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January 21, 2011 04:48 PM UTC

Open Line Friday!

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“I have blown up Chinese culture, 3,000 years of it, in 18 seconds. Wait a minute. Let me do my John King at CNN impersonation. We’re really trying. We’re really trying! I apologize for the blown-up rhetoric. We’re trying to better here at the EIB Network. I did not mean ‘blow up’ Chinese culture, 3,000 years of it. We’re really trying here. It was a slip of the tongue. I take it back.”

–Rush Limbaugh, yesterday

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  1. (the term that Palin is suspected of lifting from a Wall Street Journal columnist’s defense of her, and using in her own video speech).

    Now the Wall Street Journal, in its ongoing op-ed defense of Sarah Palin, presents the perspective of one James Taranto, in his piece “Palinoia, the Destroyer; What’s behind the left’s deranged hatred.” It basically comes down to this: female jealousy or male misogyny:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/…

    For many liberal women, Palin threatens their sexual identity, which is bound up with their politics in a way that it is not for any other group (possibly excepting gays, though that is unrelated to today’s topic)…

    What about male Palin-hatred? It seems to us that it is of decidedly secondary importance. Liberal men put down Palin as a cheap way to score points with the women in their lives, or they use her as an outlet for more-general misogynistic impulses that would otherwise be socially unacceptable to express.

    Oh, and it’s apparently class warfare, too, according to this Wall Street Journal author. People also hate Sarah Palin because they’re snobs who went to more elitist schools than she did.  

    1. mistakes “conviction that she is an ignorant fool” for “hatred”.

      Feeding “deranged hatred” is what Palin does.

      Most of the Palin critics I know don’t hate her…they just think she is an inarticulate moron, trying to be something she is not…a leader.

    2. as part of Stephen’s advice to Morning Joe’s Mika B. It’s spot on and by no means misogynistic.

      “… she has nothing to offer the national dialogue and that her speeches are just coded talking points mixed in with words picked at random from a thesaurus.”

      “… she’s at best a self-promoting ignoramus and at worst a shameless media troll who’ll abuse any platform to deliver dog whistle encouragement to a far-right base that may include possible insurrectionists.”

      ” … her reality show was pathetically un-statesmenlike and at the same time … and also represents the pinnacle of her potential.”

      ” … and that her transparent desperation to be a celebrity so completely eclipsed her interest in public service so long ago that there would be more journalistic integrity in reporting on one of the lesser Khardasian “asset” plans.”

      ” … and that when you arrive at the office everyday you say a silent prayer that maybe, just maybe that Sarah Palin will at long last shut up for ten fucking minutes.”

    4. … some of the kinds of looney editorials one Nazi named Julius Streicher used to write. (Not Godwin’s, so don’t even go there.) Everything about the Jews was sexual with him, and it is here, too.

      News flash for the Palinistas: Liberals don’t “hate” or “fear” her any more than Rush. She has no future in elective office (quitting your job tends to undercut your credibility as a reformer – that’s a job that takes more than a four year term, never mind less than that), and she’s possibly blown her credibility as a pundit as well. She can push our buttons, but that’s about it.

      But maybe this guy has a point. I’ll see if talking smack about Palin “scores points” with Mrs. Aristotle or any of my female liberal friends and get back to you. (Do you thing he means sex? If so, I can only try it out on Mrs. Aristotle.)

    5. Since she first insulted me in 2008:

      I’m not one of those who maybe come from a background of, you know, kids who perhaps graduate college and their parents get ’em a passport and give ’em a back pack and say go off and travel the world. Noooo. I worked all my life… I was not, uh, a part of, I guess, that culture…

      When I graduated high school my parents sent me to a bike racing camp in Italy as a gift.  I went in late August, after working all summer to save money for college.  And I’ve worked all my life since I was 16.

      Everything she’s said since can be taken as the ramblings of an attention seeking troll; best ignored.  But that was personal.

      1. if you know anything about $ister $arah’s bio (which regretfully I’ve retained) then you might remember her 1st stop in her  wayward college years was off to HAWAII.

