we have done) and concentrate on our own country. 

    When the world stops war and conflict for personal, political, economic gain, glory, safety, revenge, then we might find peace.  We have no business and no right to attack another country in response to Bin Laden. 

    At the moment, Bin Laden looks like a Prophet.  What in the world was Bush thinking ???

  15. “Oil” is a broad subject, Broke.  If it was truly about the US getting Iraqi oil, we have failed miserably.  But if the goal wasn’t so much to obtain oil, but rather to control oil, then we are at least a half-success already.

    The PNAC plan dovetails well with control of oil resources globally.  With Iraq’s strategic reserves and position in the MidEast, the US could ensure that oil was traded in US dollars and to some extent on US terms for the foreseeable future.  Iraq’s oil contracts, were the embargo to be lifted, were to France (ElfTotalFina) and China, and they were considering trading in Euros.  OPEC has also recently considered a switch to Euro-valued oil, and that is Bad for the US.

    My feeling is that the whole invasion was screwed by Rumsfeld’s insistence on a lighter force; had he listened to the Army War College, Gen. Shinseki, CENTCOM, and others, the PNAC plan might have had a (snowball’s) chance of working.  Several of the PNAC fellows have expressed similar disgust at the prosecution of the war, so I don’t think I’m too far off there.  The result is that we don’t have control of Iraqi oil, but neither does anyone else; we’ve tied ourselves up so effectively that we have probably diminished our profile with OPEC, and that’s not where PNAC wanted to be…

  16. Peter: worse, bin Laden actually predicted he’d escape, so he really does look like a Prophet.

    OTOH, I don’t think Sharon pulled out because of terrorists; he pulled out because it wasn’t really that useful to be there, and because he had a “population” problem looming: in another couple of years, “greater” Israel, including the Occupied Territories, would have been majority Palestinian, leading to charges of Apartheid-style rule.

  17. Broke –

    We are paying the price for our own leadership not following what the Bible says.  Attacking and killing people for gain will only come back and bite you in the *&^. 

    The truth of the matter in the Middle East, is the fact that immediately after WWI, the Balfour Accord and White Paper designed a “Leasehold” for the Holyland.  Great Britain gave a small amount of land to the Jewish people (GB gained that land after WWI had ended).  The worldwide leaders sat down and decided to try this idea of allowing the Jewish people some land, for their right of worship in the Holyland. 

    The MISTAKE occured when radical Russian Jews built a runway in Israel, sending in weapons to the Holyland.  The Orthodox Jews then started taking more and more land in the process.  This made the Muslim world very very angry … and, the dispute over THE LAND began again. 

    All of this has to do with LAND and the OIL … religious and resources.  Centuries ago, Muslims and Jews lived side by side as friends, but today that trust was broken and we have decided to protect Israel (mostly). 

    Phew, now the situation is much worse, because we have rattled the region with war … shaking the pillars, opening the box of worms, disturbing the nest of hornets. 

    We were wrong in what we have done.  It is pretty easy to realize it when you read the Bible. 

    Killing people makes people angry … taking land and bringing in weapons makes people angry … attacking a country for oil makes people angry. 

    What a mess.

  18. Peter:
    “I have made very few negative comments about any of the other candidates,” is what you said in a post yesterday. Alongside that and other similar comments, you kept referring to 100-1 odds.

    Today, are you ready to admit the world that you are, in fact, Herb Rubenstein?

    P.S: You smell like a hot dumpster.

  19. Phoenix –

    If you truly want to blame someone for this mess, it is not our current President.  The problem can be blamed in my opinion on the Russian’s who started selling weapons to Israel in the first place.  The world is unfortunately very good at coming up with better and more efficent ways to kill people.  Then, we sell these weapons as a profit … another the people who are concerned and fear what these weapons will do, buy weapons from someone else.  The system of making money in killing people and weapons has been going on since Jesus came and asked people to stop it all. 

    The ANSWER is very simple … follow what Jesus said.  Stop selling weapons … attempting to kill innocent people. 

