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October 09, 2010 03:12 PM UTC

Weekend Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“The hardest metal yields to sufficient heat.”

–Mohandas Gandhi

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  1. http://www.gjsentinel.com/news…

    Tancredo is expected to announced that, if elected, he will name Mesa County Commissioner Craig Meis to serve on the Colorado Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, and appoint state Sen. Greg Brophy, R-Wray, to oversee the Colorado Department of Natural Resources.

    Meis never saw a drilling pond he didn’t like and Brophy knows as much about Natural Resources as my black lab.  

  2. It looks like the tree waster Singleton has now gone completely in to the swamp. CD7 has one of the best Representatives in Congress. Ed represents us, not corporate special interests, not teabaggers and especially not those ready and willing to sell America to China.

    Why would Singleton not endorse Perlmutter for reelection? Simple. Ed represents Dems, working people, veterans, and that other group Singleton hates with a frothing passion – Labor. Dare to support Labor and working families Dean will do everything in his power to destroy you.

    I support Ed Perlmutter because he is a good representative for me and you.  He does not live on the wrong side of ethical behavior, he is a someone to vote for for standing up and voting for America, not China.

    1. Perhaps Singleton does not think being a lap dog for the Obama/Pelosi economic agenda was in the best interest of the district.  Perlmuter may be a wonderful guy.  His voting record sucks.

      1. Frazier is the best choice for this split Metro Denver district. Bring balance to Washington is critical.

        Markey and Perlmutter have been complete toadies for Pelois-Obama agenda. I think the Post sees Ed and Betsy as having helped move forward the job killing government-centric policies without regard to the benefit for America as a nation.

        http://www.denverpost.com/opin…

        I suspect the Post is also so anti Union that it is trying to withhold a Bennet endorsement until he commits to voting no on card check … otherwise he fits their mold of bought and paid for legislator willing to crank up taxes wherever so that favored expenditures can be handed out.

            1. Bennet has been a rock solid YES-man for the overreach Obama-Pelosi agenda. Bennet’s backed cap-and-trade that will drive up consumer energy costs and consumer prices.

              He’s bet his election on his Obamacare votes, these actions have not only closed healthcare choice, but have driven costs higher.

              Bennet’s looking for a compromise on the “card check” bill.

              Worse he’s backed the wasteful $1 trillion stimulus, crushed banks and consumers with new regulations and now wonders in his ads “what do we have to show for it?”

      2. Has there been an endorsement by Singleton in CD7?

        Let me remind you, I have been prohibited by my ophthalmologist from head butting…..so I will not reply to this thread….although it is real hard to keep from banging my head against the wall.

  4. from The Atlantic

    Rich Iott, the Republican nominee for Congress from Ohio’s 9th District, and a Tea Party favorite, who for years donned a German Waffen SS uniform and participated in Nazi re-enactments.

    Iott, whose district lies in Northwest Ohio, was involved with a group that calls itself Wiking, whose members are devoted to re-enacting the exploits of an actual Nazi division, the 5th SS Panzer Division Wiking, which fought mainly on the Eastern Front during World War II.

    Keep in mind that an SS division (distinct from the Army) on the Eastern Front was the Nazis at their worst. They did not take prisoners. They murdered civilians wholesale and left the rest to starve after taking all their food.

    And this is who he chooses to reenact…

    1. That would be the Einsatzgruppen. But nearly every German, regardless of whether he was regular army, SS, or Gestapo was a war criminal on the Eastern Front. (The 5th SS Panzer Division Wiking participated in the rounding up of Jews for the Einsatzgruppen, and Dr. Josef Mengele served with that division early on in the war, albeit in a strict care-giving capacity.)

      Yeah, having any voluntary association with such a group is sickening.

    2. Don’t Nazi fanboys deserve representation?  Wouldn’t having one serving in Ohio’s delegation “bring balance to Washington?”  Genocidal maniacs need represenatation too.

