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March 02, 2010 04:53 PM UTC

Tuesday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“Among those who dislike oppression are many who like to oppress.”

–Napoleon Bonaparte

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83 thoughts on “Tuesday Open Thread

  1. Griffith has become a powerful representative of The People’s will.  With 90% of Americans relying on over priced healthcare the Dems only solution is more forced used of insurance.  The problem is the 90% that have it and that portion of the 10% that don’t who still are net taxpayers, will foot the bill.

    (AP) In the entire health care debate, among all the competing lawmakers, politicians, experts and pundits, there’s just one person who has seen things from both sides of the political aisle. That is Rep. Parker Griffith of Alabama, who was elected as a Democrat in 2008 and was part of the House Democratic caucus until last Dec. 22, when he switched sides to become a Republican. (Republican-turned-Democrat Sen. Arlen Specter doesn’t count, because he switched parties in April 2009, before the current health care debate got underway.)

    Given Griffith’s unique perspective — he is also a doctor, with 30 years’ experience as an oncologist — perhaps he has some insight into why the White House and his former Democratic allies in Congress continue to press forward on a national health care bill despite widespread public opposition.

    It’s gotten personal, Griffith says. “You have personalities who have bet the farm, bet their reputations, on shoving a health care bill through the Congress. It’s no longer about health care reform. It’s all about ego now. The president’s ego. Nancy Pelosi’s ego. This is about personalities, saving face, and it has very little to do with what’s good for the American people.”

    snip

    And now Democratic leaders are showing signs of weakness. Why would they suddenly express interest, even feigned interest, in Republican ideas they derided for months? Why would they invite GOP lawmakers to a high-profile discussion of health care? Because they don’t have the votes to pass the bill. “If they had the votes, we wouldn’t have had the summit,” said Republican Rep. Marsha Blackburn on CBS Sunday.

    That’s a change from the heady days of last year, when Democrats, as Griffith says, “never really wanted anyone else’s input” on health care. When a Republican offered a suggestion, “There was a polite smile and a comment like, ‘That’s very interesting, and we’ll take a look,'” Griffith recalls. Of course, they never did. Now, they make a big show of listening.

    But it’s too late to make the fundamental changes that would be required to improve the bill. It’s too late to change public opinion. It’s too late to reassure nervous lawmakers. The Democratic leadership has made the decision to push the bill to the very end, and so they will.

    It’s personal.

    Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer….

    1. to identify a Liber-turd.  Don’t expect any response to comments.  He’ll just move on to the next press release from from somewhere over the far right rainbow.

      Here’s something that caught my eye and I’d like to hear what some of our smart, financially literate people have to say about it:

      It Wasn’t a Mortgage Recession After All: So Why Don’t We Feel Better?By Robert X Cringely Feb 26th 2010 @ 12:00PM

      Filed Under: News

      A A A The Great Recession wasn’t the result of subprime mortgage madness, according to a new report from the National Bureau of Economic Research. It was just a plain old bank panic. Yeah, but weren’t bank panics supposed to be a thing of the past, thanks to the creation of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation in 1934?

      That’s the problem.

      The report, by Yale economics professor Gary Gorton, says subprime mortgage securitization was a mess — a house of cards probably doomed to fall — but subprime by itself simply wasn’t big enough to put the entire financial system at risk. That required a failure of the Renew Sale and Repurchase (REPO) market for collateralized securities that over the last 30 years had come to backstop global finance.

      The problem here, of course is that hardly anyone has even heard of REPO, which manages to be an unregulated, uninsured $20 trillion business that is absolutely essential to keeping money flowing in the world. Subprime is only $1.2 trillion — not big enough by itself to wag this dog.

      According to Gorton, the entire basis of global banking changed in the 1980s, thanks to money market funds and junk bonds, which took all the profit out of being a traditional bank. So banks began securitizing loans to regain those lost profits.

      Continued at http://www.housingwatch.com/20

      1. I think Repo and the liquidity market in general is ground zero.  It is not the only cause, but it is a significant one.

        I have pounded the table for years how financial risk models do not properly account for counterparty risk.  Repo is a dual backed security, part of it is the value of the collateral part is the strength of the counterparty.  When AAA counterparties such as AIG suddenly become insolvent the value of the underlying securities becomes a real issue.

        Also left unsaid was how GLB undoing Glass-Stegall took out the breakpoints that would have stopped a security crisis in the trading portfolios jumping to the general banking crisis.

        Let me finish by saying Repo is a great tool and I love it, the problem is the environment it operates in.

    1. Why increased administrative authority to fire teachers would almost certainly not improve the quality of the teacher pool, and would in fact probably impoverish it:

      1) The demand for teachers is not going down, the pool of money with which to pay salaries is not on the verge of going dramatically up, and people respond to the incentives they are faced with.