    We are ABSOLUTELY GUILTY, yes our (AMERICA) is unjustified and WRONG to attack IRAQ. 

    Daaaaaaaa … even a blind man could tell you this very simple reality …

  20. I will admit this fact.  My cousin died in a concentration camp in Germany during WWII.  I have approx. 1/8 of my blood as Jewish.  I also have English, Welsh, German, Italian, Spanish, Irish and probably a lot more.  My family heritage were decendants from the Mayflower.  I am very American. 

    My question is: “What difference does it make that I am from any specific bloodline, national heritage, or religious culture?”  We all start out the same … seeking to find happiness.  You can’t find happiness from killing people …

    We need to start Loving people from where ever they are from … Jesus would do the same thing …

    Jesus loved everyone … it did not matter if they were Chinese, Muslim, Christian or Jewish …

    It is so very simple, in my opinion.

  21. So this is the Democrat string today I see.
    Who cares about polls. Bush is a leader not a worry-wart checking the mirror to make sure he is popular every five minutes. You all can whine and cry all you want but we need to finish the job in Iraq. It is pulling the terrorists in so we can kill them there instead of in New York City.
    I feel for the kids that die over there, I’d be there with them if I wasnt so old and fat. But they signed up to be in the military, just like I did under President Reagan’s watch. I drank a lot of beer in Germany and worried about the Russians coming through the Fulda Gap and starting what we used to call World War III. These kids have a fight on their hands, but it is still worth it. They are drawing the terrorists fire in Iraq, instead of doing it here in America.

  22. Is that the “noble cause”, Richard?

    1) Attacking a nonthreatening country to lure terrorists away from home is a despicable justification for war.  That would be like invading Switzerland to draw off the Germans in WWII.  Disgusting.

    2) Even if that was the reason, it isn’t working.  The war in Iraq is doing little to nothing to draw terrorists away from the rest of the world; the number of terrorist attacks around the world has risen drastically since the Iraq invasion, and many of the Iraqi terrorists would have had nothing to do with attacking the U.S. previously.  We haven’t had any attacks here, but I’d be naive to think that it was Iraq that caused it: much more likely that Al Qaeda is still working on their own schedule as always.  We can expect something when they’re ready, not when we’re looking for it.

    I think you drank too much beer; it’s clouded your ethical judgement.

  23. Peter,

    What bible version are you reading. Nowhere on mine can I find the passage “Attacking and killing people for gain will only come back and bite you in the *&^.”
    Must be the New Revised Black Helicopter Version.

  24. Peter,

    I’m gonna let you in on a little secret: I don’t care who you are related to, where you are from, or how many words per minute you can type.

    What I do care about is that you are the vomiting drunk on this awesome roller-disco of a blog. You rant on and on like some egomaniacal meth-head, and it just drives me nuts. If you are so  adamant about posting 5,000 words a day and so sure people love reading it, then start your own blog.

    Yes, we are all free to speak our minds, but if this were a town hall meeting, you would be the jackass that brought a bullhorn in order to make sure his opinion was heard.

    If you have something truly worthwhile to add to the conversation, feel free, but keep it within reason.

    If you keep composing asinine epics on this site, I’m going to keep telling you how much you stink. And no, I’m not the only person around here who feels this way.

  25. Peter,
    I’m a NASCAR redneck with an I.Q. no higher than a midget’s ass and can keep my postings short. Come on bubba, get on game. Please excercise respect. For yourself and for community.

  26. Ugh:  I don’t know if you realize this, but Colorado Pols is not a partisan website.  Meaning that they will print things that Liberals/Democrats don’t like to see or hear and that they will also print things that Conservatives/Republicans don’t like to hear.  Why don’t you come to that realization and quit whining because they said something about Bush that you don’t like?  Get over it.

  27. Phoenix Rising – Did you really refer to Saddam Hussain era Iraq as “non-threathening”? Dude pull your head out and read a newspaper once in a while! The biggest element of instability in the Middle East right now is Iran… Why? Becuase before them it was Iraq. Saddam was a menace, the DEM party leaders were asking Bush to do something about him in 2001 before Osama launched the planes.

