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February 14, 2006 09:00 AM UTC

Tuesday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

Love is in the air.

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45 thoughts on “Tuesday Open Thread

  1. Dan Haley had a brief comment yesterday about the online programs that various gubernatorial candidates have underway, from Beauprez’s podcasts to Holtzman’s student site and Ritter’s “planned” blog. Was a pretty good piece, and quite frankly, I’m suprised the Pols haven’t written more on the online campaigns recently.

  2. Peggy will come out on top of this dispute as long as she remembers to use platform stance #1, “BBFE”, of the Democrat Handbook. 

    The BBFE will put this issue to rest and boost her image amongst the party.

  3. Just curious:
    Similar to Peggy–he changed his reg to his mom’s house w/out really moving. This could be a bigger problem for him than peggy because of residency requirements to run for senate

  4. Loved Tom Tancredo’s Nazi party rally at the Capitol Building!  Great move.  Could Bill Winter’s campaign ask for better press?

    The Washington Post covered it under:

    “Minuteman Rallies at Capitol”.

    Tancredo really needs to do some damage control with this.  His affiliation with this party is getting a little scary.

  5. Some years ago, Gil Romero (then serving in the House) was the subject of at least one TV investigative report because he did not live in his district.

    His mother’s house was in his district and that is where he claimed his official residence, however he had a McMansion, where he actually lived, in a little town outside of Pueblo and outside of his district.  A lot of sound and fury signifying nothing.

    It should also be noted that Mary Ellen Epps had a similar problem when she first ran for Jeff Well’s Senate seat.

    She was serving in the house but didn’t actually reside within the confines of the Senate District.  So she rented a ‘room’ in a private house that was within the district but was clearly still living in her old residence.

    She did  something similar to Lamm.  She filed differents sets of documents with the Secretary of States Office.  She filed her candidate form listing her new address but then filed disclosure forms with the old address.  The two forms were filed within days of each other.

    A lawsuit was filed in El Paso county to try to keep epps off the ballot because of the disputed residence.  She won.

    Both ways Bob of course, didn’t live in the 7th when he decided to run, but as far as we know he wasn’t stupid enough to not cover all his bases as far changing registration, etc., – at least as far as we know.

    Not sure why people don’t do what Chlouber did.  He ran in the 1st CD, but mainained his Leadville residence.  He made no pretense about where he lived.  Of course by doing that, he had the disadvantage of not being able to vote for himself in the general election.  Of course if he had changed his residence he would have had to give up his Senate seat.

  6. CORPUS CHRISTI, Texas – The 78-year-old lawyer who was shot by Vice President  Dick Cheney in a hunting accident has some birdshot lodged in his heart and he had a “a minor heart attack” Tuesday morning, hospital officials said.

    Oh man this guy cannot catch a break

  7. Chris Romer moved into SD32 at a time when Dan Grossman was telling people that he was going to seek reelection. Chris Romer changed his driver’s license, vehicle residence and physcially moved into SD32 in October 2005. The District Attorney’s Office is not investigating Chris Romer.
    Those are the facts and all of the facts.

  8. I saw a moving truck in front of an apartment in SD32 the other day. In fact, I saw several trucks at other residences around the district! I think there may be others moving into SD32 as well, and many of these are changing their drivers’ license to reflect this fact!!

    WON’T SOMEONE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS?!? THERE ARE PEOPLE MOVING INTO OTHER DISTRICTS HERE!!

  9. Ah yes, the Green Party.  The place where those who have not had there issues resolved by the major parties come together to throw their vote away.

    Wouldn’t one come to the realization sooner or later that spending your money to fund a campaign with no chance of winning is just a waste of both time and money?

  10. Ah yes, the Green Party.  The place where those who have not had there issues resolved by the major parties come together to throw their vote away.

    Wouldn’t one come to the realization sooner or later that spending your money to fund a campaign with no chance of winning is just a waste of both time and money?

  11. You can add Gary Hart to those who understand that the establishment “… Democratic party is once again imitating the Republican party in a desperate effort to regain power.”