      2) When you put these facts together, increased firing authority to administrators results in a possible reduction of some bad teachers on the margins (though a surprising number of exceptional teachers would probably get the ax as well), but also results in a much more significant reduction in the number of excellent new teachers entering the profession. This is a consequence of imposing a net reduction of incentives for people with the most options to choose to become teachers (something which will result in those most capable of pursuing other professions to do so in larger numbers).

      And why increased institutionalized community involvement would be a much more practical and useful step for education reform:

      1) We utilize a free and abundant resource (volunteers, particularly retired folks).

      2) We increase accountability by increasing transparency: The community is there, seeing how teachers teach, and evaluating them with the “genius of the many” informed by direct observation.

      3) We do so without confronting many opposing vested interests, so it is very implementable.

      4) And we strengthen communities in the process, which is a social development that we desperately need to make headway on.

      From that foundation, we can build toward a model with ever-increasing accountability, and ever more functional incentive structures for all involved.

      1. Teachers are only in it for the tenure? I don’t think so. In just about every other profession, workers are subject to firing. I don’t get why teachers require tenure.

        And your idea of education reform rests on the backs of senior volunteers and community involvement?

        I presume you have references to support your assertions. I’d be interested in seeing them.

      2. tis a puzzlement.

        As to Steve’s idea:

        We increase accountability by increasing transparency: The community is there, seeing how teachers teach, and evaluating them with the “genius of the many” informed by direct observation.

        You have that in many schools. The question then is, what do you do when this transparency & accountability makes clear you have an inept teacher?

        Apparently nothing:

        increased administrative authority to fire teachers would almost certainly not improve the quality of the teacher pool

        Steve, I have one simple question for you. Let’s say we create your system exactly how you want. And that system will then make clear what teachers should not be teaching.

        How do you fire them under your system?

        1. You create a process with some distribution of responsibility for review, in which the cases on both sides are presented, and a decision is reached by a panel comprised not solely of administators, in full public view. This provides protections against political and improper removals, while providing a mechanism for removing the incompetent.

          To ajb, no one is suggesting that “teachers are only in it for tenure.” Rather, teachers, like all people, are affected by the balance of incentives they are faced with. If you alter the balance so as to decrease the incentives, the choice that is therefore less incentivized is made less often. This is the very basis of economic theory, on which David pretends to rely.

          You’re right: Teachers don’t require tenure. But if you move from the current status quo to a new regime in which the only difference is the elimination of tenure, you will, with almost mathematical certainty, attract fewer of the most qualified new applicants to the job than you currently do, because those are precisely the new entrants with the greatest ability to make other choices that are more lucrative.

          And I’ll ignore David’s desparate baiting. My arguments require no such artificial support.

          1. But if you move from the current status quo to a new regime in which the only difference is the elimination of tenure, you will, with almost mathematical certainty, attract fewer of the most qualified new applicants to the job than you currently do

            I agree 100%. That’s why I say we also need to have merit pay for teachers. Even better than that would be drop the base and have bonuses based on how far the kids in a teacher’s class advance that year. (And for administrators, how the school as a whole does.)

            1. to increase the aggregate pay of teachers, and can’t legally simply abrogate existing contracts, we aren’t ready to put a substantial enough merit pay system into place yet. We would first need a realignment of public priorities, with a willingness to rather substantially increase teacher pay, and that’s not on the verge of happening (see my first post).

              The sequence of reforms counts, and the vision of what eduction is and can be matters.

              1. So you put the changes into effect today with the stipulation that the new contracts must meet the new rules. That’s why you start today.

                1) Set base pay to 80% of where it is today.

                2) Teachers who advance their class 90% – 100% of 1 year over the school year get a 20% bonus (ie what they were paid before).

                3) Teachers at 80% – 90% get no bonus.

                4) Teachers at 60% – 80% are put on probation.

                5) Teachers under 60% are fired.

                6) And for the teachers at over 100%? They get the 20% plus 1% for each 1% over 100%.

                7) School level administrators go to 70% of base and their bonus is based on the school as a whole.

                8) District level administrators go to 60% of base and their bonus is based on the district as a whole.

                100% of expected improvement is based on the socio-economic status of the school.

                And you eliminate the requirement of a teaching certificate to teach. All that’s required is a diploma form an accredited 4 year college.

                Aside from the fact that the teacher’s union and the administrators would scream bloody murder (what – pay based on results???), what’s not to like?

