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April 24, 2010 03:03 PM UTC

Weekend Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“Our best built certainties are but sand-houses and subject to damage from any wind of doubt that blows.”

–Mark Twain

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    1. A new study from the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) examines the costs of education, health care and incarceration of illegal aliens, and concludes that the costs to Californians is $10.5 billion per year.

      Among the key finding of the report are that the state’s already struggling K-12 education system spends approximately $7.7 billion a year to school the children of illegal aliens who now constitute 15 percent of the student body. Another $1.4 billion of the taxpayers’ money goes toward providing health care to illegal aliens and their families, the same amount that is spent incarcerating illegal aliens criminals.

      “California’s addiction to ‘cheap’ illegal alien labor is bankrupting the state and posing enormous burdens on the state’s shrinking middle class tax base,” stated Dan Stein, President of FAIR. “Most Californians, who have seen their taxes increase while public services deteriorate, already know the impact that mass illegal immigration is having on their communities, but even they may be shocked when they learn just how much of a drain illegal immigration has become.”

      2. now there’s a name you can trust.  I mean, if you’re an idiot.

        http://www.campusprogress.org/…

        Michael Savage, as much as any other radio host, represents the id of the angry white male.

        …Four months into his MSNBC run, “The Savage Nation” was canceled after its host slurred one of his callers as a “sodomite,” saying, “You should only get AIDS and die, you pig.”

        …Born Michael Weiner in the Bronx in 1942, the future Savage graduated from Queens College with a degree in biology, after which he attended the University of Hawaii for master’s degrees in anthropology and botany.

        …He became an expert on herbal remedies, penning more than 15 books while still known as Michael Weiner, including such classics as Earth Medicine, Earth Food, Getting off Cocaine: 30 Days to Freedom, and The Complete Book of Homeopathy. While his knowledge base in herbal medicine was vast, he was more of a snake oil salesman than anything else. In Getting off Cocaine, he gave addicts “an alternative plan for getting ‘high'” that consisted of a daily dose of Sudafed, vitamins C and E, amino acids, and the occasional coffee enema.

        …Savage is also convinced that affirmative action is a conspiracy to hold back all white males. After the Duke lacrosse scandal broke, he declared that “the cards are stacked against white males in America; and that is the case in North Carolina where a Durham dirt-bag made false accusations against members of a lacrosse team.”

        …Savage’s most vile vitriol, however, is reserved for the LGBT community. He frequently associates homosexuality with pedophilia.

        …”When you hear ‘human rights,’ think gays. When you hear ‘human rights,’ think only one thing: someone who wants to rape your son.”

        …On Hillary Clinton’s possible campaign for president: “The race baiting, oh, it’s going to be a horrible campaign when Hillary starts it. Oh my God. We’re liable to have outright race war in America when she starts running. They’re crazy. They’d stir up a race war, a civil war in the country to get that hag, that harridan elected. There’s no question we’re going to have race war, race riots in America. … Her campaign will be one long hate crime against white people.”

        …On the difference between “South Asians” and “terrorists”: “Whenever you see the word ‘South Asian,’ substitute the word for ‘terrorist,’ or reference to ‘terrorist.’ That’s the new code word, ‘South Asian community.'”

        …On what would happen if John Kerry won the election in 2004: “You can expect home schooling to be eliminated if Kerry wins. … You can expect the Bible to be declared a hate book if Kerry wins. … You can expect the mandatory application of Ritalin to any child with spunk if Kerry wins. … You can expect the complete and total elimination of [a] border with Mexico if Kerry wins.”

        …On what women want: “But women in America don’t really like anger. They don’t even like the news, I don’t know if you know that. They just want it to be calm, and safe – and they want girl talk all the time.” [emphasis Twitty]

        Libby, had you had your coffee yet?

      4. wants the United States to become a place where anyone can be stopped on the street for any reason and forced to comply with the demand “Show me your papers”. If you’re looking for comparisons to Stalin’s USSR or to Hitler’s Germany and occupied Europe, I will certainly not say that Arizona is now just like those places in time and space. That would be insulting to those who were slaughtered and tortured to death under those regimes.

