UPDATE #2: Don’t hold your breath:
Waiting to hear back from @RepMikeCoffman on the tax plan & its impact on the nat debt. This is from his campaign website. #copolitics pic.twitter.com/4rHp0iS8pq
— Kara Mason (@karanormal) November 2, 2017
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UPDATE: The National Association of Home Builders joins the chorus against the House GOP’s tax bill in a strongly-worded statement today:
“The House Republican tax reform plan abandons middle-class taxpayers in favor of high-income Americans and wealthy corporations. The bill eviscerates existing housing tax benefits by drastically reducing the number of home owners who can take advantage of mortgage interest and property tax incentives.
“And capping mortgage interest at $500,000 for new home purchases means that home buyers in expensive markets will effectively lose this housing tax benefit moving forward.
“The House leadership killed a cost-effective plan proposed by NAHB that Ways and Means Committee leaders agreed to include in the legislation. It would provide a robust homeownership tax credit that would have helped up to 37 million additional home owners who do not currently itemize. Most of them are low- and moderate-income home owners.
“Meanwhile, as corporations receive a major tax cut, small businesses, which generate the lion’s share of job growth, get limited relief.
“The bottom line: Congress is ignoring the needs of America’s working-class families and small businesses.
“And by undermining the nation’s longstanding support for homeownership and threatening to lower the value of the largest asset held by most American families, this tax reform plan will put millions of home owners at risk.”
We’ll be very curious to see how Colorado’s most politically-connected homebuilder, Republican Larry Mizel, responds. What appears to be a solid wall of resistance to this bill from the homebuilding and real estate industries could put Colorado Republicans in an interesting predicament.
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Politico reporting on the release today of details from the House’s tax reform legislation, which would make sweeping changes to the tax code while blowing an estimated $1.5 trillion-with-a-t hole in the budget for future Congresses to reckon with:
House Republican leaders unveiled a tax plan Thursday that would make sweeping changes in corporate and individual taxes, including deep tax cuts, limits to the mortgage interest deduction and bigger family tax credits.
It also includes provisions that are likely to stoke controversy and fierce lobbying, including limiting the deduction of mortgage interest for newly purchased homes up to $500,000, according to a summary…
The unveiling of the legislation kicks off what is likely to be a grueling slog to get legislation to Trump by the end of the year.
The proposal calls for the biggest rewrite of the code in a generation. Its cuts in tax rates on businesses and most individuals will come in exchange for killing scores of narrowly drawn tax breaks.
Exactly who would lose in the proposal, and possibly have to pay higher taxes, has been a closely held secret, and many lawmakers will surely be surprised at the scope of changes required to make the numbers behind the plan work.
The decision to limit mortgage interest deductions on new home purchases to $500,000 isn’t a problem in states where property values have not risen that far for most homeowners. Unfortunately that does not include the state of Colorado, the location of one of the nation’s hottest housing markets in the Denver area–where the median home sale price almost hit $500,000 back in May. That’s why the National Association of Realtors is sounding the alarm over this provision of the bill:
Eliminating or nullifying the tax incentives for homeownership puts home values and middle class homeowners at risk, and from a cursory examination this legislation appears to do just that.
There’s a telling correlation between lower property values and politically red states that bears further discussion in any debate over limiting the mortgage interest deduction–especially for Republicans in prosperous swing states like Colorado. It makes the question of supporting this tax reform bill much dicier for Rep. Mike Coffman, who represents rapidly-developing areas of the east Denver metro area that could be profoundly impacted by throttling back the mortgage interest deduction.
In Colorado, watch for Coffman to be the focus of intense lobbying from both sides. Coffman’s vote in favor of the budget proposal that set up passage of the tax reform bill doesn’t bode well, but as the debate on the tax bill proceeds and unpleasant details are publicized Coffman could certainly be peeled off if the potential damage to his re-election prospects becomes great enough. In fact, we’d consider Coffman a bellwether for success or failure of the entire effort, since it’s unlikely his vote can be spared. Coffman’s “defection” would likely only come in the event that GOP leadership accepts failure and allows him a face-saving out.
By all accounts passage of this bill is not assured, with objectionable details for left and right alike that have yet to be overcome to the satisfaction of a majority. For swing-state Republicans like Coffman, the question is whether the Republican Party’s failure to pass this tax reform bill would be a failure for their own political careers–or whether passing it would hurt them more in the long run.
It’s a question Mike Coffman had better answer correctly.
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Home prices are too high! Coffman will help fix that by fucking up the market.