                1. outlined in my first post. Playing with the percentages doesn’t significantly alter the earning potential of going into education relative to going into other professions, and, to the extent that you offer competitive salaries to the most competent, you are offering even more non-competitive salaries to those who don’t survive the shark tank than you were offering before. The adverse incentive structure is not eliminated, and may in fact have been made even worse under your scheme.

                  1. Not to be harsh but when we’re about to lay off teachers we are not facing a shortage. The present pay scales clearly are sufficient to fill the jobs.

                    As to those that would see a pay cut under this scenario – good. They either learn to do better or they will leave. I’d prefer they improve but if they don’t then we want them to leave.

                    1. but rather because there’s no money. There is a chronic shortage of teachers, and an even more chronic shortage of highly qualified ones. The present pay-scales, combined with the present overall incentive structure, is sufficient to give us teachers of exactly the quantity and quality we currently have, which doesn’t leave a lot room for financing your whole quality-improvement project.

                      Your last two sentences are too clueless to respond to. But that hasn’t stopped me yet. You admitted at one point that measuring outputs is difficult, “but has to be done.” Now you are ready to throw those intrepid fledgling teachers into the trash on the basis of this unresolved technical hurdle? And you expect high quality applicants to line up for the opportunity to be evaluated according to measures that more often than not are measuring the effects of variables completely outside their control? Yeah. That’s brilliant.

                    2. Really not worth responding to at all, and all the attention you give him only gives his stupid ideas credibility.

                    3. They are not accepting applications for teaching or substitute teaching – they’re full up. I’d say that’s a clear measure that there’s no shortage of people wanting to teach.

                    4. for teachers or subs in Mesa, Delta and Montrose counties.

                      It’s not just Boulder.

                      I also think David is right about eliminating teacher certificates as a job requirement. A bachelor’s degree is sufficient.

                    5. BA/BS is enough for quality experienced teachers But not for new grads.

                      How would you feel about eliminating most of high school?

                      Say elementary school goes – preK – 7.

                      Secondary goes 8 & 9 or maybe 10.

                      Baccalaureate work begins then.

          2. decision is reached by a panel comprised not solely of administators, in full public view

            Kinda like 72 hours of posting for a final bill and cariied live on CSPAN, as opposed to no public disclosure, purchases, kickbacks and nightmovements in the whitehouse basement.

            Sounds like Obamacare.

          3. You create a process with some distribution of responsibility for review, in which the cases on both sides are presented, and a decision is reached by a panel comprised not solely of administators, in full public view.

            Ok Steve, can you name one system that does this that works well? The only place I can think of that comes close is faculty in Universities – where they have a giant problem that people with unpopular views do not get hired.

            You also face the problem that this would be illegal. There are a boatload of laws that make personal issues private.

            Not to mention that you want to talk about scaring off people from teaching – “hey all of your imperfections are going to be broadcast on channel 8 every year as a panel of people discuss if you should be retained.” And every student or parent you pissed off is going to get to tell their story in front of your community. Oh yeah, that’s going to bring them in.

            1. it is patterned after an administrative law model. But I am not about to defend one hypothetical answer to a challenge to demonstrate an alternative possibility to authoritarianism in public school firing decisions; your challenge was to demonstrate that there are alternatives, and I demonstrated that there are alternatives. I hadn’t ever given the matter any thought before, and did not give it much now. The point is that we can design alternatives which protect people from political and cosmetic discharges while also creating a process for firing the incompetent.

              Or are you going to claim victory because my off-the-cuff disproof of your premise isn’t a perfect solution to all problems?

              1. I could say let flying unicorns make the decision and I will have proposed an alternative. The trick is to find something that works well and can be applied here.

                I don’t care about claiming victory – I just want schools that are not a complete disaster like we presently have. If you can come up with a better way to review teachers – I’m in favor of it. But I think it needs to be something that has been shown to work well.

                1. under the same set of circumstances in which that success occurs. This is not the same set of circumstances as your “something with a track record of success,” nor can it quite be, as I’ve laid out in agonizing detail over and over again. You might just as reasonably send in lion tamers, since they have a record of success at taming lions.

                  The track record of success that you are citing occurs in a completely different context, with different variables and imperatives at play. It is not as fungible as you think it is.

                  And the goal is not to review teachers; it’s to improve education. Reviewing teachers is one possible (probably essential) component of that goal, but it is not the goal itself. In terms of how better to achieve the actual goal, I have laid out a plan to do so, one which has few or no obstacles to implementation, is not, in fact, yet widely implemented, and sets in motion many positive developments that can then be built on.

                  Obviously, you meant that I am proposing flying unicorns, and you are proposing a common sensical solution. I think you have it backwards. You are proposing a magical panacea that a close analysis indicates would be flooded with dysfuntional unintended consequences, and would in aggregate accomplish exactly the opposite of what it is intended to accomplish.

