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September 16, 2009 03:48 PM UTC

Wednesday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“Delusion arises from anger. The mind is bewildered by delusion. Reasoning is destroyed when the mind is bewildered. One falls down when reasoning is destroyed.”

–Bhagavad Gita

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  1. Always check the contents of an e-mail before you click send.

    The staff of recently-appointed Sen. Michael Bennet (D-Colo.) is learning that lesson the hard way, after the senator’s deputy press secretary accidentally sent out revealing private correspondence in an e-mail blasted to the entire press list.

    “I’ve been pushing for press since this broke — we just needed him to talk to the FBI, which I know has been tough. I think he still needs to call these reporters – or we need to get a statement out – as soon as he talks to the FBI,” said Deirdre Murphy, Bennet’s communication director.

    Murphy also suggested that there’s a perception out there that Colorado’s senior senator, Mark Udall, is more on top of things than Bennet on a major issue of concern to the state’s voters.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/…

    1. 1. Why should Senator Bennet talk to the FBI and whats the subject?

      2. What issue is Udall more on top on that’s a major concern to the state’s voters … could it be fiscal responsibility?

      3. Why won’t SSG_Dan address the rape-ACORN-murder-Beck-prostitution allegations? Sorry this has nothing to do with Senator Bennet, but Dan is avoiding the facts and the tapes reveal the evidence.

      1. I thought that was just a rumor. You’re saying now that Glenn Beck raped and murdered a prostitute in 1990? Why won’t he deny it? Why is he avoiding the FACTS?

        1. This latest tape would be interesting, but it exposes another ACORN manager.  This one admitts to killing her husband and then she gives an ACORN referral to go down the block to coordinate child & illegal immigrant prostitution with some ACORN street activist.

          Why the tape wasn’t turned over to the authorities is questionable … who knows maybe it was?

          1. I thought Stewart’s treatment of this was good.  ACORN staff’s behavior is disturbing, but I don’t take anything coming from Glenn Beck at face value.  

          2. Aside from the fact that she just comes across as a babbling fool, I saw something last night that there is no dead husband.

            The whole thing is just ugly. These two “investigators” making it sound like this was the case at every Acorn office and Acorn trying to play like they have no internal problems. Clearly Acorn doesn’t have the highest of hiring standards and I don’t really want them having billions of taxpayer dollars to further their partisan agenda but I think these tapes show more incompetence and low quality people than they do a criminal organization. It is kind of entertaining though to watch them try to defend and then go on the counter attack.

      2. …but again, why bother following up on something I said?

        Yes, these Heritage Foundation-trained plants went to 5 ACORN Offices before they got the answer they wanted. And not revealed on BIgGovernment.com (registered in 2003, before either reporter was out of school) was the numerous times other ACORN staffers called the cops on these plants.

        It’s shame that these two eager “useful idiots” won’t be able to cash in on their newfound fame – it’s against the law to secretly videotape anyone in Maryland, so by posting these videos, they’ve guaranteed some jail times for themselves.

        So why do you keep reposting criminal activity?  

        1. I would think you’d support the exposure of criminal activity.

          Why do you support child postitution and tax evasion?

          Why are you trying to silence whistleblowers?

          1. REAL reporters (of which I have worked with for many years) would report both the dirtbags who told them to do illegal stuff, as well as report on how other staffers told them NO and tried to call the cops on them.

            Instead, they kept going until they got the sound bites they needed, and then only reported those. To the friendly Conservative Media.

            And they did it all illegally. ’nuff said.

            1. When that fake Vet was revealed your organization self reported, came clean and did the right thing.

              You got great respect for that.  ACORN should do the same, if they won’t it’s because they are corrupt to the core (unlike you).

                2. ummmmmmmmmm? That’s over $12,000,000/ACORN Employee

                  $8.5 BILLION, that’s 3X the cash they burned for cash for clunkers.

                  p.s. your contribution to CFC was $10/citizen.

                    2. Imagine how scandalous it could get!

                      $5 billion = $7,500,000/employee

                      $50 billion = $75,000,000/employee

                      $500 billion = $750,000,000/employee

                      The audacity!

    2. There’s this little nugget in the email:

      Bummed we missed this – I was under the impression we were being asked not to talk – looks like everyone else did and will lieky get the press. Lesson learned for next time

      In other words they did what they thought the FBI wanted rather than leak for their political advantage. That’s commendable.