    In my opinion, supporting this kind of Democratic Party politics when the nation needs genuine renewal and reform … is just throwing your vote away.

    DC

    Pressuring Paul Hackett To Abandon Campaign is Old Politics at its Worst

    Gary Hart

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gary-hart/pressuring-paul-hackett-t_b_15637.html

    Based on news reports alone and knowing nothing (thank goodness) about behind-the-scenes politics, the pressure brought on Paul Hackett, the bold Iraqi veteran, to abandon his campaign for the U.S. Senate from Ohio is deplorable.

    This is simply old politics at its worst. There is a party which hand-picks its candidates, decides who can and cannot run, directs money to the favorite candidate, and dictate terms. Up till now, that party has been the Republican party.

    Now, it seems, my Democratic party is once again imitating the Republican party in a desperate effort to regain power. With the McGovern democratic reforms in the early 1970s, political bosses were diminished and grassroots voters were elevated. The theme was, Let the people decide.

    Telling Paul Hackett that he cannot run for the Senate, and purportedly calling contributers to dry up his funds, is the worse kind of old politics. It will drive voters away from the supposedly “open” party, the Democrats, and further add to public cynicism about how politics in America is played in the early 21st century.

    Shame on us.

  12. What happened to Average Voter Guy?  Is he still around?  Does he think Peggy Lamm’s residency issue is a deal breaker? Does he think Beauprez’ jumpsuit folly is a serious political blunder or much ado about nothin’? Would he go hunting with Dick Cheney? 

    Did we scare him off or is he still out there?

  13. What happened to Average Voter Guy?  Is he still around?  Does he think Peggy Lamm’s residency issue is a deal breaker? Does he think Beauprez’ jumpsuit folly is a serious political blunder or much ado about nothin’? Would he go hunting with Dick Cheney? 

    Did we scare him off or is he still out there?

  14. Or maybe it’s a sign that Democrats looking for a clean break haven’t gotten to all the players yet.

    What happened with Hackett was crude, and not the first time this year that the DSCC and DCCC have interfered with races in ugly ways.  Democrats who disagree with this sort of campaigning will be making their dissatisfaction known, and maybe we can even come up with something creative to give Rahm Emmanuel and Chuck Schumer a clue-by-four about how not to do politics.  But leaving the party just when we’re beginning to re-invigorate it is not the solution.

    IOW – you can quit trolling for converts now, Dave.

  15. “Ah yes, the Green Party. The place where those who have not had there issues resolved by the major parties come together to throw their vote away.”
    Well said Dogbert.  Of course, if you fit that definition but also really like drugs, you can vote Libertarian.

  16. Loved Tom Tancredo’s Nazi party rally at the Capitol Building!  Great move.  Could Bill Winter’s campaign ask for better press?

    The Washington Post covered it under:

    “Minuteman Rallies at Capitol”.

    Tancredo really needs to do some damage control with this.  His affiliation with this party is getting a little scary.

  17. Based on news reports alone and knowing nothing (thank goodness) about behind-the-scenes politics, the pressure brought on Paul Hackett, the bold Iraqi veteran, to abandon his campaign for the U.S. Senate from Ohio is deplorable.

    (from Gary Hart)

    ****************************

    I wonder if Gary Hart had the audacity to say that when Hillary! (of Hillaryland, Inc.) shoved Nita Lowey out of the way in 2000.

  18. Let’s not give Bad Ass Rising (ewww, the stink)any credit here for comparing oranges with apples in his uninformed comment (all too typical, I might add). Perhaps, if he/she would do the research, something of substance could be shared, rather than the usual blather. Why should we “wonder” with Bad Ass? Do the fricking research, and then get back to us with some facts.

  19. Ligety takes men’s combined gold

    February 14, 2006

    SESTRIERE, Italy ? Ted Ligety picked up the gold medal U.S. teammate Bode Miller left behind today, taking first place in the men’s combined event.
    Ligety, a slalom specialist, had moved up to third place overall when Miller was disqualified for straddling a gate in his first slalom run.