                  You’d be better off with flying unicorns.

                  I, on the other hand, have proposed something based on an examination of the system we are trying to affect, including consideration of both existing and desired incentive structures. It’s an analysis rather than an assumption. Policies based on sweeping and superficial assumptions just aren’t that great an idea.

                  1. You are proposing a magical panacea that a close analysis indicates would be flooded with dysfuntional unintended consequences, and would in aggregate accomplish exactly the opposite of what it is intended to accomplish.

                    Numerous people who have looked for workable solutions have not only proposed what I have listed (that’s where I got it from), but they are doing it. Washington DC as one example.

                    I, on the other hand, have proposed something based on an examination of the system we are trying to affect, including consideration of both existing and desired incentive structures. It’s an analysis rather than an assumption. Policies based on sweeping and superficial assumptions just aren’t that great an idea.

                    You’ve proposed a complex untested system that has one Steve Harvey attesting to it’s effectiveness – and that’s it. The fact that you used a lot of big words to describe it does not mean it will work.

                    1. You’re right: It’s not the fact that I’ve worked with institutional economic models and in public education that is the reason why someone truly interested in seeking out the best and most viable solutions wouldn’t be so dismissive of my ideas, but rather because, in a world of uncertainty and human imperfection, ideas shouldn’t be dismissed, or embraced, with absolute certainty too precipitously.

                      By the way, my model is based on a huge body of research and theory, including a multi-million dollar project on which I was a core team member and ethnographer, in how to affect the normative structure of social institutional arrangements. The lion’s share of my academic training and research was devoted to understanding the interactions and trade-offs among, and relative strengths and weaknesses of, hierarchies and markets, and the role that agency problems play in those trade-offs, all of which are strongly implicated in your suggestion. But, you’re right, you undoubtedly know much more about these things than I ever will, because, after all, in your political analytical world knowledge is assumed rather than acquired.

                      I have stated several times that I don’t dismiss your ideas, but rather am critiquing them in search of the best ideas. Granted, you’ve been such an asshole about it that I started to become loath to feed into your pompous condescensions, but, in a discussion with someone less ideologically entrenched, I would have been far more interested in exploring the merits of what you had to say.

                      My ideas, unlike yours, are an exploration, not a final certainty. I don’t sit here and say, “This is it! Pack up your bags and go home, ’cause I got the final solution right here in my greasy little fist! Hallalujah!” No, David, I say that …wait for it… the world is a complex and subtle place, and our shared lives are a tangle of complex dynamical systems. There are some simple solutions, but you get to them by understanding complexity, not by ignoring it.

                      I know that I don’t know, and revel in the challenge of continually discovering, continually pondering, continually considering, and, yes, fighting to implement ideas ripe for experimentation. Trial and error is a vital part of the overall human endeavor. A better constucted and more carefully considered idea that incorporates some of what you are suggesting could be such an idea (and may be such an idea, elsewhere). But in the form you are presenting it, with the certainty you are insisting upon, with the complete lack of qualification or consideration of unintended consequences, it is definitely not ripe for experimentation. If you were writing a grant proposal with even the slightest hint of the inflexibility and arrogance that you have expressed here, it would be in the trash in almost the same motion that it was drawn from the envelope.

                      You, unlike me, already have the one best idea, and no one knows anything that can affect your certainty. I’m stuck in a more complex world, in which it’s not all quite so simple. You know I’m wrong, because Occam’s razor insists, in your interpretation, that any idea that is simpler must be better.

                      Okay, David. You win. You, after all, have the unique ability to go straight to the answers. I, with my inferior capacity, have to wrestle with the questions first.

        2. The best and brightest potential new teachers considering entering the profession, I posit, are, on average, confident of their ability to be great teachers, and so would not be very much disincentivized by the prospect of being held accountable for the quality of their teaching. However, they are, I believe (and have observed), a somewhat risk-averse group (because a significant proportion of the brightest and most talented who are not risk-averse choose to bet their talents and intelligence on the riskier whims of the marketplace), some significant proportion of whom would be disincentivized to pursue a career in education if it is held at the whim of one or two individuals who have risen to positions of authority through a highly politicized process (in which case, the scales tip more in favor of the more lucrative market, which offers greater rewards at the same risk).

          Yes, the sheer desire to teach is on the scales as well, but it is not alone on the scales. Any factor in isolation tips those scales one way or the other, all other things being equal.

