Some bang-up reporting from FOX 31’s Eli Stokols yesterday:
In Denver Monday, the Romney campaign held a “Strengthening our Middle Class” event at the Rio Grande Company that featured Colorado Congressman Cory Gardner, R-Yuma, and Sen. John Thune, R-South Dakota, whose name had been mentioned as a potential running mate…
Gardner and Thune agree on Romney, who they argued would be able to fix the country’s still sputtering economy.
But they also agree on something else – the need to extend the wind energy Production Tax Credit, which Romney said last week he opposes…
“I think Gov. Romney is right to say that the government should not be in the position of picking winners and losers,” Thune told FOX31 Denver. “We need to look at what we can do to phase out federal support.”
When reminded that the CEO of Vestas has stated that Congress’s failure to extend the wind PTC would likely force him to lay off roughly 1,000 Colorado employees, Thune acknowledged that the tax credit has supported jobs here and in his home state.
“Colorado benefits from wind, South Dakota benefits from wind,” Thune said. [Pols emphasis] “I’ve supported the wind energy tax credit because it’s been good in terms of my state’s economy and some of the jobs that come with it.”
Stokols points to a letter signed by Sen. John Thune this past February with other Senators strongly in favor of renewal of the wind production tax credit. As we’ve discussed, renewal of this tax credit enjoys near-unanimous bipartisan support from Colorado’s congressional delegation. The reason is simple: thousands of real, high-paying Colorado jobs, and all of the secondary and tertiary economic growth that comes along with them, are directly on the line.
“The future of the American wind industry requires a stable tax environment in which to operate,” the letter began.
But in the end, this weak, contradictory, and above all inconclusive nonanswer is all you’ll get from Sen. Thune or Colorado Republicans who support both Romney and the wind power tax credit. GOP CD-7 candidate Joe Coors isn’t foolish enough to come out against this as a candidate in the district which includes the National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL), but he still appeared with Romney at his rally at Jefferson County Fairgrounds.
In all of these cases, including Reps. Scott Tipton, Mike Coffman, and Cory Gardner, they’ll say they support Romney’s “principle” on some hypothetical level, just not where it would kill thousands of jobs in their home states. And they would like change the subject.
To, you know, jobs!
If it looks to you like they’ve got a major political problem here, folks, it’s because they do.
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Thune is inviting a primary from the right.
The abolition of wind subsidy may cost 1000 jobs however that same subsidy money will automatically be used to hire 1000 private sector employees.
There will be NO net job loss.
that what you say makes absolutely no sense at all.
Which orifice do you pull this out of?
Doug Lamborn for once was right.
Government should not pick winners or losers in technology. If wind power is so great than it would not have to be subsidized.
How many jobs were promised with Vestas and how many actually created in Colorado?
its not government’s role to invest in shit like the internet. Oh wait, we’re on the internet !
Often times the research the government invests in is not economically viable at the time, but then it is later.
Or maybe we could just let the Chinese do all the serious public investing in technology (like they did with solar) and kick our asses again.
Sounds like a real formula for success you have stumbled upon there.
And we don’t subsidize oil and gas, either!
all breaks and subsidies for gas and oil (and all other corporations) so we can really have a level playing field and may the best technologies win. Glad to hear it. Too bad there isn’t an Olympic Hypocrisy event because righties would really pile up the gold. Oh wait. They already do that for their masters in the oligarchy.
BP and Exxon Mobil are drowning in money. Let them build private navies to protect the straits of Hormuz from Iranian attack/blockade. Those nuclear powered carrier fleets are expensive; think of the savings!
During the heyday of the Iraq War, someone figured out that is what our fuel really costs us once you factor in subsidies and the military protection.
Moving air, sunlight: No military needed.
into research and development in a particular industry, how are we to compete with them ?
So do we ask the Chinese to stop subsidizing their strategic alternative energy industries BEFORE or AFTER they force all our Solar, Wind companies into bankruptcy?
So mismanagement, a product that was not that good and leadership that was great at buying influence but not running a business were not the causes? Fidel is right you do learn something every day.
I got out when it became apparent that the Chinese govt was bankrolling excess capacity and that panel prices were going to tumble.
I made money on them but then got lucky and got out in time. World oversupply of panel prices that began with the EU not renewing solar subsidies.
And Gadfly, yes those things you list were factors, but not the biggest one. If your product is half of what it was worth a few weeks ago going out the door that will have a huge impact on your revenue stream and future viability.
I have read nowhere else the theory that Solyndra failed due to Chinese activity which I assume you to mean price fixing. If true your claim about Chinese intervention in US energy markets should be investigated.
That’s pretty much the gist of every story I’ve read about Solyndra’s failure, though there’s disagreement whether feds should’ve pulled the plug sooner or management could have reacted differently.
My guess is that Solyndra failed because a group of Masters of the Universe knew how to buy off politicians but not run a company.
However, please include a link to an article the gist of which attributes their failure to the Chinese be it by price fixing or something else. I am not saying you are wrong I just have not seen the stories you reference.
It’s called a newspaper. They have articles, with facts even:
When using Google, I would suggest not leading off your query with “FOX News sez”
are ignorant, too.
Here we are, a couple of unwashed liberals (me and Fidel, anyway) investing in the capitalist stock market and, lo-and-behold, we find the game is rigged and scram (after taking our profits, mind you).
Meanwhile, the conservative, who places his faith in free enterprise and free markets, has no clue what’s actually going on in those markets.
I love it when conservatives tell me how the market works. Oh, do tell !
But getting subsidies is as old as America itself. Probably as old as civilization.
But would capitalism ever have brought electricity and phones to rural America? Built Hoover and Bonneville dams? Initiated space exploration?
Not bloody likely.
Hold them to the record.
that ending those Bush tax cuts for millionaires should immediately add hundreds of thousands of new jobs to our economy — when are the Republicans ever gonna’ get serious about job creation? — I assume you’ll be writing to Mssrs Romney, Gardner, Coffman, Lamborn and Tipton post-haste?
Now, don’t take this personally, but as my jaw hangs, my wondering if you are a moron is answered.
They are agreeing to disagree on this one issue, because the issues that unite us as conservatives against Obama are much more important. Wind power will do better under Romney because all of America will be doing better.
Your obtuse attempts to ignore this are just that.
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Maybe we could replace the term “wind power” and then throw just about anything in its place ! Genius !
maybe throw in some rainbows too.
Wind powerthe Rockies will do better under Romney because all of America will be doing better.Things are gonna change, I can feel it !
Are you talking about the different versions of Mitt Romney?
Mitt agrees to disagree about almost every single position Mitt’s ever taken — because the issues that unite him as a conservative against Obama are much more important.
That or getting elected president, for Pete’s sake! One of those reasons!
personally fall into the “agree with Willard,” or “disagree with Willard” camp on this issue at this time? — answering is not such a difficult task, really; not like producing tax returns or e-mails from your time as governor.
And, if you can, please be sure to explain your reasoning.
but I kind of appreciate the great GOP message machine sending out this seemingly never ending supply of moron-bots. It’s a laugh a minute.