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December 22, 2018 07:13 AM UTC

2018 Christmas Shutdown Day 1 Open Thread

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  1. We wish you a Trumpy Stinkmas.

    We wish you a Trumpy Stinkmas.

    We wish you a Trumpy Stinkmas.

    And a crappy Trump Year.

    Amazing.  That idiot can even ruin the holidays.

     

  2. Merry Christmas to Colorado from Donald Trump.

    Please enjoy the TRUMP GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN and the TRUMP STOCK MARKET CRASH. 

    Awaiting commentary from Moderatus, Powerful Pear, and Andrew Carnegie.

      1. Trump's pullout also allows Turkey to pivot and attack the Kurds.

        Trump apparently didn't wait for any planning about the military pull out from Syria and Afghanistan. 

        Leaks about Trump's reaction to the economic meltdown show he's thinking of trying to fire a Fed commissioner he appointed.

        Trump's Acting AG got ethics advice that he should recuse himself — and is choosing not to recuse himself.

        New work requirements for federal food assistance did not pass Congress in the new Farm bill. So, the Sad!-ministration found a work-around, proposing regulations redefining levels of unemployment needed to allow exemptions to … work requirements. 750,000 or so getting assistance live in areas that will lose the exemptions. Publication in the Federal Register is expected soon, which will kick off a 60 day comment period.

      1. The most effective shutdown would be a shutdown of Donald Trump's cable TV accounts. He would do far less harm to the country golfing non-stop than watching right wing media and making policy based on it.

        Of course, you voted for the guy, and probably still support him. Are you happy with the Trump shutdown?

          1. Southern border is just the tip of the iceberg, Negev. Biggest source today of illegals is people who overstay visas. Trump says and does nothing. Trump ignores the flow of illegals across the Canadian border, exclusive of Alaska. Then there are people who can illegally enter through one of our Gulf ports if they find a fishing boat captain to bring them to the US.

            The country needs comprehensive immigration reform, including reform of so-called asylum laws which were mostly created during the Cold War and not intended for impoverished economic refugees from Central America. The development money now proposed for Central America will help as long it isn't siphoned off by their corrupt governments. And the US needs another guest worker program for agricultural laborers.

            1. Agreed. These issues however are not the ones shutting down the government, this wall thing is. Hopefully this standoff will break something loose and point us in a direction towards the resolve of the rest of these longstanding issues which clearly preceded the current administration. Cortez is correct, these politicians should not be paid. 

  3. I think it scans better this way, V

    We wish you a Stinky Trumpmas.

    We wish you a Stinky Trumpmas.

    We wish you a Stinky Trumpmas.

    And a crappy Trump Year.

     

  6. As a grand parting gesture, Mike Coffman wants to help negotiations.

    I supported the House-passed $5.7 billion funding-level for border security as a starting point for negotiating with the Senate and the President. My hope is that a compromise will be reached that will avoid a shutdown.

    7:24 PM – 20 Dec 2018

    I'm sure the federal employees working without assurance of WHEN they will be paid, those furloughed wondering IF they will be paid, the federal contractors who WON'T be paid, and all the businesses who CAN'T do business with a closed agency will appreciate his interest in last minute negotiations.

    1. I guess Shorty’s finally concerned about his legacy . . .

      . . . and hopes to be remembered for more than just being the ex-spouse of a former one-term Colorado AG?

  7. Well, the tax benefits I get from the new tax bill have been wiped out by a factor of more than TEN by Trump’s stock market crash.  In less than two years Trump has decimated the seven year Obama stock market annual increases.  This is a special call out to my brother-in-law who was thankful for the Dow Jones Industrial Average two Thanksgivings ago.  Freakin moron.

    1. Yes, even though I put money into CD's a couple of years ago as a hedge after Trump's election, the market losses really sting.  The damage to world trade for our farmers and the rising cost of durable goods will far outlive Trump's current reign of terror.  In the meantime, my former employer is still dumping tens of billions of repatriated funds into stock buybacks.

  8. Melania and Barron on their way back to Washington DC to pose with his Hairness during the shutdown. He was scheduled to spend two weeks at Mar-a-Lago , but apparently thought better of the optics.

    Plus the Secret Service would be expected to spend two weeks protecting his lumpy ass without pay.

    Melania made her own choice as an adult, but I do feel sorry for Barron. About 10 years from now, assuming that we still have a country, expect a blockbuster tell-all novel or video- "Can't Buy Me Love – My Life with Daddy Trump".

  10. Trump Policy Gyrations Threaten Fragile Republican Coalition – New York Times

    Perhaps no Republicans are more on edge than those who will be on the ballot with the president in 2020. Senator Cory Gardner of Colorado, perhaps the most vulnerable Republican senator up for re-election, suggested the president needed to recognize the damage he was inflicting with the suburban voters who are so pivotal to the party.