          I want to emphasize that ajb’s reduction of these interacting considerations to a simple dichotomy (either they are in it for tenure, or they are not in it for tenure) is not the way to think about it. There is a spectrum of people considering entering the field, and a variety of variables affecting their decisions. Alter the variables, and some of the people at one end or the other of the spectrum fall off. Considering only incoming new teachers (which should not be considered in isolation in the final analysis, but rather in combination with other considerations), the goal is to alter the variables so that the least qualified rather than most qualified fall off, and so that there are still enough new entrants to fill existing and potential vacancies, hopefully enough to replace the less qualified veteran teachers who are removed through a process that protects them against the caprice of a process dominated by attention to appearances.

          Ideally, we would want to get to a place where the education becomes depoliticized, and the process runs more smoothly. But you don’t start moving toward that condition by making teachers more vulnerable from the outset. You put other reforms into place first.

          1. Private schools and charter schools both do fine without that requirement. And it opens up the pool of qualified teachers by orders of magnitude.

            That increase in the potential labor pool alone would address your worry about not enough superb teachers available.  

            1. would be (and is) an improvement over the prior system. That, in fact, is how I entered public education (“teacher-in-residence” program, for people with special skills in high demand). I don’t agree that it is a panacea. In fact, I don’t believe in panaceas. Especially ones that reduce to authorizing some individuals to exercise more caprice over the fate of other individuals. A little due process goes a long way.

  2. Susan Shepherd is running for the City Council for the seat vacated by Rick Garcia.

    Susan is one of the hardest workers around and I would bet that she wins.

    1. as opposed to the taxpayers advocate which of course doesn’t exist.

      The dingle nuts that work under the Director and Deputy Director have free run of the place so I am not surprised.  They consistantly engage in politics and policy making by going around the Director and Deputy Director to enact bad tax policy in the name of more government revenue.

      No wonder that tax increase bill they crammed down your throat is causing you problems.  Again, it’s just bad tax policy all around when as you pointed out they could have adopted the Boulder model or elements of it.  

      Now your industry and all businesses that buy from you will fail to create or save thousands of jobs in and around IT … but not in Utah. Trashing Colorado’s competitive advantage is one thing, but driving the job saving and creating to Utah, Nevada, New Mexico, Nebraska or Georgia is truely sad.

  3. With 40 years of failed NEA policies driving education into the toilet Obama is forced to awaken from a deep slumber.  Unfortunately, he staggers to his feet holding the race card and claiming its a minority issue.

    I hate to say it, but DPS is pretty white and its dropout rate exceeds 50% … the same goes for public schools across the nation — except in places like Colorado’s own Pueblo where nearly 75% graduate from High School.

    Let’s be honest here …. this isn’t a race problem.

    By Michael A. Fletcher and Nick Anderson

    Washington Post Staff Writer

    Tuesday, March 2, 2010

    President Obama voiced support Monday for the mass firings of educators at a failing Rhode Island school, drawing an immediate rebuke from teachers union officials whose members have chafed at some of his education policies.

    Speaking at an event intended to highlight his strategy for turning around struggling schools by offering an increase in federal funding for local districts that shake up their lowest-achieving campuses, Obama called the controversial firings justified.

    “If a school continues to fail its students year after year after year, if it doesn’t show signs of improvement, then there’s got to be a sense of accountability,” he said. “And that’s what happened in Rhode Island last week at a chronically troubled school, when just 7 percent of 11th-graders passed state math tests — 7 percent.”

    snip

    The White House said 1.2 million students drop out of school each year. The problem is concentrated in the nation’s poorest schools and among minority students.

    snip

    “Restart” schools would be transferred to the control of independent charter networks or other school management organizations. “Transformation” schools would be required to take steps to raise teacher effectiveness and increase learning time, among other measures. The fourth strategy would be closing a school and dispersing its students.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/

  4. I just emailed the following letter to Senator Bunning:

    Dear Senator Bunning,

    I am on a furlough from my job and eligible for Unemployment benefits during this furlough period. I am not a lazy person who refuses to work, I am just waiting to be told to come back to the job I already have. This is expected to happen about the 1st of April.

    However, I rely on unemployment benefits to pay my rent and buy my food until that time. Since you have decided that your principles are more imporant that my being able to pay my living expense, I expect you to send me a check for $500 right away to cover my rent for this month that I am not being able to pay because I have not received my Unemployment payment yet.

    1. get to regularly abuse the system owned by the Taxpayers and funded by other business Taxpayers by calling your termination a furlough.  

      And just what tact has your employer taken with your healthcare?

      Get off your lazy ass and find some day work.  In Union Halls across America it’s call “side work” or “side jobs”, it is usually performed on weekends and nights.

      Do try to be a benefit to society by at least volunteering at Denver general Hospital or some other charity of your choice.  Hell call Steve Harvey and go knock on some doors for him.

