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September 24, 2010 04:16 PM UTC

Will Personhood endorsers withdraw support, taking a cue from Buck?

  • 31 Comments
  • by: Jason Salzman

(This was in our queue of items to write about, but Mr. Salzman beat us to it. Our clip of the comments in question added – promoted by Colorado Pols)

In a KBDI Channel 12 debate Sept. 17, News4 reporter Terry Jessup asked Gualberto Garcia Jones of  Personhood Colorado about GOP support for the Personhood initiative, Amendment 62.

“I mean there’s no one out there with the possible exception of Ken Buck that has talked about this much,” Jessup asked Gualberto. “Why is that?”

Jessup is right that candidates aren’t talking about Personhood much, at least in front of reporters, but plenty of them have endorsed the measure.

As Jones pointed out in response to Jessup:

“One of the changes that we saw from this amendment from the last amendment in 2008 is that we have had at least had tacit endorsement from every major GOP candidate out there. Every candidate that calling himself pro-life is saying personhood is the way to go. And to me that’s a great in roads. Ken Buck is willing to stand up for a child conceived in rape. That takes guts, and I really appreciate that.”

“Tacit” support is hard to pin down, but here’s a list below of candidates (32 Republicans and Tancredo) on record as endorsing the measure, according to surveys by the Christian Family Alliance of Colorado and/or Colorado Right to Life.

Now that the Personhood issue is making headlines, Jessup and other reporters should ask the candidates who have endorsed Personhood whether they will take a cue from Buck and alter their position on the measure.

Buck, you recall, backtracked because he said he didn’t understand that the initiative would ban common forms of birth control, like the Pill and IUDs. First Buck said he supported Amendment 62, then his campaign said he opposed it, and most recently he said he’s neutral on it.

LIST OF COLORADO CANDIDATES WHO’VE ENDORSED THE PERSONHOOOD AMENDMENT, ALL GOP EXCEPT TOM TANCREDO, NOT INCLUDING MUNICIPAL RACES

Ken Buck (U.S. SENATE – now says he’s neutral)

Dan Maes (Governor)

Tom Tancredo (Governor)

Cory Gardner (Congress)

Sue Sharkey (CU Regent)

Colorado SENATE Candidates

Greg Brophy (SD 1)

Kevin Grantham (SD 2)

Vera Ortegon (SD 3)

Wayne Wolf (SD 5)

Steve King (SD 7)

Kent Lambert (SD 9)

Scott Renfroe (SD 13)

Kevin Lundberg (SD 15)

Timothy Leonard (SD 16)

Mike Kopp (SD 22)

Tedd Harvey (SD 30)

Colorado HOUSE candidates

Mark Barker (HD 17)

Libby Szabo (HD 27)

Jim Kerr (HD 28)

Kaarl Hoopes (HD 32)

Brian Vande Krol (HD 34)

Edgar Antillon (HD 35)

Kathleen Conti (HD 38)

Frank McNulty (HD 43)

Chirs Holbert (HD 44)

Steve Rodriguez (HD 46)

Glenn Vaad (HD 48)

BJ Nikkel (HD 49)

Ray Scott (HD 54)

Randy Baumgardner (HD 57)

Mark Rogers (HD 58)

John Becker (HD 63)

Jerry Sonnenberg (HD 65)

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31 thoughts on “Will Personhood endorsers withdraw support, taking a cue from Buck?

  1. one ejaculate stream would have a couple million “persons” in it.

    to add insult to injury…

    All those women that would be devastated once having a miscarriage. Then be prosecuted for it under this measure.

    Don’t even think of Birth control, the “person-hood amendment” would outlaw most forms.

    Freedom ends at the entrance to the bedroom door with this one.

    republicans truly are insane.

    1. Only after the sperm enters an egg is a person created under the amendment.  It’s ridiculous enough, no need to try to make it sound worse than it is.

        Of course, you’re still going to hell for masturbation.  We have that on the authority of the U.S. Senate Candidate from Delaware.  Unless, of course, you did it without lust.

      1. Of course, you’re still going to hell for masturbation.  We have that on the authority of the U.S. Senate Candidate from Delaware.  Unless, of course, you did it without lust

        I think I’ll choose going to Hell–at least the people will be more interesting.  

            1. for their hypocrisy.

                How would you like to spend eternity with those creeps?

                Heaven, on the other hand, could work out.  If it’s real and I make it, if the first words I hear are

              Your dog is really eager to see you!

  2. What total abortion bans do to normal women’s healthcare:

    The enforcement of the antiabortion law here in Guanajuato has created what critics call a climate in which any pregnancy that does not end with a healthy baby raises suspicions about the mother.

