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May 02, 2012 01:30 AM UTC
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“We think there’s very little question that Mitt Romney would have used Richard Grenell’s sexuality at some point during the campaign as a token of newfound “Etch-a-Sketch” moderation–or at least deflected some amount of criticism with it.”
You are joking, right? Not a chance Romney would or could do that. He would not because he does not have the spine to take a stand contradicting the hard line social conservatives. He could not because it would hurt his chance of election by offending hard line social conservatives who might stay away from the polls on election day. Not a chance.
Romney has to track back to the center, and he’s definitely going to try. It will be fake but he will have no choice but to do it pro forma. The lunatic right can’t win the presidency, that’s why Republicans barely win (or in Dubya’s case, don’t win and become President anyway).
initial “dubya”?
It’s good to see you admit that much.
Romney took a principled stand regarding the ouster of one of his employees. This was one of those true ballsy leadership moments. Oh wait, no it wasn’t.
and then he wasn’t.
How long did that last? A week?
This just reinforces the flip-flop narrative on the guy. He’s not his own man at all. He’s who ever the radical extremists in the Republican Party want him to be. The guy has a serious credibility problem.
Romney didn’t change his mind and kick this guy out. Romney hired him, and then his campaign did what was best for their campaign… which, yes, sometimes involves making some decisions that work around stupidity of the media and the public. It’s really hard to blame Romney for the fact that this adviser was uncomfortable with the impact he was having on the national discussion, and decided the Romney campaign wasn’t the right place for him. The campaign didn’t fire him; they just tried to keep him out of the spotlight while the stupidity died down.
The problem here, this time, isn’t Mitt Romney. It’s the whole idiotic Republican party.
who thought it would nice to have a token gay on his staff but didn’t know the probable consequences of his actions when the shit hit the fan.
And that makes him presidential how?
I know it’s election season and all, but taking every opportunity to shoehorn everything into a snipe at Romney isn’t my idea of fun. I’m not voting for the guy, but I’m also not interested in being part of a conversation where no one cares that the comment I responded to was flat-out incorrect… instead, it’s all about taking what I did say and pivoting to another Romney attack. I’m getting a bit sick of it. I guess I’ll go away and maybe come back next December when people are done being campaign-bots and back to thinking individuals again.
Too bad you fancy yourself to Diogenes with his little lantern. Sorry to disappoint you. We are kind of a nutty group who believe our inbred views can be as funny as your pedantic perspective.
The article I read said that Grenell quit after he arranged a conference call with reporters and Romney staff called at the last minute and instructed him not to say a word so he wouldn’t be quoted. He sat through the whole call in silence and then decided he had enough of their Mickey Mouse operation. That sure sounds to be like an incompetent operation and we all know where the buck stops.
See you in December. Hope you have fun writing sober and serious things to yourself.
it is Romney’s fault in the sense that he’s the official buck stops here guy in his own campaign even if he’s de facto completely subject to his strategists
The strict social conservative base, hearing about this for the first time, will be appalled that he ever allowed an openly gay person to be part of his team in the first place. Others, especially among, indies will either see hypocrisy or weakness and lack of leadership as Romney dares not come to the defense of his team member in a decisive way.
This reinforces the already popular image of Romney as a shallow creature with no principles not subject to adjustment at a moment’s notice. Probably because that’s what he keeps proving himself to be. It isn’t just an image problem.
Today’s GOP clearly has no room for the openly gay and it’s increasingly difficult to understand how any self respecting gay person could bring him or herself to be a part of it. Gays who remain really have no one to blame but themselves when their party throws them under the bus. What do they expect?
The GOP is officially anti-gay. Period. Whether or not Romney is personally anti-gay or not isn’t relevant as long as he agrees to go along with it.
Correct BlueCat. You articulate the point quite well.
would have been to be Michelle Bachman’s husband to “cure” Grenell so he could carry out his duties straight. Mitt’s “base” would have been in heaven about it.
Didn’t we just finish 8 years of “who could have expected” excuses from the last GOP president?
Great campaign slogan: “Not Mitt’s Fault”.
people, even gay people. He eliminates jobs in an equal opportunity fashion.
Who is next, the black dude or the woman?
… the defense, “I can’t control whom I fire – activists just tell me what to do!”
That’s what Mom n Dad told me being a grown up meant–not dodging your own past but owning up to it like a man.
So, yeah, I see where Willard has a problem…
Let’s pay no attention that electing Romney empowers the lunatics who think that if you’re gay, you’re not qualified to be a foreign policy adviser, or if you provide abortions you’re not qualified to do Pap smears. Mere trivialities in the grand scheme of things.
This endorses the notion that good Republicans (Americans?) shouldn’t have anything to do with gays. Public shunning? How Christian!
that there is no place in today’s GOP for anyone who happens to be gay….not even as an advisor to a candidate, let alone as a candidate themselves.
It speaks to mittens’ weak character more than anything else.
This shows my age, but there’s a great story that contrasts the republican nominee’s wishy washy, indecisive, frankly cowardly nature with the very strong willed Vince Lombardi.
In 1969, Coach Lombardi took over the Washington Redskins. Running back Ray McDonald was a 3rd year player, not particularly talented, by NFL standards, but a guy with a work ethic off the charts. Coach Lombardi heard “through the grapevine” during training camp Ray was gay. He waited, bid-ed his time, and, sure enough, some asshole made a slur about McDonald at practice.
Lombardi blew the whistle, called the entire team together, and while not pointing fingers, naming anyone, announced that if he ever……..EVER………heard any member of the Washington Redskins make a remark about any body’s “manhood”, as he framed it, again, the offender would be cut,without delay, regardless of who he was.
Period.
After practice in the coaches’ meeting, Coach Lombardi put the position coach of the player that had chided McDonald on notice. “Get that moron under control or you’re both gone” were his exact words, or so David Maraniss quoted coaches that were in the room that night.
At that same meeting, Coach Lombardi told McDonald’s position coach to do everything possible give the guy a shot at making the team.
According to Maraniss, Lombardi told the coach to make sure talent and nothing else was the determining factor.
McDonald didn’t make the team that year, but another gay player, tight end Jerry Smith did.
Knowing the social demons Smith, a great player, faced on a daily basis in 1969 America, Lombardi called him into his office and told him to “Shove it down their throats by being All Pro….this year. Sonny will get you the ball. You do the rest.”
He did.
All this while mittens, that same summer, was attending pro Vietnam War rallies at Stanford, secure in the knowledge his student/Mormon missionary deferment would assure him he wouldn’t have to participate in that very war he was advocating.
Two people, two very different views of right and wrong.
It’s no wonder mittens folded on this one.
It was worth the read.
Lombardi did what was right over 40 years ago, but Mittens can’t somehow summon the balls to do it now.
Lombardi was a Democrat!
It makes me feel much better toward a man I had dismissed as a winning is the only thing zealot.
Mr. Maraniss’ book, “When Pride Still Mattered”, is an unblinking, sometimes down right critical look at the life of Vince Lombardi.
If you’re a pro football historian, or a casual fan, or a casual fan that remembers the 1960’s as pro football’s golden age, like me, this is the real deal.
Sure is looking, from today’s thread about Lundberg, BJ Nikkel, and SB2, like BJ Nikkel has a shot at being remembered as a hero 40 plus years from now.