      Socialism for the business that abuses the system and socialism for the lazy worker who lacks the dignity to demand better for himself.

      Where is the socialism for the the employers and workers who don’t abuse the system or support policy loopholes that promote socialism?

      You wanna know why the Tea Party movement is so cranked up … this is a perfect example.  Socialism for the Political Elites and loafers like Willis here.

      1. My job actually has no benefits except a pay check (when I am working).

        It is what I do for a living while I seek permanent employment. If I could go out any “find a job” so easily, I would not have this one. Notable one fo the conditions of unemployment is to actively seek employment. I fill out applications and send in resumes nearly daily.

        And I do do temp work through temp agencies when my “regular” job is on furlough. My unemployment is then reduced by whatever I earn at these jobs. However, temp work is scarce these days too.

        1. I do hope you find a good paying job.

          People are just sick of the corrupt political elite and polically connected business and politically connected unions cutting special deals.  So is Steve Wynn, so are the banks, so is everyone else that is sick and tired of the ignorant Democratic policies have abused tax policy and corrupted the fiber and core of America.

          Your parties policies and tone are restircting the very job creation we all seek.  The business of America is business – its not government and non profit sector growth.


          1. ..if Sen. Bunning feels he should take sole responsibility for stopping the release of funds for several things (unemployment just happens to be the one that affects me directly), then he should be also take the sole financial responsibilty for the havoc he is wreaking on people’s lives.

            Some of the dollars he is holding up is to pay salaries so those currently working people are now going without; not because they they dont want to work, but they are being sent home as there are no fu’nds to pay them.

          2. Steven Alan “Steve” Wynn (born January 27, 1942) is an American casino resort/real-estate developer who has been credited with spearheading the dramatic resurgence and expansion of the Las Vegas Strip in the 1990s. His companies refurbished or built some of the most currently widely recognized resorts in Las Vegas such as the Golden Nugget, The Mirage, Treasure Island, Bellagio, Wynn, and Encore.

            As of 2009, Wynn is the 468th richest man in the world (down from 277th) with a net worth of $1.5 billion (down from $3.9 billion).[1] He made his debut in the Forbes 400 at #377 with a net worth of $650 million in September 2003, but was reported to be worth $1.1 billion only six months later in Forbes’ list of world billionaires published in March 2004.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S

            What about socialism that delivers millions of gallons of Colorado River water to Nevada?  

            Ultimately, the most suitable location for the dam was found to be in Black Canyon, 30 miles southeast of Las Vegas.

            …Dedicated in 1935 by President F.D. Roosevelt, the dam would provide electricity to Arizona, Nevada, and southern California. Behind Hoover Dam grew Lake Mead, a 247 square-mile reservoir managed as a National Recreation Area.

            …After the construction of Hoover Dam, water development agencies across the nation and particularly in the West, launched “a forty-year binge” of dam building (Reisner 1990). During this period, the Corps of Engineers built an average of ten large dams a decade, while thousands of smaller dams were erected.

            …The Great Depression and subsequent New Deal politics helped motivate the authorization of these numerous water development projects with the justification that such public works would help stimulate the economy and prevent future depressions.

            Critics have called the Reclamation Act “the nation’s first piece of welfare legislation for the common man.”[Emphasis Twitty]

            http://cpluhna.nau.edu/Change/

            1. He employs over 20,000 taxpayers.  Your policies are wrong for capital formation, wrong for creating jobs and wrong for his emplooyees.

              Your policy outcomes are resulting in the government receiving less tax revenue; this is the policy death spiral your Party has mandated America follow.

              And p.s., when his stock is hurt it depresses the holdings of PERA, CALPers, or your mutual fund.

                  1. Neither of which counters the point I made, that Mr. Wynn’s fortune was built on the backs of US taxpayers that allowed Vegas to ‘bloom.’

                    But I didn’t expect you, of all people, to provide an intelligent response.  

                    1. on whether people are using 120 or 240 volts.

                      Sorry, that’s the only way Libby’s statistic du jour makes sense.

                    2. Hoover Dam – powering LA’s textile sweat shops and Illegal Alien paychecks for decades.  Not to mention it allowed America to expand and provided a sustainable and renewable power source for Hollywood.


                      Generators at the Dam’s Hoover Powerplant began transmission of electricity from the Colorado River to Los Angeles, California 266 miles (428 km) away on October 26, 1936. Additional generating units were added through 1961. Original plans called for 16 large generators, 8 on each side of the river (see architectural illustrations) but two smaller generators were installed instead of one of the large ones on the Arizona side, for a total of 17. The smaller generators were used to serve smaller municipalities at a time when the output of each generator was dedicated to a municipality, before the dam’s total power output was placed on the grid and made arbitrarily distributable.