        Per “Going Rogue” her daddy & mom bid adeui so this lil’ eighteen-year-old Alaska girl could go enjoy the “perpetual sunshine” of Hawaii.

        So yeah she didn’t need a passport for Hawaii but in my pretty wide circle of friends NO ONE that quite made such a cultural leap from Alaska to Hawaii in our college experience.  Wasila to Hilo would have been just like trekking off to lands unknown for almost anyone but that must have been missed in Sarah’s little noggin.

        And as for that bullshit of “I worked all my life… I was not, uh, a part of, I guess, that culture …” I gotta call foul on Ms. Whitewash.

        She worked for a few months as an entry level fill-in sports commentator on local  TV and she wrote a few sports articles for a 3-times a seek paper serving a population area of 70,000 folks (about the size of Loveland) right out of college.  Then she eloped with Todd in August ’88 and popped out little Track in April ’89 (anyone wanna do the math on that?).

        Now I’m not, by any means, belittling the tireless work involved with motherhood but Caribou Barbie dishing her limited work experience to seem “every woman” doesn’t rate when I hold her up to the respected  career women & blue collar workers that I know and have worked with.  Sarah’s work life is pure arctic tundra BS.  

  3. Les Leopold

    Apple Corporation, for example, earned about $6 billion in 2009 by expertly engaging its 35,000 employees. (They went on to earn $6 billion in the last quarter of 2010 alone.) Along the way they offered us an array of popular new products that people are enjoying and putting to use. Appaloosa, the hedge fund, earned about as much as Apple in 2009 by speculating on god knows what. But it has fewer than 250 employees and it’s not at all clear what these individuals added to our economy — certainly not the iPad. How can 250 workers, no matter how wise and talented, produce as much real worth speculating on stuff as 35,000 Apple employees can make inventing, manufacturing and marketing useful products? They can’t. So hedge funds must be siphoning off wealth from elsewhere, not creating it themselves.

  4. While I’m surprised that Lord Cheney showed up during the light of day, HW Bush gets to take credit for the way the lead-up and execution of Gulf War 1 was handled.

    Probably because Bush was telling Cheney what to do, rather than the other way around:

    The 41st president was the main honoree at an event that drew 3,800, including many veterans and uniformed ROTC cadets, to a basketball arena down the road from his presidential library on Texas A&M’s campus. Operation Desert Shield was the buildup of troops in the region after the Aug. 2, 1990, invasion of Kuwait; Operation Desert Storm was the combat operation to liberate Kuwait that began Jan. 17, 1991.

    “My dear sweet mother, now in heaven, taught us as kids never to use braggadocio,” the elder Bush said, reading from a script. “…There are a few things I probably could have done better, but in the case of Desert Storm I honestly think history will say we got this one right.”

    http://www.politico.com/news/s…

    Unlike the goat-rope we got for Operation Cobra II, Desert Shield and Storm were well-planned, properly supported with logistics and the right unit mix, and most importantly, was a reaction to actual military threat.

    I do wonder what would’ve happened had he had let us (as in the US Military) finish the job the last day of the War. The mission was for 6th CB(AC) (an Air Cavalry unit made up entirely of AH-64 Apache Helicopters) to massacre all the mechanized and tank units fleeing ahead of their logistic/looter trains that were destroyed by TacAir.

    Would Iran have invaded after we left? Would Turkey then take the part that Iran didn’t want? Would the region have been different?  

    1. and handles it much better:

      http://www.economist.com/node/…

      While I know this is the Golden Bullseye for Conservatives, most of the state employees who are getting these pensions worked for much less than they could’ve on the open market in return for benefits at the end of their career.

      Telling them “tough shit” worked for private corporations when they bailed from their pension obligations, but it’s not going to work for this.

      I agree that they need to re-structure the way state’s pay out pensions, but that’s not a green like to screw over those workers who already retired…

      2. to the budget deficits certainly aren’t easy to come by and won’t be easy to execute.