    Ligety, 21, from Park City, Utah, had a combined time of 3 minutes, 9.35 seconds, for the downhill and two slalom runs. Ivica Kostelic of Croatia won the silver medal and Rainer Schoenfelder of Austria the bronze.

    Benjamin Raich, who took over the lead after Miller’s disqualification, skied off course on the final slalom.
    http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/olympics/article/0,1299,DRMN_25056_4466164,00.html

    Ligety’s parents live in Beaver Creek.

    Well done and congratulations to Ted Ligety! 
    Talk about underdog status!  WOO HOO!

  20. BMR… You’re such a buzz kill.

    Some of us in the Time Zone that Colorado is actually in were waiting to watch it on TV.

    Thanks much Eastern Time Zone boy.

  21. “That’s it? That’s the best you can do?”
    ROFL at you.
    -0-
    If that’s his best shot, BMR, you have little to fear.  I’ve aimed worse insults than his at you
    when I intended to give you a compliment!
    The boy don’t know his billingsgate, that’s for sure.

  22. Another thing we know about Republican reasoning:

    Tucker Carlson on Monday’s Scarborough:

    This is a private matter. If the vice president winds up shooting one of his pals on his own time, that?s not necessarily our business. The outrage?and I always defend the press in these kinds of things. And I know a lot of people who were complaining today in the White House press corps.

    Shooting a fellow hunter in the face is a private matter.

    Oral sex between consenting adults, however, is a constitutional crisis.

  23. Also, Cheney’s “hunting” practices seem to differ from traditional hunting ethics and practices. University professor and hunter Scott Denham wrote in a February 14 Charlotte Observer column that Cheney’s February 11 quail hunt “broke several basic rules” of hunting — too many hunters, no dog, and hunting from a vehicle. Denham noted that Cheney himself “broke some of the most basic rules: shooting at a low bird and not being aware of the placement of his hunting party members.” Also, as was widely reported in 2003, Cheney and Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) took part in a controlled bird hunt on a Pennsylvania game reserve, in which farm-raised birds were released from nets right in front of the hunters. According to a December 28, 2003, Columbus (Ohio) Dispatch article, Cheney alone shot at least 70 birds, and the entire 10-person hunting party shot 417 birds.

  24. Is it me or is there something wrong with a University Professor being quoted as a hunting expert?

    Or is it that no one will listen to a “hunting expert” unless said expert is a University Professor.

  25. I find the Press’ outrage and sense of entitlement hilarious.  “Waa, Dick didn’t rush to the phone to call me first.”  If he had rushed to the press, he’d undoubtedly be accused of doing “spin control”.  Since he can’t win, he might as well do what he wants and ignore them.

  26. I find the Press’ outrage and sense of entitlement hilarious.  “Waa, Dick didn’t rush to the phone to call me first.”  If he had rushed to the press, he’d undoubtedly be accused of doing “spin control”.  Since he can’t win, he might as well do what he wants and ignore them.

  27. Spot on, Becky.

    And this morning, to add the final (?) bit of irony, no less than Hillary! Clinton says that the delay to inform the media is “troubling”.

    ROFL

    And who else recalls last August, when Harry Reid had a stroke (on a Tuesday) and the media was informed… on the following Friday.

  28. People, this is modern battlefield technology… You don’t shoot to kill a lawyer. You kill a lawyer and he’ll just lay there unburied forever.

    The idea is to wound him, requiring at least two other lawyers to cary him from the battlefield and then three more lawyers to follow the ambulance and another lawyer to look into the commercial aspects of filing a suit. One shot and seven lawyers are removed from action.

    Perfectly executed Mr. Veep! On to the higher populated hunting grounds of California and New York! Try to get a hunting party together with Hilary and Kerry why you’re at it.

  29. The only problem, Iron Mike, is with seven lawyers out of action, who’s going to change the light bulbs in the White House?  I sure wouldn’t trust Congress in so vital a task, and the Clinton thing has dried up the supply of interns who used to do such menial work.

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