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November 23, 2011 09:04 PM UTC

Gessler promised a state senator he'd have evidence of election "fraud," but hasn't delivered any

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  • by: Jason Salzman

(Yeah, but did he pinky-swear? – promoted by Colorado Pols)

Secretary of State Scott Gessler said a lot of interesting things during his speech at Colorado Christian University last week, but reporters should circle back and ask about a story Gessler told about the last legislative session.

We know that Gessler made a lot of references to voter fraud during the last session, implying that there could be thousands of illegal voters. Recall he was “nearly certain” there were 106 illegal ones, but not a single one has turned out to be a fake.

At one point, he said that he did “believe” there were instances of fraud in Colorado that a photo-identification pill would have prevented. But he didn’t say he had real-world proof of fraud on hand. He made specific claims of fraud later on the radio and to the Pueblo Chieftain. (Anybody know of other specific instances In which Gessler alleged actual “fraud” in Colorado, not the potential for it?)

But during his speech Monday, Gessler said he actually promised during the session to show proof of fraud.

Gessler said he was making a presentation to the Senate State Affairs Committee, and one Senator told him he’d agree with Gessler on a photo-identification bill if there were evidence vote fraud in Colorado. Gessler said he responded to the senator by promising to produce evidence of such fraud.

“Well, you know, we’re going to provide some evidence of that,” Gessler recalled that he told the senator.

The senator responded by saying the evidence would have to be “widespread,” Gessler recounted.

Gessler doesn’t have “high hopes” that a photo-identification bill will get through the State Senate next session, but he plans to try anyway, he said.

He will “assemble the evidence from states like Indiana, assemble the evidence from states like Georgia; there’s been eleven other states where this has passed in the last two years and look at their experiences and be able to make the case that this is a good thing for the state Colorado, just as it’s been a good thing for many other states.”

So this gives journalists a clue about where Gessler may be going with his accusations of voter fraud. With no proof of election fraud here in Colorado, he may trot out evidence, sparse as it may be, from other states, and claim it applies here.

If he does this, journalists should report that Gessler promised to provide evidence of Colorado fraud.

And if he manages to come up with proof of fraud in Colorado, it should be taken seriously, but it would be legitimate for reporters to evaluate the seriousness of evidence based, in part, on how widespread it is. For example, The Denver Post reported earlier this year that national studies show that election fraud by noncitizens is not an issue.

Gessler told the audience at Colorado Christian University that opponents to bills requiring voters to present photo-identification take a “see-no-evil, hear-no-evil speak-no-evil approach.”

But reporters should point out that, in fact, when it comes to elections in Colorado, there’s essentially no evil to see or hear, despite much searching.

The problem comes when you have a secretary of state who promises evil, sees evil, and hears evil, and delivers nothing.

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15 thoughts on “Gessler promised a state senator he’d have evidence of election “fraud,” but hasn’t delivered any”

    1. First, he said there is fraud here, in CO. Show us the evidence.

      Second, Gessler is trying to restrict the voting rights of CO voters, not those in other states, yet

      –joker veteran

      1. If fraud is happening in other states, it could easily be a flaw in their laws which allows it to happen.

        The laws in Colorado that protect from fraud are probably different than any other set of laws in any other state, so any comparison is apples vs. oranges. (or fruits vs. nuts in Gessler’s case)

    2. One person here and another there?  A massive five or ten people in one locality?

      The number of voter fraud cases that I can remember reading about in the past 8 years could be counted on just my fingers.  The real problem remains election fraud – cases of voter intimidation, intentional dissemination of misleading election dates, etc. – but I don’t see SoS Gessler taking any action on those, because election fraud has been traditionally the domain of people trying to suppress the Democratic vote.

        2. (That’s Republicans, Democrats, Whigs, Federalists, Bull Moose Partiers, and all the other third parties present and past…)

          Mostly because our standards included voting in person whenever possible and following a strict set of balloting procedures.

          Those are both going away, and though neither side is sufficiently concerned about the technicalities behind election security and procedures, Republicans have been particularly egregious in not wanting stricter voting machine and procedural standards.

        1. well, Chicago.

          Votes lost. And then found.  

          More votes than registered voters.

          The whole dead guyz voting thing is ridiculous.

          But there are ways to hit your numbers.

          And remember – yard signs don’t vote.

        2. as he says,

          and he’s seen it, as he says,

          then it should be easy to show evidence, which he’s said he will do.

          Beyond that, it’s just a standard Republican talking point trying to throw some mud at Obama.  

  3. You should hear from me next week as far as the progress of my attempt to retrieve either the evidence or a document admitting there was nothing to provide me.

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