Capping the deduction at $500,000 is reasonable. Even on a $600,000 home, you'd get the first half million deduction. Don't ever think the real estate lobby has ordinary family's interests at heart.
In a way, I’m actually surprised here — the real estate lobby must have scared hell out of these clowns?!?
Fuck that V. Why should I pay a dime more so Barron Trump can inherit Daddy's billions tax free?
Maybe it's time to sell this big house because free markets.
I’d have to see the details, and of course there are probably purposely few of those, but “on newly purchased homes” seems to indicate the MID change wouldn’t apply to current owners. Although, obviously, this could have future market price implications when you do go to sell . . .
PS. I wouldn’t be surprised to find that TwoScoops has already sold off Barron’s inheritance to Putin?
You're right about the deduction on currently owned homes. The bill also caps property tax deductions at 10k, obviously not a problem for me yet. The "free market" wants me out of this house in general. I'm not quite ready for the nursing home yet. 🙂
But anybody who buys after the bill, oh well. I read somewhere that all housing is getting so unaffordable that soon we’ll all be captive in the one we own.
Have you ever considered converting your existing home into a duplex, and then selling off the one-half to your in-laws??
Could help both with the tax implications, as well as giving you an incentive to get out more often? . . .
Stay the course Congressman. Some day they will thank you.
Trump, The Kochs, etc.
Are you trolling me? 🙂
Wow nutlid. You're not quite as dumb as I thought. Close. But I never thought you had the capacity to realize R & R was trolling you.
Looking forward to doing a mock-up return based on my circumstances. As I skim headlines, this doesn't seem to do much to me. Only one I see immediately would be if I were to try to sell my house (with its stepped up value) under this "plan", there would be fewer people wanting to buy.
Anything that hurts the housing market hurts the economy. It'll hurt you too, watch.
Actually, an overpriced housing bubbleis athreat to asolid economy. Don't even think of buying a home in california unless you're rich.
Wages need to start rising to match or slightly exceed inflation to offset the housing price appreciation.
If Trump succeeds in halting immigration, that might happen. Unfortunately, if, simultaneously, he starts a trade war, we'll also have an inflationary spiral recession.
The money put back into American pockets is worth it. We'll cut taxes whether you like it or not, and Americans will thrive without socialism whether you like it or not. Too bad!
You seem to prefer feudalism — you do realize you're one of the peasants, right?
Shemp, are you sure you're not a North Korean bureaucrat?
'cuz I gotta tell ya, you sound an awful lot like a North Korean bureaucrat.
The bulk of the money from any tax cuts will go into the pockets of those in the 1%. Moderatus really needs to do some better research.
To Moldy, research is what he does when he can't find his TV remote once again
He should probably start by looking under the Kleenex box?
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Fluffy,
Have you ever pondered the day after Grammy kicks off, and you have to enter the “for reals” housing market?
Which do you think will provide more economic benefit to Americans and our free markets?
a) Your purchase of one new $40,000,000 basement (house attached)?
or
b) Your purchase of 80 new $500,000 basements (houses attached)?
Show your work, please, Nutlid . . .
As far as I can tell, with all the changes, this is a wash to a slight tax hike for me. I can afford it, but when it's sold as a tax cut, and it is for people making twice as much as me, billionaire scions, and corporations sitting on mountains of cash, it's hard to stomache.
Are you calculating what you will lose due to cuts in government programs?
In order to deal with the budget deficit, the Republicans are going after the social insurance programs: Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Obamacare.
Or do you think that state governments will raise taxes to fill in where the Feds are cutting?
1). As a CPA. I think I can purchase that new BMW since nothing sounds like "simplification" to me. And, no, reducing the number of tax brackets does not count as simplification.
2). I don't see how this plan can possibly be revenue neutral. The pay fors are tiny (MID limitation) and mean spirited (no adoption credit, no medical deduction, no business credit for finding cures for rare diseases — Really??) The giveaways are huge — double standard deduction, lower corporate rates, eliminate AMT, eliminate estate tax, keep retirement contribution limits, etc. I'm sure the bulk of the benefits will go to the super rich
This will not pass. I guess I won't get that BMW after all.
The plan was never intended to be revenue neutral. The initial outline eyeballed around $5 trillion in cuts. They've kinda, sorta got that reeled back down to $1.5 trillion, but the cash flush corporations and uber-wealthy still make out like bandits.
I don't think Mike can count on receiving another special dispensation from Paul Ryan to vote no on this one.
Those are all reserved for the Repubs from NY, NJ and CA.