    “I think conduct matters and I think message matters and we need to do a better job,” Mr. Gardner said.

      1. "message matters……." 

        Tell that to the leadership of the Colorado Republican Party. The message put out, in last month's election, by their registered agents; Katie Kennedy, Mike McCauley, Rick Enstrom; was not what I would call an uplifting and inspirational message. 

        1. Pfffft.  “Good messaging” is 99.97% good policy.  The problems of the Republican party will not be solved by putting any more lipstick on its Corys.

          1. Good points, all. Cory has built his career on “messaging” – saying glibberish with a straight face, charming grin, and fluent delivery. 

            His conduct has been typical Republican – no big scandals, but really avoiding substantive conversations with voters. Avoidance is his superpower. 

            The policies he’s promoted have hurt his constituents – taking away healthcare, tax cuts for the top 5% , backing punitive and cruel immigration policies, tarifffs making it even harder for smaller farmers to survive. 

            I salute Colorado voters who are not fooled by Cory’s smile and sweet talk – leading to his polling with approval / disapproval of 39  / 37%- and that’s with Republicans – it’s much lower with independent and unaffiliated voters, who overwhelmingly voted for Democrats in the last election.

            Time to get real or go home, Cory Gardner. You can’t even fool some of the people some of the time any more.

    2. Maybe the WordPress had an update, or the the database or…

      You could just go back to reading newspapers and books. No pesky electrons running around. 

    3. The only consistent element of when I have been logged off is when I had to clear my cache on a browser. 

      Since there hasn't been a larger number of people complaining at the same time you do, is there a chance that COLORADOPOLS and its software are not the ones forcing you to remember a user name and password?

    4. Dave,

      Print this out and tape it to your computer screen:

      8 + 5 = 13

       

      (I guess most non-Republucans under age 56 don’t find this equation that difficult to remember . . .)

  13. Sunday morning reading, and found The Atlantic article which considers the ability of smart people to predict political success of "rising political stars". The Colorado angle … Scott McInnis was one of the 10 "Future Political Stars" predicted in 1987.

    SCOTT McINNIS (1987: Republican state representative in Colorado)

    McInnis’s star shone bright from the start. A former police officer and fourth-generation Coloradan who won his state House seat by 13 votes, the closest legislative race in Colorado history, he became chair of the state House Agriculture, Livestock, Natural Resources and Wildlife Committee and—in large measure because of his skill in appealing to environmentalists, hunters, and energy interests—was being groomed for a seat in Congress when the original Journal story appeared.

    He won that seat, kept it for six terms, served on both the Rules and the Ways and Means Committees, and returned to Colorado, in part to care for his aging parents. He fought off a messy claim of plagiarism and narrowly lost a gubernatorial race. Then he went into business but had what he described as “heavy withdrawal pains of missing politics.” So he ran for, and won, a seat as a Mesa County commissioner.

    “I’m thoroughly enjoying it,” he said. “I don’t have to travel. I think I bring some value to this job. I had a great run in Congress, but I got what I wanted. I spent some time with my folks, and they’re gone now. And I am really enjoying this. Here, we’re not only the legislative branch—we are the executive, too.” 

      1. Trivia question: what does Scott McInnis have in common with the last four retired Republican senators from Colorado (the late Bill Armstrong, Hank Brown, Wayne Allard, Ben Nighthorse Campbell), but not with Cory Gardner?

        Answer: McInnis and the four Republican senators all sponsored wilderness bills for Colorado. 2019 will be the time for Cory to step up.

  14. The joke that is Civil.

    Civil unrest: How a blockchain-based journalism startup bumbled its launch

    "Compared to the $0.75 estimation that we made with each of you and if we do our jobs right and execute the way we would like to, it's looking like we could see a two to four X in that value by the time this token sale is complete, and I think that's exciting for everybody," Iles continued.

    But even that $0.75 valuation put the tokens at more than 789 times what was actually listed in a formal filing. That document was marked as a confidential "Restricted Token Agreement" and has been provided to Ars. It cited the "fair market value" of one CVL at "$0.00095 per Token."

    2. I got lost trying to follow how to buy a subscription to the Colorado Sun via bitcoin and Civil. And that’s not a good sign – I’m fairly tech savvy. 

      It looks as though they now have a traditional paper pay option- a good thing, since I’d like to support independent news organizations. 

      1. I signed up for the regular subscription from the start because it seemed to me the intended purchasers of the tokens were industry pros for governance purposes, not something that would change hands frequently, or be used to fund individual subscriptions.  As for the FMV, that seems analogous to a stock’s nominal $1 par value regardless of the actual sale price.

        Bottomline, as Psuedo’s article points out is that good intentions aside, bitcoin, while sexy and has potential, currently doesn’t have the right kind of appeal to the typical media investors.  Too easy to abuse, and insufficient unique value unavailable by other means.  A fad ☹️

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