        I do say that Arizona is now a significant step closer than any other place in the United States to those regimes and every single individual who voted for this anti-American obscenity is, by an objective, identifiable degree, more in sympathy with Stalin and Hitler than is our President. Those on the right who support this can just shut up right now about anyone other than themselves being dangerous enemies of freedom and the constitution.

        2. I agree entirely with the notion that people should not be stopped at random and papers demanded.  But I have also seen the extent to which the lack of a system for dealing with illegal immigrants who are committing crimes are a problem.  I do not think for a minute that all the illegal immigrants are criminals other than the fact that they’ve decided to take advantage of lax employment law enforcement.  But the ones who are criminals are a particular problem because unlike with US citizens and legal residents it is very difficult to get them to court or enforce judgments against them.

          I would prefer it to be that when someone is caught committing a crime like theft or shoplifting that it were easier to determine their status and if illegal to expel them from the US.

          Likewise, while I voted against the ham handed mess that was the ballot initiative against unlicensed drivers I do think that we should put more money toward getting unlicensed drivers off the roads.

          1. that it’s more difficult to apprehend or punish illegal immigrants for committing crimes than it is to apprehend and punish any other person who commits a crime? Having worked briefly at the interface of illegal immigrants and the justice system, I saw absolutely no evidence to support this assertion. Do you have any studies to back it up?

            In fact, illegal immigrants who are merely suspected of having committed a crime, or are too close to the commission of a crime by someone else, are uniquely vulnerable, since they are likely to be placed immediately into removal proceedings, despite their presumed innocence for the crime in question.

            1. Where would I get an idea like that?  Since the start of the downturn I’ve been working as a Loss Prevention Agent for a store. I’ve seen it repeatedly where the illegal migrants are not detained and don’t show up to court. I had one case where I showed and some poor woman who’d had her identity stolen by the woman I caught was there crying because she’d gotten this summons she didn’t understand.

              1. The identity theft problem I can certainly see as a legitimate problem: Many illegals “steal” identities for the sole purpose of functioning in a society that demands identifying information.

                This is a natural by-product of having a system which drives people underground, with falsified identities.

                Despite the probable recurrence of that scenerio, I don’t see it as quite the same degree of problem as you do. In my experience, illegal immigrants are more rather than less vulnerable to our criminal justice system. Your anecdotal evidence is certainly suggestive, but I’d be curious in seeing a comprehensive study on the subject.

                By the way, do you know why illegal immigration is a civil rather than criminal offense? In order to deprive people in removal proceedings of the constitutional protections that are triggered by being accused of a criminal offense. They’re herded into detention centers, put into prison jumpers, treated like criminals, many of them people with families who have never committed any crime other than to migrate toward opportunity in order to better provide for their families.

                In family detention centers, small children are made to stand for hours, separated from their parents, also treated like criminals.

                Staff infections are rampant. In one case in Park County (which built extra capacity just to rent it out to the feds for this purpose, and, when I visited, were woefully understaffed and underprepared for the enterprise), a detainee had one leg and, if I remember correctly, a part of one arm amputated due to such an infection.

                A detained diabetic teenager at the Aurora detention center didn’t have access to his insulin, and it took us days, despite his mother’s pleadings with ICE, to get it to him. Any idea how dangerous that is?

                For these reasons and others, my hackles go up when people start associating the words “criminal” and “illegal immigrant”. Neither technically (as stated above), nor in any other way, is this an association of terms which does justice to the reality on the ground.

          2. It is the right that paints those of us who disagree with their, as you note, ham handed solutions as having no concerns at all about controlling our borders or about reserving our right to decide who should  and should not be permitted to live and work in our country.