    The fear of being investigated means that even some women who want to be pregnant but have complications or lose the baby “have to think twice about going to a hospital,”

  3. In 2008, Democrats were able to turn small differences between pro-life people into division, in part using this blog to plant the messages. It’s not working this year. Right to Life is not going to torpedo Buck for doing what he has to do to get elected. They’re smart enough to take ‘close enough’ from Buck, and they are right.

    Sorry, Pols propagandists! No dice this time.

  4. is towards this issue.  Tell them one thing to get the nomination then pretend like he is having second thoughts about it to fool moderate all the time letting his base know that winky wink he is still one of them even though he professes not to be.  You can bet he understands his extremism is the minority opinion otherwise he wouldn’t be weaseling his support for this amendment.

  5. Conti, R candidate in HD38 listed here as endorsing 62, also believes that the Colorado Bureau of Investigation needs to make it their priority #1 to search for terrorist camps she imagines are all over Colorado rather than, say, spending time solving the 1,714 unsolved cold cases on the books.  

    That came in the mail today with several pro-Rice mailings (all citing taxes he voted against and two citing bronze star heroism in Iraq) and we got the same anti-Conti message about imaginary terrorist training camps via robo-call from different group.  

    Most of the mailings and the call were not from the campaign but from various groups including two from a Realtor Candidate Pac. Looks like the serious spending has kicked in and that questionable early poll showing Conti with a lead will be a distant memory long before Joe swats her out of his path in November just as or more easily than he defeated his two past opponents in an HD that hadn’t seen a Dem win for 35 years before Joe first won in 2006. Never saw a Dem re-elected until Joe was in 2008.  

    The anti-Conti mailing (from Our Colorado Values which also cites Conti wanting to cut social security benefits and give the money to Wall Street) has a check the facts box that includes, among other sources, ColoradoPols.com

    As badly as the last personhood amendment did here and considering that we always say yes to our schools, museum and library, passing requested mill levies by wide margins and also easily passed referendum C, you have to wonder why Rs think they can get this HD back with a rightie fringe wacko lady against a moderate, small business friendly war hero.

    1. There weren’t many people stepping up to the plate

      Joe Rice is as respected in the GOP, as he is with the Dems, because not many candidates felt they could defeat him

      Dave Kerber would’ve been a great choice, but he’s very dedicated to Chairing Arapahoe County

      I’m proud of Conti for stepping up – it won’t be an easy race, but nothing in politics is

      1. If your dear candidate Conti stumbles across your group out in the woods she might mistake your group for one o’ them terrorist training camps and call the po-lice on y’all.

          1. You have to do everything you would have to do at home only it’s much more work. At least that’s the way it seems to work out for moms. For vacations, give me a nice hotel room with good mattresses, better showers and no cooking or cleaning any day. I’ll commune with nature on day trips.

            She’s still a not terribly bright fringe wacko, though.

  6. In running for State Treasurer, I spoke to almost all major Conservative activists

    Of everyone out there, the activists and leadership that was MOST open-minded and kind to me, on the basis of my religion and race, were the Personhood people – Garcia Jones and his supporters are the best Coloradans in the world – open minded and full of love

    Regarding Personhood, I proudly signed the petition to get it on the ballot, as I believe that the public should have a vote for it – voting-wise, I still remain conflicted, as I have all year

    As a man of faith, the Quran says that God does not breathe life into the womb until after 3 months, so technically, I’m pro-choice for months 1 to 3 – I like the goals of Personhood, but I fear the consequences of back alley abortions, which only makes the problem worse, and ultimately and most importantly, a woman should have the right to do what she wants with her body

    Overall though, I wish all Conservative/Republican groups in Colorado ran themselves with the kind of class and integrity that the people at Personhood do – Republicans in the State have much to learn from the class that the folks at Personhood display

    Lastly – my compliments are NOT directed at Colorado Right To Life – after dealing with them, I question whether CRTL have any convictions, based on the fact that they pick and choose which politicians they want to support, irrelevant of abortion stance, and blindly stand by those politicians, even after they’ve sold out the pro-life movement

    1. Jewish tradition allowed abortion until quickening, when the mother can first feel movement, which roughly corresponds to after the first trimester. Well into the 1800s the same was true here. Not saying that because something has been an apparently common folk tradition it should never change. It’s just interesting.

      Of course Sharia or Hebraic law or even early American folk ways shouldn’t determine what’s legal. Wife beating as a legal right and slavery have been long and widely established traditions and no one misses those.  Likewise, I don’t want to have modern conservative Christians imposing their views on me. I’m all for anyone who thinks all abortion is wrong not having one. Beyond that, I’d like them to stop trying to impose their interpretation of their particular religion on anyone else.

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