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May 22, 2012 11:18 PM UTC

But Hick says you can drink it, right?

  • 26 Comments
  • by: JeffcoBlue

(It tastes sort of like Tab – promoted by Colorado Pols)

Update: KJCT reports up to 2,000 gallons of tasty, refreshing frack fluid may have spilled.

KREX Grand Junction Channel 5:

A tanker truck carrying thousands of gallons of fracking chemicals rolled over on Highway 139 at mile marker 32 Monday afternoon.

Trooper Nate Reed with the Colorado State Patrol says the driver of the tanker truck was headed south on Highway 139 toward Grand Junction when he lost control, causing the truck to flip onto its right side.

Officials with the Lower Valley Fire District say approximately 50 gallons leaked into a nearby stream before they dammed the area to prevent it from being contaminated any further.

The EPA is on scene according to KREX, and they seem to be taking this very seriously for a substance Gov. John Hickenlooper says you can drink and that he has personally taken a swig of. Why doesn’t Hickenlooper head to the scene of this fracking fluid spill for a taste test?

But then he might have to explain how there are lots of different kinds of fracking fluids, and most of them aren’t the Potemkin drinkable CleanStim fluid that Halliburton executives take shots of with gullible governors. I doubt Hickenlooper will be taking any swigs of the fluid they actually spilled.

Sorry, I know he still deserves praise for holding his ground on civil unions, but Hickenlooper’s fracking foolishness should not be forgotten. We need leadership on many issues.

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26 thoughts on “But Hick says you can drink it, right?

      1. The guy actually gives a shit, unlike you liberal leftists. Now I know he’s a massive leftist with a conservative shell, but he knows this …. Keep on killing jobs in rural Colorad and he’ll find himself following Ritter.

        The Obama-Pelosi stimulus has failed to deliver Colorado the jobs that were promised. Heck Hick hasn’t even enforced Obama … that says a lot.

    1. who got behind Gardner’s asinine claim about the EPA regulating agricultural dust emissions and was so clueless that he ended up sounding like a complete ass.

      Did your course of instruction include the lesson on conducting some basic research before crafting your message to get your line of persuasion across?

      JeffcoBlue, since the EPA took a whole day to drive out there to conduct tests, I don’t think they are taking it “very seriously”.  Well, anymore seriously than they usually do when there’s been a hazardous waste spill into a water source (pretty much anything is classified as hazardous waste once it hit a water body).

    2. of a politician and his policies with throwing him under the bus. I really do think this is the Achilles heel for the Republican Party. You folks are sheep and simply cannot bring yourselves to honestly critique your own without feeling as though you are betraying them.

      There are lots of things I dislike about being a Democrat but one thing I love is that I never feel I have to keep my thoughts, opinions and comments to myself in order to be allowed to continue to remain a member of my political party. How I pity you. It must feel so strange to never be able to say what you think openly. Reminds me of how historians have portrayed how Russians felt under Stalin.  

      1. It’s hard because they don’t even know what they think–until somebody higher up tells them. Their views are necessarily those of their authorities, so they obviously have no contrary views to open up about. Pitiful.

  1. It’s not your fucking water.  It’s not Hick’s either.

    It’s ours.

    And if it’s fucking poisoned, it’s fucking poisoned.

    You want to try to make political points off of this? Don’t bother.  We over here where the water comes from don’t much like people poisoning our water.

    Poisoned water doesn’t care which party is poisoning it.

    Poison is poison.

      1. the EPA hot footed it to the scene to try to capture a sample. It wll be interesting to see if they got there before the industry could clean up anything they might get.

      1. and there’s been plenty of cases of wells poisoned and concreted over because of contaminants showing up in folks’ water. Loads of documented cases of birth defects in farm animals, human ailments ranging from bleeding ulcers to kidney failure, literally hundreds if not thousands of documented cases of water being poisoned and it hasn’t mattered to stupid fuckers like you before so why should it now?

        It will matter to you when you can no longer wash your hands in your sink, use your shower or drink your tap water without setting it on fire. Until then, I imagine it will continue to be of no consequence or concern in your world.  

  2. drank fraccing fluid as it used–that is, diluted with water.

    There is no doubt that some of the components used in fraccing, when undiluted, are not good for you.  But the stuff that actually goes into the well is very dilute.

    Consider, for example, sodium hydroxide, which is used (and shipped) as a concentrated solution.  In that form, it is extremely corrosive.  When mixed into a detergent, it’s not as corrosive–probably safe to spill on skin if rinsed off, but probably not good to spill in your eyes and not safe to drink.

    But when diluted to the actual use concentration, its fairly safe.

    1. But when diluted to the actual use concentration, its fairly safe

      that is totally unsubstantiated.

      There are hundreds of toxic chemicals used in drilling and fracing, many of them in the “parts per billion” toxicity level.

      Your casual tossing off of the danger would be interesting if you could in any way substantiate what you are saying.

       

        1. that’s one. I will await your report on the other several hundred…those somewhat more exotic than Lye.

          Until you can provide the specific info on the stuff in fracing fluid , I will continue to hold my opinion.

          In fact, what are the ingredients in “Zeta-Flow”? That was the chemical that nearly killed Kathy Behr, down in Durango.

          1. I am pointing out the ludicrousness of comparing diluted fraccing fluid to a spill of a concentrated chemical.

            Lye might not be exotic, but it is–in the form in which it rolls down the highway in tank trucks–an extremely dangerous chemical.  

            1. I want to point out, finally, disclosure and accountability are, at this date, not high on the industries’ list of priorities.

              Your point about “dilution is the solution to pullution” is understood. The complication comes when you realize that there may be 20 wells on a pad. With an average of 15 fracs per well, that is a total of 300 fracs, minimum, from one location. Maybe more.

              If the industry would cooperate, everyone would know what the comprehensive effect would be. At least, in the near term. The residual effect from hundreds and hundreds of fracing jobs on a single watershed are undocumented. But that is changing.

              1. I don’t believe that “dilution is the solution to pollution.”  The solution to pollution is making wise choices about what chemicals we allow industry to use, and ensuring that they take neccesary precautions to try to prevent unplanned releases.

                However, in examining toxicity, it is important to consider the level of exposure–i.e., the dilution, because generally they cannot be separated.  That is why it is specious to compare a transportation accident involving a concentrated fraccing chemical to Hickenlooper’s media event.

                1. Having just cleaned out the cat box, I’ll swish one of those little nuggets around in a five-gallon bucket of water and invite you over for a cocktail. Ten gallon? Twenty gallon with ice cubes? Splash of ginger?

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