            On the other other hand, the right offers no viable solutions for dealing with those who are already here, have been here long term and who have children either born here or brought here very young. They insist simply that they should all be made to leave but must know, as the words are coming out of their mouths, that identifying and rounding up millions of people for deportation is just not feasible and will never happen.  The left, meanwhile, often seems to refuse to recognize that we should have any concerns whatsoever about illegal immigration or border security, even as the southern border becomes increasingly dangerous, not because terrorists are pouring in but because of the inability to control drug crime that puts American border residents in the cross hairs.

            As long as this issue remains a political football of choice there can be no honest search for fair, practical and enforceable immigration policy that recognizes and addresses our security and safety needs while neither undermining the wage base for American workers nor perpetuating an underclass of workers who are subject to abuse with no redress because of their status as illegals, and yes I say illegals.  I’m  not going to sugar coat it with the politically correct term, undocumented, even if that means I can’t be a card carrying liberal anymore.  

            But I’m still not stepping foot in Arizona as long as I have to bring my birth certificate and passport with me in case I don’t look American enough for Arizona law enforcement officers. Especially considering the absurdity of the continuing nonsense down there over presidential birth certificates. Like most of us, I’d bring the kind of copy we use for all official purposes but which they might claim, as so many of them do in the case of Obama’s, isn’t enough.

            1. emphasizing that the AZ law is a mess and an affront to freedom and America and certainly (notwithstanding how the activist 5 might see it at the Supremes) unconstitutional.

              However, the fact remains–in my–mind that no wall, fence, increased border patrols, armies or otherwise (perhaps unless taken to some terrible extreme, but probably not even then) will prevent people from seeking better work where they can easily get it.

              Until we address the underlying economic and social issues, on both sides of the border, this will be the case.  

              The history of humanity is told in its migrations just as the history of language is told in the mingling of tongues.

              But I won’t get started on ‘English Only.’

              1. Our firm does a lot of environmental work and the problem with a border fence is it seriously interferes with migratory animals.  Put up a ten foot fence and a illegal immigrant will just use an 11-foot ladder.  The Sinaloan Jaguarundi (upon whose behalf we are currently suing Ken Salazar) is less adept at crossing such artificial barriers.  Only a real ID and employer sanctions offer much hope of stopping illegal immigration.  The fence just wastes money and wrecks the environment.  

                1. is your firm involved at all with the death of Macho B? AZ Game and Fish Dept has changed their story so many times, I can’t keep up. Is it just the Feds handling that?

                  1. Our firm, now reorganized as the Mile High Law Office, has as one of our clients WildEarth Guardians.  We have a number of suits settled or pending against the Fish and Wildlife Service to force compliance with the Endangered Species Act.  I am not an attorney but, as a paralegal, did some of the legal research as well as cite-checking and proofreading our complaints.

                    1. The last one known in the wild in Arizona.  Our client WildEarth Guardians is suing on behalf of the Jaguarundi, a different species (somewhat of a smaller scale Jaguar.)  There is a lot of overlap in their habitat as is mentioned in the “Listed Cats of the Southwest, with Emphasis on the Ocelot” recovery plan that forms the heart of our litigation.   My daughter, Misty Ewegen, is the lead attorney.

  2. It finally brings many issues to a constitutional test.   The questions include:

    1) What papers do you have to carry if you were born in the United States?

    2) Can you be deported if you have an expired driver license, even if you were born in the United States?

    3) How do police identify  an illegal immigrant? For these groups:

     -Irish illegals number in the millions…left over from IRA days

     -What about refugess from the Soviet Union…are they all legal?

    –  What about the wealth of immigrants from war-torn countries in Africa?

    My grandparents were resident aliens.  What does that make me?  How do I prove my citizenship?  If the citizenship of the president of the united states is being questioned, what chance do I have?

    These questions are not rhetorical.  These are legitimate.

    Should one carry one’s passport at all times?  What about identify theft?  How can I prove I am me, if someone has stolen my ID????

    1. I’m a swarthy Jew who could be mistaken for something “other” and I’m not planning to schlep my birth certificate and passport with me for the privilege of enduring 116 degrees and a potentially suspicious reception.  