    Richard might be a bit of a whackjob (but it sounds like he is a GOP whackjob, so he’s okay by us), but get real dude. The attacks have ended here in the US… Good point, is it because the economy is getting better? They don’t have gas money? They lost their map maybe? It’s because they are busy dude and England is closer.

    And don’t forget “Vote for Angie! The leader for the Bad Econonmy! She has bankrupcies for everyone!”

  28. Sheehan lost all credibility with me when she opened her mouth about Israel pulling out of Gaza.  What does her sons death have to do with the internal politics of a soveriegn nation which was not even involved in the war on a military level?  She’s a liberal media puppet, and her son is probably spinning in his grave.

  29. Saddam Hussein was by no means the largest threat in the region – listen to Rice or Powell in 2000/2001 if you don’t believe me; Saddam was contained and not a threat.  Your supposed DEM leaders were wrong if they were asking for action; GHW Bush had it right when he just left Saddam in 1991.  Syria and Iran were about tied on the instability export business before our invasion; Iraq was a distant third or maybe even fifth.

    Iran has become the largest threat because we removed their one containment system: Iraq’s stable Baathist government.  They could have gone either way – towards democracy or towards fundamentalism.  In their last election, our stupid invasion and their inclusion in the “Axis of Evil” pushed them the wrong way.  Now we have yet another nation pushing for nuclear weapons backed by anti-American rhetoric.

    It took 8 years for Al Qaeda to plan an attack in the US after the first WTC bombing – what makes you think it will be any different this time?  Wake up and smell the reality.

  30. Casey Sheehan fully understood and supported his Mom’s political leanings.  Does Cindy Sheehan have no right to talk about other world issues now that she’s trying to hold a vigil outside Bush’s ranch?  She’s tried to get the talk show hosts to stop goading her into answering questions, but when they ask, is it unfair for her to answer?

    Give me a break.

    My wife just IM’d me: “when we were singing America The Beautiful last night, I was looking up at the American Flag; it’s the first time I’ve felt proud to be an American in a while…”.  America is not “my country, right or wrong; when right to keep right; when wrong, to support anyway…” – we’re not doing an American thing in Iraq, and we’re not doing an American thing in trying to shield bad decisions and their makers from scrutiny and correction…

  31. Well, props to Peter and Phoenix Rising and other nonsense attack dealers.  I used to like this site, used to appreciate its real dialogue of the issues and politics of my state — lately, its been host to the latest rant, in an atmosphere of disrespect.

    This site has lost it, which is why I’ll never waste my time with it again.  shame, it was such a good thing.

  32. “…I was just so proud to be an American. Then when we burned the flag in a 1st Amendment exercise, the guys started passing around the really good weed and someone started blasting Joplin on the sound system. I felt like it was 1972!”

  33. I thought I’d already disclosed my sexual orientation when I chided Peter for sounding too loving of me the other week 😉

    I’d love to know what makes me an “attack dealer”; no-one’s really responded to my points on the Administration – which I find to be nothing more than the sad truth – and the only person I’ve smacked around at all for having such a ridiculous response was Richard (and Peter, a bit…).  On other threads, I’ve spent most of my day defending Cindy Sheehan (who y’all on the other side of the debate will be happy to know is leaving to tend to her mother, who had a stroke today…), and if that was offensive, it was only in indignation for the lack of respect you are giving a peaceful protester.  If you don’t like the conversation, middle, please feel free to chime in and change it; I’d be quite happy debating things like the effect Bush’s poor ratings will have in ’06.

  34. In 1972 the hard-core protestors were anti-troop; last night we had a tribute from the Colorado Veterans for America, sang the Marine Corps Hymn, and America The Beautiful.  I don’t think the anti-war crowd will make the sad mistake of the Vietnam war ever again; those are our relatives and friends over there, and the chain of command guides their actions.  Problems tend to start at the top, not the bottom; we are focused on that this time…

    America is our country, too; it’s not just for supporters of President Bush and his entourage.  In the same way, Christianity is my religion, too, and I have just as much authority to claim the Gospels define my religion as Phelps, SpongeDob, and Robertson have to say that Leviticus defines it.  The radical right have had their say for long enough; time for the rest of us to regain our voices.