        But reform of future compensation benefits is necessary, obvious, practical and reasonable.  Things like moving the retirement age from 55 to 60 should be a slam dunk.

        Being against reasonable reforms to benefits of future employees makes these unions look silly and unhinged from reality.

    2. to be able to file bankruptcy?

      State bankruptcy bill imminent, Gingrich says

      “But it has never been taken seriously until now because Republicans are insistent on doing nothing to help the states,” he told reporters on Friday. “I don’t think that is a realistic solution. I don’t believe it is a necessary solution.”

      …

      But along with the recession states are faced with permanent budget problems, including pension obligations they cannot cover estimated to total at least $700 billion.

      Filing for bankruptcy would allow them to renege on their pension promises and other obligations to state employees.

      “The very fact of the bill existing… allows governors to sit down with unions and say: ‘Look you, negotiate with us or I’m taking the state into bankruptcy,'” Gingrich said.

      http://www.reuters.com/article…

      Once the states blow off their pension obligations, the Republicans could probably press for some more billionaire tax cuts!!??

  9. A good catch this past week that almost slipped through the fingers of the blogosphere, courtesy of Forbes magazine blogger Rick Ungar: The Founding Fathers passed “socialized” health insurance in 1798.

    Titled An Act for the Relief of Sick and Disabled Seamen, the law mandated a 1% tax to be collected from all private marine sailors for the purpose of establishing Marine Hospitals which would accept government vouchers for payment.  Over time the program attracted several private hospitals to accept the vouchers, and it was eventually expanded to cover inland rivermen as well.

    The law was passed by the 5th Congress, led by Constitution signers Thomas Jefferson (Senate President) and Jonathon Dayton (House Speaker and the youngest signer of the Constitution), along with President John Adams.

    So, Tea Partiers and staunch Republicans…  The Founding Fathers apparently had no problem with mandated health insurance or government-run health care.  What do you have to say about that?

          1. It’s sufficiently retro that I could be considered stylish if I wore it out to the club.

            If it wasn’t one size too small and filled with stains from various Army posts across the world…

  11. maybe those of you using an Android phone will see it disappear if Oracle decides to sue…

    More evidence shows Google may have copied Oracle in Android

    Oracle’s claims that Google copied Sun’s Java code without permission in Android may have gained fuel on Friday. A separate search by Florian Mueller of the code (ZIP) has found more files than Oracle itself cited that appear to lift code directly. Among them, six files attached to Android 2.2 and 3.0 appear to have been extracted from Sun’s Java source code using a decompiler and simply grafted into the just-in-time Dalvik engine Android uses at its root.

    About 37 files were even marked as “proprietary/confidential” Sun files, and a separate file included in the code served as a copyright notice from Sun urging users not to distribute the material. Google has since claimed that Oracle was hiding code to make it look like more copying was involved, but Mueller noted that even open-sourced, GPL 2 parts code could have violated Sun (and now Oracle) rights after the latter’s code was distributed without its consent. He suggested that Oracle not only had a case but may have been conservative in presenting its evidence.

    “It seems to me that Oracle has not even presented the tip of the iceberg in its amended complaint,” Mueller said. “The discovery process could be very fruitful for Oracle, and may become dreadful for Google.”

    http://www.electronista.com/ar…

    If this is true, either Google is going to have to write one of those massive oversized checks to Oracle, or Oracle could seek a cease-and-desist in Federal court, and shut down every phone that uses that iOS….

      1. SAP forced to pay Oracle $1.3 billion for TommorowNow’s intellectual prop thieving and now Google is gonna have to pony up for cheating Java rights.  

        Sun learned when IBM slapped and sued for  RISC patent violations.  Sun learned to  lawyer up & reg Java patents to fend off hostiles (ie Microsoft).  

        Then Larry spends some pocket change to pick up Sun and its intellectual props so  nows he’s just protecting what’s his.  Larry isn’t known for warm fuzzies with his industry blokes but its business.  