      1. This law brings justice for jobs, here’s what the AP has for a summary:

        Key provisions of Arizona’s immigration law, which will take effect by late July or August:

        1. Makes it a crime under state law to be in the country illegally by requiring immigrants to have proof of their immigration status. Violations are a misdemeanor punishable by up to six months in jail and a fine of up to $2,500. Repeat offenses would be a felony.

        2. Requires police officers to “make a reasonable attempt” to determine the immigration status of a person if there is a “reasonable suspicion” that he or she is an illegal immigrant.

        3. Requires that race, color or national origin may not be the only things considered in implementation. Exceptions can be made if the attempt would hinder an investigation.

        4. Allows lawsuits against local or state government agencies that have policies that hinder enforcement of immigration laws. Would impose daily civil fines of $1,000 to $5,000. There is pending follow-up legislation to halve the minimum to $500.

        5. Targets hiring of illegal immigrants as day laborers by prohibiting people from stopping a vehicle on a road to offer employment and by prohibiting a person from getting into a stopped vehicle on a street to be hired for work if it impedes traffic.

      2. My wife has a slight accent and always forgets her wallet. If we were having a conversation as we walked past a traffic cop, I might never see her again.

      1. but isn’t that one of the standards they operated under?  If you had a “reasonable suspicion” about your neighbor you were supposed to report?  And if the “reasonable suspicion” standard is okay, then why don’t we pass laws to apply it to situations other than national heritage.  Lots of possibilities.

      2. the concept of “reasonable suspicion” is now a part of Supreme Court jurisprudence (though, as you say, not referred to in the Constitution), as the basis for “Terry Stops”, which is lighter constitutional restraint for stops and pat downs of people the police find engaged in suspicious activities. It’s justification was police officer safety.

        1. the application of “reasonable suspicion” to illegal immigrant status is completely untenable, an invitation to racial profiling and harassment of Latinos and people who look enough like Latinos, and is beyond the scope of the jurisprudence mentioned above, which is based strictly on suspicious behavior.

          1. I spent a lot of time in Europe, when there was still an Iron Curtain as a kid when my dad–a career officer–served there.

            He always taught me that our constitutional freedoms are what separate ‘us’ from ‘them.’  “In East Germany,” he would say (we lived in Stuttgart) they can stop you on the street, because you look suspicious, and demand papers.  They encourage neighbors to spy on each other.”  

            What AZ has done is unconscionable.  It is not my America.

            1. Most amazing of all is that it is largely the same people who claim that creating regulatory regimes in order to, say, provide universal health is tantamount to totalitarianism, while stopping people on the streets and demanding that they show their papers because of the color of their presumed ethnic identity is just hunky-dory (all I can think of is the scene from The Great Escape, when Sir Richard Attenburgh and David McCallum were on the train as the Gestapo came looking at everyone’s papers). There are forces in this country that push hard in the direction of a deep and dangerous ugliness.

              By the way, I was stationed in West Germany in 1982-84, first in Wildflecken near the Czech border, and then in Aschaffenburg. My girlfriend lived first in Heidelberg right off the fussgangerzone, and then inbetween Heidelberg and Mannheim. Between that, and army maneuvers, I got to know southern Germany quite well.

              I used to hike down from our remote hill/mountain in Wildflecken and up the next remote hill/mountain to the nearest monastery, with their wonderful biergarten which attracted folks from dozens of miles around. Sometimes, it’s far more pleasant to think of that time and place than this one.

            2. I thought  I had already posted this, but evidently did not.

              I grew up an army brat.  Went to American dependent school in Nurnberg during the 50s.  In order to get on post, where the snack bar and Youth Center was, we had to show our AGO card at the gate.

              (god only knows what AGO stood for)  However, the African-American kids did not have to show their AGO cards, because everyone knew they were American.  