                      Hydroelectric power plants have the ability to vary the amount of power generated, depending on the demand. Steam turbine power plants are not as easily throttled because of the amount of thermodynamic inertia contained in their systems.

                      Control of water was the primary concern in the building of the dam. Power generation allowed the dam project to be self sustaining: repaying the 50-year construction loan, and continuing to pay for the multi-million dollar yearly maintenance budget. Power is generated in step with and only with the release of water in response to downstream water demands.

                      source: wikipedia



                      Note to Democrats on Hoover Financing:


                      Power generation allowed the dam project to be self sustaining: repaying the 50-year construction loan, and continuing to pay for the multi-million dollar yearly maintenance budget.

                    3. Whether provided by the REA, TVA, or BuRec, the fact is that powering, and quenching the thirst of, America has been a highly subsidized endeavor.  In Vegas, in Colorado, in California, in Kentucky, all across the nation.  Me, I’m not bothered.  I actually believe that the government has a legitimate role in such, just as I think hard working people deserve unemployment insurance when between jobs.

                      But it totally demolishes the argument you think you are making, that Mr. Wynn has any credibility in supporting your claims of socialism.

                      This bibliography briefly describes the estimates made in other reports for the range, magnitude, and effect of Federal intervention in electricity markets. The entries are arranged in chronological order and are characterized as “interest rate measure,” “market measure,” “budget analysis,” or some combination thereof.

                      H.R. Heede, R.E. Morgan, and S. Ridley, The Hidden Costs of Energy (Washington, DC: Center for Renewable

                      Resources, 1985). [Interest rate and budget analysis] Estimating Federal electricity subsidies at $28 billion (1984 dollars),

                      the authors included tax provisions such as accelerated cost recovery, tax exemptions for municipal bonds, agency outlays for the Bureau of Reclamation, the Rural Electrification Administration (now the Rural Utilities Service), the

                      Power Marketing Administrations, and the Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA).

                      M. Kosmo, Money to Burn? The High Costs of Energy Subsidies (New York, NY: World Resources Institute, 1987).

                      [Market measure] Pointing out that the marginal cost of providing electricity was well above the price frequently

                      realized, Kosmo suggested that U.S. consumers of electricity, especially consumers during peak periods, were

                      receiving a subsidy of about $91 billion (1999 dollars) annually. The industry has changed greatly since 1987: peak

                      load pricing is common in retail markets, wholesale markets generally reflect time-of-day value, and most

                      importantly, marginal costs have fallen below the average costs realized in most retail transactions, thereby

                      eliminating this type of subsidy.

                      D.N. Koplow, Federal Energy Subsidies: Energy, Environmental, and Fiscal Impacts (Lexington, MA: The Alliance to Save

                      Energy, 1993). [Interest rate and budget analysis] Koplow estimated that program outlays for the PMAs and TVA

                      amounted to $746 million (1989 dollars). Additionally, Koplow identified $1.2 billion in program outlays for the Rural

                      Electrification Administration. Koplow estimated program outlays for the Army Corps of Engineers at $643 million,

                      but he did not quantify a program outlay for the Bureau of Reclamation. Tax expenditures played an important role

                      in Koplow’s analysis. He estimated an interest rate subsidy of nearly $1.4 billion for exclusion of interest on

                      municipal bonds, and another $283 million for the tax exclusion on bonds for certain energy facilities. By summing

                      accelerated cost recovery tax deductions156 and agency programs for primary energy sources and then allocating

                      their effects to electricity by share of fuel, Koplow arrived at a total estimate for electricity subsidy of $22 billion

                      (1989 dollars). Koplow did not include an estimate based on market price differential.

                       etc. etc. etc.

                      The pdf is here  http://www.google.com/url?sa=t

                      Want the links to show the water subsidies too?  Yes, I have lots of information on this topic.  You, Libby, are wrong again.  But please engage me some more.  I am bored and will gladly school you some more.

                    4. Public power projects like WAPA and REA enjoy massive taxpayer subsidies as well as tax exemptions.  When used to develop rural areas like the REA originally did, such subsidies may be reasonable.  Used to fuel uber growth in Los Angeles and Los Vegas, they are obscene.  I guess Libertad doesn’t mind socialism when it is socialism for the rich.

              1. Point: Steve Wynn got to be one of the wealthiest men in the world by investing in cheap real estate in a city that could only exist because of one of the biggest federal gov’t giveaways ever.

      2. This is a good one – and easy

        1/4 cup olive oil

        1/4 cup sage leaves, loosely packed

        1 tablespoon coarse salt, more for tossing

        3 heads cauliflower, cut into florets

        About 1 teaspoon table salt

        6 tablespoons unsalted butter

        1 lemon, zest finely grated.