  35. Okay fine ditto-republican-heads … I will define my thought for you more clearly and precise.  I don’t like your agenda … I don’t appreciate your hatred.  I don’t find your support of war and killing as justified when attacking Switzerland in response to Nazi hatred.  President Bush has his dispictable mind in thoughts of glory (alikened to Alexander the Great and the Crusades).  This is objectionable, certainly because of his “Shaking of the Pillars in the Holyland” has now caused thousands of jewish people to vacate the Gaza Strip.  President Bush likes to make the fire hotter and hotter … to succeed at covering up his mistakes along the way …. and, then the hipocritical result becomes factual, when he lies and forces his agenda on the majority of this country that today is against this war.  Like it or not, the Republicans are not Christian, because Jesus Christ would not want such a war plan.  Indeed, if you are a Christian, as I am, then go look in mirror, grab your weapon, and start attacking your neighbor for the oil needed for your car in your driveway.  If you think that is harsh, then speak to the people in the Middle East, including those in Israel, who are caught in the middle of a conflict that grew and grew because of the military complex that this country and other have been selling since the beginning of the Industrial age. 

    There is never an excuse for killing … never will be.  PERIOD.

    “Thou Shalt Not Kill.”  Christians, Muslims and the Jews !!!  Start the change … become the majority, become Democratic, offering peace through tolerance and not divide …

  36. I am frankly sick and tired of hearing the loss of our men and women everyday.  It was all so very unnecessary.  Bush loves himself way way too much !!!!!!!!!!!

  37. Patrick –

    WRONG … BOY are you WRONG.  The Government is a reflection of the voice of the people through Representatives that we elect.  Only Congress can make changes, and not the President.  Every single person who takes the oath of office is required to say, that they will guard and protect the US Constitution.  What you are saying is essentially what the Russians would really like …

    Are you from Russia or China?

  38. Phoenix: That was last year’s Dem message and the rest of the world saw right through it for it’s insincerity. This is not George Bush’s country but a majority of Americans elected him to be our President. Last year you and other radical liberals threw everything you had at trying to defeat the President and you lost. You just plain lost. So that says a majority of Americans strongly disagree with you. So here’s a tip: drop the moral high road message. It just doesn’t fit with your role as the minority party in America right now.

  39. Defero,

    John Kerry, IMNSHO, was one of three reasons the Dems lost the Presidential contest last year; he failed to put forward a focused message, and he drove away countless Veterans and others who were disgusted with Bush, but unable to forgive Kerry for his role as an anti-war activist.  My personal feeling is that Kerry should have sued the Swift Boat Veterans for libel and slander – he had the documentation and other testimony to back it up…

    The other two reasons were: (1) gay marriage amendments, which were a shrewd tactic to get out the GOP winger base, and (2) support of Bush as a war President.

    The poll numbers are only 6-9 points different than they were back in 2004, true enough; but the underlying reasons for that change are immense.  In 2004, a majority still supported the war; in 2004, a majority still thought Bush was mostly honest.  The recent polls show an intense dislike of the war, and a newfound distrust of Bush and his policies.  Among surveyed groups, only Republicans still show any confidence that the Presidents justifications for the war were well-founded (yes, there’s still a group of you out there who think that Iraq had WMD and ties to Al Qaeda…).  Those are the differences, and they may become important in ’06.

  40. When I first found his web site I thought I was entering a place where the issues of Colorado and the country would be debated with more intellegence. I have found myself less interested in coming to read the comments because it seems it is turning into a moveon.org site. I have a feeling I may not be the only one that feels he must move on. I know there are better thoughts out there than most of the dems are posting. Repukes?? Come on…

  41. Rich – what would you like from me?

    I try to make my actual news posts factual and thought-provoking.  Perhaps I should just let outright deception and misinformation lie around unanswered?  I will not be guilty of remaining silent.

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