              1. I sat with a father and his five year old son (as you know, strangers often sit at the same tables). The father and I were speaking in English. The son asked the father about me, and the father said (in German, of course) “he’s an American.” The little boy looked confused and said, “But he’s not black.” (Obviously, the caucasian American soldiers he undoubtedly frequently saw on the streets in their civvies just blended in for him).

    1. 1) Do NOT get or maintain a tan.

      2) wear new (nike) basketball shoes.

      3) speak broadcast English

      4) carry with you not just your Colo DL but also your SS card and Birth certificate(NOT certificate of live birth) but the certificate with your baby footprints on it.

      5) cut your hair

      6) Never ever order tacos, burritos or any drink with Tequila in it.

      actually your best bet is to just not go.

      2. I do not have my original birth certificate.  All I have is a certificate of live birth issued by my state of birth about about 8 years ago,.

        I look slavic or russian or just odd.  And, as I have said many time, I live, blessedly, in a house of many colors.  

        2. Birth Certificates need to be certified by the issuing state or territory to be valid.  Any old birth certificate, say one from Hawaii just after it became a state and kept in the family safe deposit box ever since issued, is not good enough. You need a new one that has the good as real stamp/seal on it.

          1. You need a new one that has the good as real stamp/seal on it.

            My certificate has a stamp on it, but no doctor’s name….so hence one of my questions;  Who decides what is authentic…..and as for that old birth certificate kept in the family lock box, I have a couple of those for people in the family.  Are you telling me that they are no good?  And, on whose authority do you make these declarations?

            I know you are trying to be helpful, but a link or a source would be helpful.

            Thanks.

            1. what you obtained 8 years ago is good for any official purpose.  It may not be good for appeasing loony birthers but most of them probably have nothing more official, not that they would need to. Just what it is that Arizona is asking for Presidents to produce is a mystery.  Obama could get anything or register for anything that requires a birth certificate (don’t let the certificate of live birth wording throw you.  It’s fine) with the raised seal copy he posted on the internet in any state in the United States of America.

              I doubt that Arizona has, up to now, been the only exception.  But they are so crazy down there who knows what they’d do if you showed them your perfectly legit certificate today after everything they’ve all been reading on the crazy town blogs?  

              I suggest we all stay out of Arizona for as long as they insist on being such a pain in the ass.  Have your relatives visit you in beautiful Colorado.

        3. I never leave the US.  But I have a US passport because it establishes US Citizenship and identity.  Plus, if I suddenly have a need to travel I have it ready to go and the things are relatively inexpensive for how many years they’re good for.

          And they heck of a lot more convenient than carrying around a birth certificate or something.

        4. You and millions of other people.  As long as it is a raised seal copy it is accepted for every official purpose, social security, passports, voter registration, you name it. The ultimate original is not in your drawer or safe deposit box at all but on file where you were born so this “original” nonsense is much manufactured ado about nothing.  

        1. But I guess if you were jaundiced and ate a lot of carrots?  I’m still not entirely convinced that Boehner is not an alien due to the latex look of his skin and would like to see his original birth certificate. He kind of looks like his own bobble head doll.

  5. Let me preface this by saying I’m finishing p a rather exhaustive study of prisoner of war conditions during WWII. My father in law was at Stalag Luft III for a few years. We have gained access to many unpub;lished first person reports of life in the POW camps. The conditions described below in AZ are very similar to what I have been studying about German POW camps:

    *******************************************

    I’ve never served a sentence before, and I was relieved to go to a tent outdoors after all of those hours in cells.

    “I can do this,” I thought.

    There were fences around me, but the sky is still infinite. That’s about where the charm ends.

    The tents are old, single-ply, canvas army surplus, most with holes in the sides and tops. Inmates stuff sheets and blankets into the holes against the cold November desert breezes. Side zippers are broken, doors are torn.

    Because of age, faulty manufacture, and amateurish tent-raising, most don’t reach the ground on the sides. Aside from the orderly arrangements of the slabs of concrete on which they are constructed, they are reminiscent of slums I’ve seen in Bombay with their multicolored rags stuffed against the weather. In mid-November, when airport lows were reported at freezing, early-morning temperatures were at least 5 degrees lower.

