Perhaps more of a flip-flop-flip, reports ABC News this weekend:
Republican presidential hopefuls Mitt Romney and Herman Cain have announced that they won’t sign the Susan B. Anthony’s List Pro-Life Presidential Pledge, which five other Republican contenders –Michele Bachmann, Newt Gingrich, Ron Paul, Tim Pawlenty and Rick Santorum — agreed to sign.
Romney announced his decision in an oped today on the National Review’s website. He called the pledge “overly broad” and said signing it could have “unintended consequences.”
“It is one thing to end federal funding for an organization like Planned Parenthood; it is entirely another to end all federal funding for thousands of hospitals across America,” Romney wrote…
Romney also said he is pro-life, but he didn’t always feel that way, a fact Rick Santorum has pointed out on several occasions. In 1994, when running for the Senate against Ted Kennedy, he said, “I believe abortion should be safe and legal in this country.” In 2002, during his bid for the Massachusetts governorship, Romney vowed to “preserve and protect a woman’s right to choose.”
Upstart “Tea Party” candidate Michele Bachmann immediately fires back:
“It is distressing that Governor Romney refuses to sign the SBA Pledge, even while claiming to be pro-life. The excuses for not signing clearly continue the doubts about his leadership and commitment to ending the practice of abortion – particularly for a candidate who ran as pro-choice for the Senate and Governorship of Massachusetts. Any Presidential candidate seeking our party’s nomination should sign the SBA Pledge and vow to protect life from conception to natural death. Governor Romney should reconsider his decision not to sign the Pledge just as he reconsidered his position on the life issue during the last campaign.”
And let’s not forget the beloved local who got this latest anti-Romney purity pledge snowball rolling, Susan B. Anthony List Project Director Marilyn Musgrave; who announced the “Pro-Life Presidential Pledge” at the Republican Leadership Conference this weekend. Holla!
Over at the Brewery Bar in Aurora at 4:30PM today, GOP presidential frontrunner Mitt Romney will meet with local small business owners–a little more public than his exclusive Cherry Hills Village fundraiser at the home of energy developer Bruce Payne, where you probably won’t get to hear if Romney is confronted about this. But we can already give you the likely response: Romney is headed to Aurora (and Bruce Payne’s house) to talk business, not abortions. Why waste time talking about abortions while Barack Obama is killing America?
Ken Buck, speaking from experience, might suggest Romney tell that to Bachmann.
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Joseph Smith, Jr. (December 23, 1805 – June 27, 1844) was an American religious leader and the founder of the Latter Day Saint movement. Regarded as a prophet by his followers, Smith was also a military leader, city planner, political theorist, and polygamist.
Smith was reared in western New York during the Second Great Awakening, a period of religious enthusiasm. He was influenced by the Christian revivalist atrmosphere of the time. In the late 1820s, Smith said that an angel had directed him to a buried book of golden plates inscribed with a religious history of ancient American peoples. After publishing what he said was an English translation of the plates as the Book of Mormon, he organized branches of the Church of Christ, a church whose adherents were later called Latter Day Saints, Saints, or Mormons. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J…
And they say Jesus Christians are crutch loving fruitcakes.
But if you want to see a real fruitcake, just look in the mirror.
Yup,
I am one of those crutch loving fruitcakes.
I have a few vices also.
the Susan B. Anthony’s List Pro-Life Presidential Pledge how? Just another opportunity to high jack a thread to vent unrelated venom, I guess. Getting to be your M.O. That and sheer ignorant idiocy.
If a man’s religious preference or lack of is not relevant to Presidency, I do not know what is.
You should change your single subject to single purpose. Subject is broad, purpose is narrow.
Article VI, Paragraph 3 of the U.S. Constitution.
A man’s religious preference or lack of it is ABSOLUTELY not relevant.
One of the many things poor Markie doesn’t know. Wonder if he knows that our most influential founding thinkers and writers were Deist, not Christian, Deism not including the Christian concept of trinity or the divinity of Christ, that George Washington rarely attended church of any kind or that he was against establishing army chaplains, believing that it was none of the government’s business to meddle in the spiritual lives of its soldiers.
In short, he was pretty much the opposite of today’s conservative pols who seem to be insisting that we were meant to have a Christian government or that pols should have to wear their religion on their sleeves in order to get elected, with non-Christians not welcome to apply. Some make noises about Judeo-Christian being the requirement but few Jews are expecting a President Goldberg or Shapiro any time soon and we weren’t surprised that the color barrier was broken before the accepting-Jesus-as-your-savior barrier was. At least not since Jefferson.
I’ve never heard that. Who is “they” that use that term?
does that count?
A large percentage of atheists consider Christianity a crutch. A sign of weakness. A flaw.