    3. This whole exchange is funny.  Both the fact that they attached it to a press advisory and the content of the e-mails they attached. Here is the whole post from Mike Allen’s column:

      SCOOP – FLACK BLASTS STAFF MUSING — POLITICO’s Josh Kraushaar: ‘The staff of recently-appointed Sen. Michael Bennet (D-Colo.) is learning that lesson the hard way, after the senator’s deputy press secretary accidentally sent out revealing private correspondence in an e-mail blasted to the entire press list. At the top of the e-mail was a broad statement that Bennet was keeping track of an ongoing FBI investigation of a Denver man suspected of Al Qaeda ties. But under the statement is a chain of e-mails showing that the senator’s communication director is concerned that Bennet has been lackadaisical with his press outreach. ‘I’ve been pushing for press since this broke — we just needed him to talk to the FBI, which I know has been tough. I think he still needs to call these reporters – or we need to get a statement out – as soon as he talks to the FBI,’ said Deirdre Murphy, Bennet’s communication director. Murphy also suggested that there’s a perception out there that Colorado’s senior senator, Mark Udall, is more on top of things than Bennet on a major issue of concern to the state’s voters. ‘I don’t think it’s too late – people are carefully watching this and Udall just put something out. Jeff, correct me if I’m wrong but right now the [Denver Post] thinks that mfb hasn’t received a briefing and I think we need to make clear that we are as much in the loop on this as Udall.’

  2. The leader of the Tea Party Express on CNN discounts racism in his movement, except for the party 10 seconds later where he calls Barack Obama “an Indonesian Muslim turned welfare thug and a racist in chief.” And then the tinfoil hat comes out:

    1. Did she do one of those swap chambers because of term limits gigs, or run for the House after losing a statewide race, which I seem to recall she had a few years back.  GOPers like your mom may be the only reason I remain Republican, other than the fact that Democrats are trying to establish a Satanist theocracy;-)  

      1. She also ran for U.S. Senate against Akaka in ’06 where she got 40% which is damn good for a Republican in Hawaii by any measure – and amazing for a 3 month race (she replaced the elected primary candidate who had a heart issue).

        ps – shhh about the stalinist theocracy – we don’t want anyone to know.

        1. I called them Satanists, who are a lot nicer than Stalinists, especially if you buy the John Milton revisionist theory of Satan.

          I guess it was your mom’s U.S. Senate race that had me thinking of her as a Senator.  Actually, most politicians make me think of Sennatt, as in Mack Sennatt, the comedian.

          Your mom is an exception.  

  4. This information is courtesy of the Mary Seawell campaign. She is a candidate for the At-large Seat.

    The first is Wednesday, September 23rd at Bruce Randolph Middle School from 5:30 to 7:00

    3955 Steele St

    Denver, CO 80205-3613

    (720) 424-1080

    The second is Wednesday, September 30th at Dora Moore K-8 from 6:30 to 7:30

    http://moore.dpsk12.org/

    (303) 831-7044. 846 Corona Street. Denver CO 80218

    The third is Thursday, October 8th at Lincoln High School from 5:30 to 6:30

    2285 S Federal Blvd

    Denver, CO 80219-5400

    (720) 423-5000

  5. This is why “Medicare for All” is such a bad idea. The rules for Medicare/Medicaid were written so long ago, and with such stupid provisions (like the one mentioned here) that trying to put everyone else in the system would make it collapse under all the nonsensical bullshit.

    TriCare for All, people. Modern rules written in 1994, updated over 12 regions for cost and inflation, and none of this stupid shit….

    http://gizmodo.com/5359831/med…

  6. There is no way I can see to contact ColoradoPols when we are having trouble with a site.  I need help.  I have tried to log on to DenverPols to see if that might work better for DPS election questions.  The password emailed to me is called invalid.  I have tried to open a new account and so far have done five security codes…I don’t know if I am flunking an IQ test or a visual screen…but this is driving me crazy…

    Plus, the topics approved for diaries on ColoradoPols does not include education.

    Come on guys, give an old fart a break.

    1. I put the questions in the diary format and it took. It is hell being old and techically impaired.  Let’s see if we can get any candidates to engage this way….

    2. .

      I don’t think that diaries are only allowed for approved topics.  

      I’ve twice posted diaries about getting out of Iraq, and I doubt that is an approved topic.

      Try posting a diary without giving the topic.

      .

      1. I had trouble with the DenverPols site; but the diary for ColoradoPols worked fine.  No responses yet.  But, this may just not be the right format for candidates who don’t make the decision, themselves, to go ahead and post here and enter the fray, so to speak.  It is rough territory….present company  excepted, of course..:))

    1. …and my reaction is f*ck the Repubs. Baucus’s efforts have gone for naught, so it’s time to not worry about the Party of No.

      The Dems are free to cram whatever bill down the Repubs throat they feel like. And even after reading the excellent Reconciliation brief we got yesterday, I’m sure that the appropriate manipulations can come out of the Senate to get a decent bill to the Prez.

      1. Not one of the assholes on the R side are going to support it anyway, so why pretend ?  

        I believe Baucus just uses the pretext that he hopes R’s MIGHT support it so he can send out a toothless bill that keeps his health insurers/top 10 campaign contributors happy. What a sick puppy that man is.