    “Heat” is provided by one portable indoor space heater per tent, ankle-high and approximately 3 feet long. They must be seen and experienced to appreciate their ridiculous inadequacy.

    Most, if not all, of the inmates are sick with a flulike malady we called “the Estrella crud.” I am one of those fortunates who rarely get sick, but during the aforementioned weekend, I shivered with fever all of one Saturday, with another concerned inmate bringing me chicken soup and hot chocolate from a vending machine in the dorm – which, incidentally, is a breach of rules: No food or drink in the yard. Within a few years of operation, Estrella’s pebble-and-sand yard should be effectively paved with the congealing expectorations from hacking residents.

    The conditions of the “Porta-Johns” is repelling. I went into the dorm to urinate but decided to return to the portable toilets after looking at the conditions of the inside. I watched urine/fluid trickle from the overflowing seat of the plastic urinal.

    It rained the second weekend – I luckily had no leaks directly above me, but others weren’t so lucky – which left three portable toilets sitting in a large puddle of rainwater and who knows what else.

    I was puzzled on my fourth weekend by the uncharacteristic early cleaning of the johns Saturday morning – i.e. before the were full. My confusion dissipated when I saw documentary cameras on the roof that afternoon. The word on the yard was that it was the BBC.

    h/t digby

      1. This plus the new “you ain’t like us” law, plus the AZ House’s vote to insist that Obama produce his birth certificate before being allowed on the AZ ballot in 2012, kinda adds up to a voting population that’s a little scary.

    1. Shades of withholding until they recognized MLK.

      I think it’s less likely as there are so few latino players compared to African-Americans.

      1. The zeitgeist isn’t there yet. The fact that poor families in search of opportunity have the gall to cross a line in the sand, a line drawn by our violent pursuit of our own interests through opportunistic warfare, seems to justify all sorts of inhumanities that we would have difficulty justifying otherwise. Never mind the fact that those inhumanities will be directed against many who never crossed that line in the sand; it’s disgusting either way.

    1. doesn’t mean that none on the right ever do. Nor does it tell us anything about relative rates of doing so, or how integral doing so is to the respective movements. Sometimes you have to consider what protestors are protesting, as well as how they’re protesting.

      I don’t think “I hope she chokes” is ever appropriate or defensible. Big demerit there. But, arguably, people who protest (holding how they are protesting constant) against a living symbol of advocacy for social disintegration, a movement away from a society based on mutual legal responsibility and support and toward a society (hypocritically) based on social darwinism, are less hateful on that measure than people who promote laws which increase economic inequality and social injustice, and obstruct laws designed to create safety nets that we can all benefit from.

      There’s plenty of hate and anger on both sides of the divide. There are people on the left who I am ashamed to be around due to the venom of their tone and rhetoric. There are people on the left who use politics as a pretext to express their own vitriol and vent their own rage. All of that is true.

      And I don’t think that it’s a very fruitful debate to argue which side has more anger and hatred in its methodology, in how it pursues its ideological agenda. Arguments can be made, but they invite refutations like the one above, and are a distraction from the main issue: Which positions are substantively more, and more wisely, committed to “promot(ing) the general welfare” (as our constitution declares our commitment to be)? That angy people, and some who are simply a**holes, will pop up on both sides is a given.

  10. Mary Kay Henry won the majority vote against over Anna Burger (former SEIU President Stern’s protegee.)

    Ought to prove to be an interesting choice since even union insiders don’t know what direction her leadership is headed.

    Henry remains a largely unknown quantity on the national political scene, and some officials predicted that she would allow power to return from the Washington headquarters to scattered local unions; others suggested she’d emerge as a charismatic, central figure in Stern’s tradition.

  11. “I’m not sure how you can really justify” trying to tackle immigration or energy reform this year, Sen. Saxby Chambliss, R-Georgia, told CNN’s “State of the Union.”