        Oracle’s market cap nears $157B while Google’s estimated near $200B so no tears being shed if Larry & Sergey are forced to part w/ some ill-gotten gains of their own.  

    2. The consumer is considered not at fault; Google as potential offender – or perhaps the phone vendors as distributors, depending on various agreements – will assume the monetary risk for any infractions, and will have to stop shipments and alter their code if they’re found to have infringed.

      Oracle, I’m sure, is more interested in a piece of the Android pie than it is in shutting down the OS.  It doesn’t really have a place in the mobile devices market at all right now.

  12. ..and for all the haters of Jethro Cutler (myself included):

    Jay Cutler Proves Naysayers Wrong By Defeating Shittiest Team Ever To Make Playoffs



    CHICAGO-Silencing once and for all the multitude of critics who said he did not have what it took to be a postseason quarterback, Bears quarterback Jay Cutler led the Bears to the NFC Championship Game last Sunday by defeating the 8-10 Seattle Seahawks, by far the worst team ever to make the playoffs.

    “I think I’ve demonstrated what I’m truly capable of when I’m playing to my strengths,” said Cutler, who threw for two touchdowns against Seattle’s godawful 27th-ranked defense and had a four-game interception streak snapped only because Seahawks safety Jordan Babineaux inexplicably muffed a pass thrown at the goal line. “People got to see my true potential today.”

    Cutler will play his first postseason game against an opponent with a winning record Sunday.

    http://www.onionsportsnetwork….

  13. apparently, before he asked for the citizens’ vote.

    Colorado’s Elections Chief Taking Side Job

    DENVER — Colorado’s newly elected secretary of state says the job doesn’t pay enough and he’ll take a side job with his old law firm. Scott Gessler insists the side job won’t conflict with his official job overseeing state elections.

    …Gessler says his official salary of $68,500 is too low to cover expenses for his family. Gessler has not said how much he’ll earn from the Hackstaff Law Group.

    http://www.kjct8.com/news/2657…

      1. You’d think he’d do a little thing like the financial planning for taking a paycut (as most politicians who go from wealth to public service do) before he decided to run.

    3. to defend Republicans who broke election law?

      I’ve decided teaching math doesn’t pay enough, so I’ve decided to go back to my old job of selling copies of math exams. I insist it won’t present any conflict of interest.

      1. Or, you could say his old job was advising republicans how to skirt election law or, if that didn’t work how to break it without incurring big fines.  

  14. but I guess it’s too long or something.

    Tea Party Republicans picked the wrong woman when they decided to run a primary challenge on Lisa Murkowski (R-AK):

    Last month, Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) was the only Republican to vote with Democrats on repealing “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell,” the tax deal, the DREAM Act, and New START ratification.

    …

       “I don’t believe that there are votes sufficient in the Senate to repeal health care reform….We’re in this situation where there is some messaging going on…. The real question is how much time do we as a Congress spend on this messaging?

    “We’ve got a situation where our economy continues to be in the tank, the longest extended period of high unemployment since World War II…. As important as making sure that we’re reigning in our health care costs — spending a lot of time on the messaging vote? I don’t think that’s what the American public wants us to do…. I don’t think what people want is kind of the messaging that’s going on.”

      1. He transformed MSNBC from loser to winner over CNN.  Vastly improved ratings and set stage for transformation to liberal point of view shows that have proved much more successful than CNN’s attempt to remain vanilla.

    2. Stopped playing in the middle of a song so he could start another one…this time somewhere else.

      MSNBC generates some controversy to get the moderates back by cutting him loose in “decisive” fashion. I’m sure this will lead to some BS commitment to be more balanced in both the talent and reporting

      Keith gets to leave with a Leftie Halo around his head as he floats out the door to whatever media venture he starts.

      No politics here, just crass marketing…

      1. liberal point of view shows and CNN is not successful being moderate.  Don’t think that’s it.  Think Olbermann has always been a handful and not just because of politics. He’s burned many a bridge in his day.

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