  5. from HuffPo

    State and local governments laid off nearly 58,000 teachers and other education workers in September, the government announced on Friday. The layoffs happened even though some have said the $26 billion bill passed by Congress in August was nothing but a sop for teacher unions.

    How on earth are we better off with fewer teachers and more crowded classrooms? Especially when the layoffs are done based on seniority and so we’ve dumped all the new teachers we will need as the existing ones retire.

    2. “I don’t want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub.” – Grover Norquist

      1. the republicans Wish to dismantle the United states government from within.

        Whilst unfairly projecting that goal upon Democrats.

        their tac is twofold.

        never mind the obvious obstructionist tactics of the tea bag republicans. those tactics are meant to deny President Obama ANY credit for returning America to Greatness. Whilst at the same time reducing America to a third world country. once that goal is achieved (along with laying the blame on Democrats) then the republicans are free to remake America into the hell Their ideology leads to.

  7. Last week Brown and/or his other senior campaign folk are taped referring to his opponent, Whitman, as a whore.  Later the same week NOW comes out and endorses Brown.

    Why would any Republican woman support a group like NOW?

    1. I’m aware of Brown’s stupid remarks, but I also know he’s long been a proponent of women’s issues. Is a private but recorded and disseminated remark enough to erase that record? No.

      Unless Whitman has a similar record (and IIRC this is her first run for office) then there’s no reason for NOW to endorse Whitman.

    2. to make medical and moral decisions for them or their daughters.  In truth I was never a member of NOW but as hard as it is for you to believe there are/were Republican women for choice.  I was one of them.

      1. My guess is about 1/2 the people in the Republican party are pro-choice.  I am.  I don’t wear it on my sleave and I don’t think there is any real risk to Rowe v Wade rights so I don’t see it as a current issue for me.  

        I think groups like NOW lose all credibility when they hear a candidate disparage women and turn around and support them as if that was of no importance. Women’s rights and reproductive rights are not identical.

        1. Master of the false assumption.

          How is calling one woman a whore disparaging women in general?

          p.s.  re:

          I don’t think there is any real risk to Rowe v Wade

          I agree with your first three words.

          1. 1) Referring to a woman in that manner evidences an attitude which is inconsistent with treating women with respect.

            2) The Supreme Court has this concept called Stare Decisis (sp?) which essentially treats prior decisions with deference.  The essence of the case, that during the first trimester an abortion is permitted, is to me clearly established Constituional law and not likely to change.

            To radicals with an agenda, the castle is always under imminent seige. That is how they raise money and what gives them their overblown sense of self-importance.

              1. Great argument.  

                Let me see:

                Referring to someone as a “N word” in politics is not the same as referring to blacks as “N word”.

                Referring to someone as a “fill in the blank for your favorite ethnic group to trash and the slur associated with them” in politics is not the same as referring to “your favorite trashed ethnic group” as “your favorite trashed ethnic group slur”

                Perhaps we can aim a little higher for our political leaders?

                1. Do tell us how being sensitive to the 9/11 families discomfort with an Islamic cultural center in the WTC neighborhood doesn’t support the bigoted notion that ALL Muslims are terrorists?

                  You can defend the delicate sensibilities of blacks and women but not Muslims, eh?

            2. Last week Brown and/or his other senior campaign folk are taped referring to his opponent, Whitman, as a whore

              No media report suggests it was Brown who said this, making your “and/or” statement typical Repugnicon dishonesty.  How do you sleep at night? Oh I know, because defending the honor of women everywhere allows you to feel better for your lying.

              Whitman purportedly promised a pension protection deal in return for an endorsement.  Selling one’s honor to the highest bidder is what whores do, no?  

              As for Stare Decisis, did you hear about Citizens United?  This SCOTUS has no interest in precedent that does not agree with its agenda, and the center vote on this 5-4 pro-choice court is Anthony Kennedy, whose opinion in Gonzales v. Carhartt was dripping with paternalism justifying Congress outlawing what a woman’s doctor might feel was the safest medical procedure for her, because she might regret it later.