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITI…

    OK, so the year is 1/3 over and Mr. Chambliss is tired of legislating.  

    What then are we paying Sen. Chambliss for?

    According to his website, here are the top ten listed pieces of Mr. Chambliss’ legislation:

    1. S.CON.RES.52 : A concurrent resolution expressing support for the designation of March 20 as a National Day of Recognition for Long-Term Care Physicians.

    Sponsor: Sen Chambliss, Saxby [GA] (introduced 3/2/2010)      Cosponsors (None)

    2. S.RES.15 : A resolution acknowledging the lifelong service of Griffin Boyette Bell, a legal icon, to the State of Georgia and to the United States.

    Sponsor: Sen Chambliss, Saxby [GA] (introduced 1/16/2009)      Cosponsors (6)

    3. S.RES.78 : A resolution designating March 22, 2009, as “National Rehabilitation Counselors Appreciation Day”.

    Sponsor: Sen Chambliss, Saxby [GA] (introduced 3/18/2009)      Cosponsors (1)

    4. S.RES.211 : A resolution supporting the goals and ideals of “National Life Insurance Awareness Month”.

    Sponsor: Sen Chambliss, Saxby [GA] (introduced 7/15/2009)      Cosponsors (2)

    5. S.296 : A bill to promote freedom, fairness, and economic opportunity by repealing the income tax and other taxes, abolishing the Internal Revenue Service, and enacting a national sales tax to be administered primarily by the States. Sponsor: Sen Chambliss, Saxby [GA] (introduced 1/22/2009)      Cosponsors  (4)

    6. S.494 : — Private Bill; A bill for the relief of Salah Naji Sujaa.

    Sponsor: Sen Chambliss, Saxby [GA] (introduced 2/26/2009)      Cosponsors (None)

    7. S.644 : A bill to amend title 10, United States Code, to include service after September 11, 2001, as service qualifying for the determination of a reduced eligibility age for receipt of non-regular service retired pay.

    Sponsor: Sen Chambliss, Saxby [GA] (introduced 3/19/2009)      Cosponsors (13)

    8. S.742 : A bill to expand the boundary of the Jimmy Carter National Historic Site in the State of Georgia, to redesignate the unit as a National Historical Park, and for other purposes.

    Sponsor: Sen Chambliss, Saxby [GA] (introduced 3/30/2009)      Cosponsors (3)

    9. S.1071 : A bill to protect the national security of the United States by limiting the immigration rights of individuals detained by the Department of Defense at Guantanamo Bay Naval Base.

    Sponsor: Sen Chambliss, Saxby [GA] (introduced 5/19/2009)      Cosponsors (8)

    10. S.1348 : A bill to recognize the heritage of hunting and provide opportunities for continued hunting on Federal public land.

    Sponsor: Sen Chambliss, Saxby [GA] (introduced 6/25/2009)      Cosponsors (15)

    http://chambliss.senate.gov/pu…

    Most of his other legislation is a gift to Dahlonega–renown for it’s carpet manufacturers.  

    Way to really move important issues Senator.  Good thing you are living off the taxpayers’ dimes.

    1. First, if you can’t multi-task don’t run for Congress, and don’t expect the American people to pay you big bucks to serve in office.  What’s really amazing is that he expects people to fall for his crap — we need to work on the budget, he says, before we work on anything else, and certainly no more than one issue at a time.  This is the kind of person we are electing under our current big-money, corporate system.

  12. Feeling Warehoused in Army Trauma Care Units

    But interviews with more than a dozen soldiers and health care professionals from Fort Carson’s transition unit, along with reports from other posts, suggest that the units are far from being restful sanctuaries. For many soldiers, they have become warehouses of despair, where damaged men and women are kept out of sight, fed a diet of powerful prescription pills and treated harshly by noncommissioned officers. Because of their wounds, soldiers in Warrior Transition Units are particularly vulnerable to depression and addiction, but many soldiers from Fort Carson’s unit say their treatment there has made their suffering worse.

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