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March 11, 2012 05:47 PM UTC
19 Comments
Clock and body are once again singing in two part harmony.
Nice thing about computers, cell phones, etc is they automatically change the time. So my brand new Leaf, a car with GPS and a cellular connection to Nissan’s servers… How does it handle it?
Well it knows it is in the mountain time zone. It syncs the time with Nissan’s servers. But you have to go into options and tell it that it is daylight savings time. WTF?
and anyone else who thinks changing the clocks makes sense.
If it updates from the servers, it should update eventually. But it knows an arbitrary shift is pointless.
Well, at least you can ponder how to fix that over a beer in Ft. Collins while your Leaf is getting a free recharge. New Belgium to offer free electric vehicle charging stations
Of course, the only downside is that at 66 miles away from the New Belgium brewery, you’d need a recharge once you got back to Boulder. But after an overnight charge in your garage, you could always go back for another 😉
I think they are MOuntain too, but don’t do DST.
The solution is letting the Leaf track your location or allow you to designate a home location.
an app for that . . . ?
Let’s just leave them how they are now. Forever.
Moving them forward and backward is pointless and dumb.
I hate having to wait until 11:00 to go out with my telescope in the summer.
Different numbers on the clock don’t impact that.
dictate when the news is on, when the mail comes, and lots of other stuff. It also sort of dictates when we cook dinner.
Do you blow off work at a different time depending on standard time/daylight savings? Do your employees? Is it company policy?
That was damned near one of the most absurd things you ever posted, David, except for whining about having to press a button on your new car.
My apologies David, whom I really like and respect. But I have to post this considering your former employer:
the damn button pushing, Ralphie. Ok, that does suck, but before you even get to that there’s no doubt some sort of manual that has to be read . . . reality bites.
if I want to see a certain event, it certainly IS an hour later because I have to rise according to the clock, not the sun.
I don’t hate DST, but I hate how they keep making it longer and longer. The extension into November is the dumbest one – supposedly made so that kids could trick-or-treat while it was lighter, they instead wait until dark – now an hour later than it used to be. Brilliant thinking, politicians!
This morning I was enjoying Daylight Saving Time as I was able to get out and start digging in the garden well before the sun was too high for it to be enjoyable. Later in the summer I will bless it even more since I inevitably wake with the sun and if we had not moved the clocks I would not get enough sleep.
Also, as I am released from work at a late-ish hour I love DST during high summer. I actually get some sunlight after work due to it.
If it came to a vote I would certainly favor either keeping the present system or going to DST year round over standard time year round.
Take the kids to school in pitch black? (Check out how dark it is at 6:45am in December and January, then imagine it at 7:45.)
This issue has already been tested. They went to year-round DST for a year in the 70s once, and found more fatalities among school-age children in the morning compared to the prior year, and very little decrease in power usage or evening-time accidents (the purported benefit of DST).
My vote is schedule it around what is safest for kids going to/from school.
Looking for the study you mentioned I did a google search and eventually found this abstract that I will quote in part.
“Congress then asked the National Bureau of Standards (NBS) to evaluate the DOT report. In an April 1976 report to Congress, Review and Technical Evaluation of the DOT Daylight Saving Time Study, NBS found no significant energy savings or differences in traffic fatalities. It did find statistically significant evidence of increased fatalities among school-age children in the mornings during the four-month period January-April 1974 as compared with the same period (non-DST) of 1973. NBS stated that it was impossible to determine, what if any of this increase was due to DST. When this same data was compared between 1973 and 1974 for the individual months of March and April, no significant difference was found for fatalities among school-age children in the mornings.”
This seems to indicate that the evidence can go either way depending on how you chop it. One way shows a significant increase, the other shows no effect. Also this was a one year experiment over the winter of 1973-74. It would seem to me that it would not be a fair test to try it for one year. Is there any other evidence that school age children are at risk from going to school before the sun rises? Is, for example, there a statistically significant difference in fatalities between northern states and southern ones? And do schools have to start at 8am and go to 3pm? Or the other way around. Could businesses be encouraged to move adult activity up one hour so adults could get done with work before the sun is well on its way to setting?