              When you refer to “radicals with an agenda”, do you mean the notion that a woman might be able to obtain an abortion in her community with a minimum of state interference?  Because that “radical agenda” is under constant threat by state laws.  Whether Roe survives or not, laws which forbid insurance carriers from providing liability coverage to abortion providers, or reporting requirements which mandate posting such detailed demographic information to public websites that make it obvious who the patient is even if their name is redacted, continually press the limits of what constitutes an undue burden on her rights.

              Should military women abroad have the same right to legal abortion as their stateside counterparts?  What should abortion coverage look like under Healthcare Reform?  These are issues that have nothing to do with Roe, but are central to the rights you pay lip service to.

              According to you, Roe is safe, so these are just fundraising ploys.  Do you believe half the crap you write?

              1. The media report I heard indicated it was unclear whether it was Brown or his staff which is why I wrote it that way.  I heard it on Fox.  I am sure Brown can clear that up by identifying who said it. And thanks for asking, I got a good night’s sleep last night.

                I have heard about Citiens United which as I understand affords first amendment protection for political speech of corporate entities.  Are you another one of those left wing whack jobs that think the first amendment should only protect union speech?  Frankly, I think our first amendment rights are very important and that all citizens should enjoy them. I am sorry you do not.

                  1. Has the Brown campaign identified the individual who referred to Whitman as a whore?

                    Or do they not want to do so because then they would be under pressure to fire them, if it was not Brown?

                    1. So anything that you’re thinking in response to what they reported is the wrong thing to think. Like these questions you’re asking.

            3. but that doesn’t mean that abortion’s foes aren’t trying every single trick to effectively if not actually ban the practice.

              It may not be an important issue to you, but it is to NOW, and Brown has the long record to prove it. This incident doesn’t erase that.

              Now, can we please get back to Colorado politics?

        2. but I don’t think it was Brown who made the statement.  If I understand the news broadcast I heard it was some of his people.  Frankly I don’t think this type of thing from either party candidate or his/her people has any place in intelligent debate but then I’m one of those throwbacks to a different age.

      1. If not, let me be the first to complement you on the classy posts you make.

        I am sure because they are directed at me that ColoradoPols thinks they are just fine.

  9. I know Jams was yesterday, but today is John Lennon’s 70th birthday.  Every copy of “Imagine” has embedding disabled.  So I’ll post this and dedicate it to…  (Well, you all know who you are.)

    1. Markey and Bennet are done.

      Salazar is very close, one of the 5-10 seats right now that could go either way. Both national parties are now throwing money at that race

      I expect some action in CD-7 by the time it is all said and done. I think that will be the nail biter. The DP endorsement of Frazier will help him and I think he is the sleeper candidate this cycle. Right now, 538 does not see CD-7 that way.

          1. A “victory” is when a candidate gets more votes than any other candidate in the same race.

            This lesson has been brought to you by the letter D and the number 365.

  11. Henhouse meet fox–well, perhaps that’s unfair to foxes.

    GRAND JUNCTION, Colo. — One of Mesa County’s own may soon be on gubernatorial candidate tom Tancredo’s team. Tancredo has selected a county commissioner to be in charge of the Colorado oil and gas conservation commission if he takes the governor’s seat.

    He picked commissioner Craig Meis for this role. Tancredo was in town explaining his motives to the voters. He says Meis has a lot of experience within the oil and gas is an industry and he’s perfect for the position.

    The Old Mesa County Courthouse was dotted with Tancredo signs. Inside, he spoke to residents.

    If the American Constitution Party candidate is elected come November, Republican Craig Meis will be in charge of overseeing the oil and gas activities in our state.

  12. Right.

    But a closer examination shows that there is little evidence that what the chamber does in collecting overseas dues is improper or even unusual, according to both liberal and conservative election-law lawyers and campaign finance documents.

    In fact, the controversy over the Chamber of Commerce financing may say more about the Washington spin cycle – where an Internet blog posting can be quickly picked up by like-minded groups and become political fodder for the president himself – than it does about the vagaries of campaign finance.

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