Let us not confuse standard Christianity with Mormonism however atheist think both groups are crutch lovers and basically idiots…
I can assure you they are equally irrelevant to me, Markie boy. Whatever gets you through the day. So we’re good, huh, Markie boy?
and I don’t consider any religion a crutch, just a waste of time, money, braincells, etc. But, I think you made up the “cruth loving fruitcakes”. I have never heard it anywhere before. I think you just like to feel picked upon even when you have the law, common practice, etc. ALL on your side at every turn.
hey, this is fun! Who else wants 2 play?
Oh snap. I guess you must be legitimate.
Turns out, the SBA isn’t so interested in seeing abortions stopped in America as they are in who’s stopping them.
They got caught with their pants down, intentionally, if clumsily, skewing their campaign to be exclusively anti-Romney.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…
Obviously, Romney has to have some appeal to the Right to Life crowd to be successful in a GOP primary. His op/ed puts him clearly in the pro-life crowd while sounding more presidential than his primary opponents. Though I’m sure having SBA coming out against him isn’t helpful in a primary, they’ve unwittingly taken alot of the edge off.
I suppose they can claim a moral victory if Romney loses the primary (a big if). But if he wins the primary – and the general (a big if) – they have just made themselves ineffective and irrelevant in every corner of the world.
The WP specifically mentions that Santorum, who signed off on this, also pushed for Tom Ridge’s confirmation, who was pro choice. This pledge specifically says that these candidates are agreeing to fill their Cabinet only with appointees that are anti-choice. The SBA doesn’t bother to call him out on his apparent flip flop nor on the supposed “clarification” of some of the points in the pledge, specifically to Pawlenty’s campaign.
This looks like a deliberate hit on Romney, who has flipped pretty hard on this issue in the past, which I suppose is why they are gunning for him.
other candidates positions. The culture wars are alive and well within the ranks of the Republicans. Only the purest will survive the primary. Good luck getting an honest answer from them about job creation and helping the most vulnerable in our society but who is the most at war with women will get top billing.
Over the weekend I was reading an article, cannot remember where online (I can blame age now) that explained one of those unintended thingies Mitt is concerned about. The example was the California higher education system.
Say there is one class for MD wannabees teaching how to perform abortions at one of the CA public funded med schools. Goddess forbid that a woman might need one to save her life and no doctor around knows how to do the procedure. Under the death-to-women’s pledge ALL of California higher education would be defunded. That is a big problem for anyone running for office that requires California voters.
Mitt and Pawlenty both see the problem. The other “brainiacs” in the clown car do not.
to the Washington Post that 20 Maine provided above. It’s a legitimate concern and I’m glad to see Romney acknowledge it. This pledge is so broadly written that it’s a disaster start to finish.
who do sense, nuance and caution win the Palin/Bachmann loving base. This primary will be a real test of whether or not the grown-ups in the GOP have completely lost control.
Is the power of the Tea Partyish overstated? Will the GOP establishment be able to push through a serious candidate without a vote draining third choice gaining as much steam as Ross Perot did back in the day? Will the GOPT triumph in the primary with a candidate too extreme to be competitive in the general? Any way you slice it, it looks like a bumpy ride. Boo-hoo.
to get through this WWF culture smackdown?
and assorted other fruit loops join us. Please future FPEs, don’t front page any thing about whether abortion needs to be illegal, what god thinks about it, etc. It only encourages them as I recall one entry by BJ when folks were trying to reason with him and it grew to several hundred posts. BJ just thought that meant that you thought he was intelligent. Glad I did not engage in that mind freezing episode that was thoroughly predictable as far as any genuine new information or any minds being changed.
That thread generated a fair number of great sig lines. I think at least one of them is still in use.
I withheld my support from the rork until I saw him promise in haiku form that he would not frontpage the beej.
Nutsy Musgrave chose to co-opt Susan B. Anthony’s name into this idiocy?
This is one of those times.
I feel a sudden urge to spend a Susan B. Anthony dollar by dropping it into the donation bucket at Planned Parenthood.
Wiki is fine, but I think it’s important to show the hypocrisy every time this question comes up. So read this, too.
http://www.coloradopols.com/sh…
So it’s like if I had a hate group against homosexuals and called it after Dr. King. While the base argument is kind of possibly the case (he didn’t approve of homosexual relationships), the rest goes against every ideal (disapproving doesn’t make it OK to deny equal rights, we don’t really know to what degree, if any, he would agree with definitions of marriage, or domestic partnerships, etc., but it’s probably fair to think he would be outraged at violence against the group).
Also, I miss my Jam Jam.
No litmus test or pandering to the Religious Right for that man.
Republican presidential candidates pledge to appoint judges to overturn the unconstitutional anti-abortion law they will sign
There’s lots of references to court cases and such. I wouldn’t sign this thing either even if I was anti-abortion. It seems REALLY short-sighted to base cabinet appointments on their abortion stance as the first priority.