        1. Heat oil in a small pan until rippling. Add sage and cook, stirring, just until crisped, about 2 minutes. Lift out sage and drain on paper towels; transfer oil to a large bowl. Let sage cool and crumble with fingers into a small bowl. Stir in coarse salt and set aside.

        2. Heat oven to 375 degrees. Place roasting pan with an inch of water in oven bottom. Add cauliflower to bowl with oil, add about 1 teaspoon table salt, and toss gently until coated. Spread out on two large baking sheets. Bake until browned, 20 to 30 minutes.

        3. Melt butter in a small pan over medium heat. When foam subsides, watch closely and stir often. When white solids are brown and butter smells toasty, turn off heat, squeeze in juice of lemon and stir well.

        4. Transfer cauliflower to a bowl, pour butter over, and add lemon zest. Add half the sage salt and toss. Taste and season with remaining salt as needed.

        Yield: 10 to 12 servings.

        http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11

        Seriously, you’re such an asshole!

      3. Seriously, L: scolding someone on furlough “Get off your lazy ass…”???  Didn’t you get the memo from GW Bush that all conservatives have to pretend they’re sympathetic, not condescendingly indifferent, to those in needful positions?

  5. McInnis, campaigning on a Platform for Prosperity, has vowed that, if elected governor, he will stimulate job growth in the oil and gas industry by rolling back regulations, cut the state budget, invest in roads and bridges, create more opportunities for higher education and workforce training and establish a “rainy day” fund.  He also promised to keep taxes low-and to abide by the Taxpayers’ Bill of Rights, which requires voter approval of tax increases.

    http://crestoneeagle.com/wp/?p

    1. He’s just taking a “leave of absence”.

      Asked by an NBC reporter if he will remain chairman, Rangel responded with an emphatic “yes.”

      “You bet your life on it,” he said.

      Thank God for rational Dems like MOR and RedGreen.  This is seriously freaking ridiculous.  I actually hope he stays – it will be great play in November.

      1. Looks like Rep. Stark might be the interim chair while Rangel awaits final rulings on his ethical issues.

        I hope, personally, that he steps aside and lets someone else take over the seat.  Even in the worst of years, that will remain a Democratic seat – unless Rangel becomes so damaged that he loses a general election he’s not willing to walk away from.

    1. as opposed to the taxpayers advocate which of course doesn’t exist.

      At the end of the day it is just bad tax policy all around when as you pointed out they could have adopted the Boulder model or elements of it for the Software tax increase.  

      Now your industry and all businesses that buy from you will fail to create or save thousands of jobs in and around IT … but not in Utah. Trashing Colorado’s competitive advantage is one thing, but driving the job saving and creating to Utah, Nevada, New Mexico, Nebraska or Georgia is truely sad.

      p.s congratulations on the New Sales and Use Tax Exemption for the Software Industry that can be found in House Bill 10-1192.  I love it, you pass on taxes to your customers and the end consumers; but get a “Coders Kickback” baked into the bill via a S&U Tax Exemption for yourself – how special.

      SECTION 4. 39-26-709 (1) (c) (III), Colorado Revised Statutes, is

      amended to read:

      39-26-709. Machinery and machine tools. (1) (c) As used in this

      subsection (1):

      (III) “Manufacturing” means the operation of producing a new

      product, article, substance, or commodity, OR PRODUCING STANDARDIZED

      SOFTWARE AS DEFINED IN SECTION 39-26-102 (13.5) (a), different from and

      having a distinctive name, character, or use from raw or prepared materials.

      Location of the “Coders Kickback”, page 4: http://www.leg.state.co.us/cli

    2. who have their taxes prepared by accountants, instead of using Turbo Tax or H&R Block, are more likely to pay it, since their accountants ought to catch it.

      Did you come across any figures on actual compliance with this use tax? Are Heath and Buescher the only ones in the state who actually pay it?

  6. http://www.washingtonpost.com/

    Obama called on Congress to pass an administration proposal dubbed “Homestar,” which would offer rebates of up to $3,000 for energy-saving home renovations.

    …Congressional Republicans scoffed at Obama’s plan…

    Conservation and efficiency can go a long way to reducing US energy demand, making us less reliant on dirty fuels like coal.  And while this would be good for Americans, Big Coal might not make as large of profits if people were saving energy in their homes, which are one of the greatest drain on the energy we use and provide some of the greatest potential gains in increased efficiency.

  7. But how would you feel about eliminating most of high school?

    Say elementary school goes – preK – 7.

    Secondary goes 8 & 9 or maybe 10.

    Baccalaureate work begins then.

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