    3. is that it creates something actually more disastrous than the status quo.  People who possess half a brain cell or more need to understand that the problems with costs, access and lack of true competition can actually get worse with some proposals.

  9. Decent article about Michael Moore and his new film “Capitalism: A Love Story” at the NY Times:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09…

    HYPOCRITE. PROPAGANDIST. Egomaniac. Glutton. Exploiter. Embarrassment. Slob. These are a few of the criticisms that have been lobbed at Mr. Moore since his career began, and these are just the ones from liberals.

    His arrival with “Roger & Me” seemed to crystallize a contradiction in the elite liberal sensibility, one that is still unresolved. Through President Ronald Reagan, both Bushes, Whitewater and Kenneth W. Starr, some liberals have craved their own class warrior, a Rush Limbaugh for the left who would take the fight unapologetically to the Republicans.

    But faced with Mr. Moore (and later, Keith Olbermann) they recoil, claiming that kind of aggressiveness is somehow at odds with the notion of being a liberal. In a famous attack, Pauline Kael wrote that “Roger & Me” was “gonzo demagoguery that made me feel cheap for laughing.” Funny – none of Rush’s listeners ever say that about him.

    1. gave it rave reviews last night. Moore was on his show and he mentioned that Moore really did his homework and that he is pretty fair with the criticism across the board and goes after both Dems and Repubs equally. I’m looking forward to seeing it because most of the financial crisis and Wall Street are still pretty much a mystery to me.  

  10. CrunchyCon

    How low will these people go? Look, I think it’s important to talk about black male violence, or at least as important as it is to talk about any other important social trend. I don’t think we should be squeamish about discussing it in a responsible and fair-minded way, despite what the politically correct say. But good grief, Limbaugh is up to something wicked. He’s plainly trying to rally white conservatives into thinking that now that we have a black president, blacks are rising up to attack white kids! Christ have mercy, what is wrong with these people?

    I won’t have anything to do with it, not even tangentially, which is why I took down the post. I can’t see this as anything other than Limbaugh deliberately trying to whip up racial fear and loathing of the president. This goes far, far beyond tough criticism of Obama. Does that man Limbaugh have any idea what rough beast he’s calling forth?

  11. http://www.washingtonpost.com/…

    A woman awoke to a 4:00 AM phone call from her family’s homeland of Ghana to discover that she had been chosen to become king of a small village.

    Peggielene Bartels lives in Silver Spring and works as a secretary. When she steps off an airplane in Ghana on Thursday, arriving in the coastal town her family has controlled for half a century, she will be royalty — with a driver, a chef and an eight-bedroom palace, albeit one in need of repairs she will help finance herself.

    “I’m a big-time king, you know,” said Bartels, seated at her desk at the Ghanaian embassy just off Van Ness Street NW, where she has worked for almost 30 years.

    It’s not becoming Queen of England, but how many people wouldn’t like to wake up one day and actually be King?

  14. from the Daily Camera

    University of Colorado Regent Tom Lucero has a play up his sleeve: He wants to help change the way college football crowns its champs.

    He poop for brains – as a regent how about focusing on what matters – like a dwindling budget, a lack of focus on academics, and student drinking.

    Give this guy his free season football tickets for life if he’ll resign and let someone who’ll actually do the job take his seat.

  16. It was all about the future of journalism. It was pretty cool. I met Washington DC policy makers, lobbyists, politician representatives (including Bennett’s rep who discussed the ^ email ^), and newspaper people from all over the USA. Prety neat conversations and people there.

    I sat next to the CU Journalism professor and the executive director for the Arvada Center as well as the editor for the Ft Collins Coloradoan and got to talk shop with some of the brightest minds in modern media today. They had free cupcakes and peanut butter chocolate brownies there as well which I enjoyed.

    There were lots of out of work radio and newspaper reporters there though which all complained aboout how things are changing and why fact-based / objective journalism is so important in today’s world. I agree in theory but in practice newspapers and modern newspapers have had a hard time adapting to what the paying customers (ie; advertisers) are willing to support and let’s face it, Us magazine, National Enquirer, Perezhilton.com, and TMZ.com are what the average people want to read and advertise with these days much to the consternation of the journalists assembled in the room…

    Sadly, the only ideas many of these out of work journalists seemed to have were to create subscription & membership based news sites…umm, hasn’t that idea been tried and found to not work?

    Many of the former Rocky Mountain News staffers are planning to start a new online venture this fall with a public radio / public TV non-profit business model based on getting members and corporate underwriting.

    Is this the answer? I don’t think so, since more non-profits going to the same funding sources like the CPB and existing grants and endowments will only dilute the amount of money each organization will end up getting – the former Rocky staffers are going to try this model anyway though – Will it work? What do you think?

    There were even some conspiracy 9/11 crackpots there tonite as well who were pretty entertaining.

    There were hundreds of people there by the way which exceeded the expectations of the organizers. Anyhow, anyone else go to this free event tonite?

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