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August 31, 2012 03:33 PM UTC

Open Line Friday!

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“Obama is strictly cronyism. So if you are a Republican and you’re in line at the DMV to get treated for an injury (that’s what it’s gonna be under Obamacare) if you didn’t vote for Obama, didn’t vote for a Democrat, maybe you end up at the back of the line all day.”

–Rush Limbaugh, yesterday

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36 thoughts on “Open Line Friday!

  1. Ane “we” know how you voted?

    Holy shit!  This should be enough to get him hauled off to the funny farm.

    No, this is America, 2012.  Millions of people agree with him and he continues to make obscene money off of his and his listener’s delusions.

    At least some of the money goes to help the blue pill industry.  

    1. On the effect of blue pills on mental health?  Seems like they should.

      Although, I think this is just Rush being Rush.  Calling Limbaugh an asshole is an insult to hard-working sphincters everywhere.

    2. Average age 67+ and almost three quarters male, overwhelmingly white. The grumpy old white man demo is still enough for a lucrative show but not enough for decisive political clout anymore. Except in the alternate reality of Dwyerism where Rush is, has been and always will be all powerful, the majority takes everything he says as gospel so, thanks to him, some Tea Party candidate won the GOP nomination and went on to be elected President back in 2008, personhood amendments and/or legislation long ago passed in states all over the country and reached the Supremes, resulting in the reversal of Roe v Wade.

       

    1. ….somehow, they became one of the largest energy companies in the world under those job-killing environmental restrictions imposed by the (actual) Socialist Govt of the Netherlands.  

  2. as in, this is the optimal system that Republicans would create.  When someone makes up criticism of others you can be pretty sure it’s an internal statement.

  3. He’s headed there today with (Mr. Hypocrite) Jindahl.

    “Fuck you, you don’t need no stinking gummint help?”

    “What you need is Grover Norquist’s prescription:  Get yourself some fucking initiative, you of weak moral fiber!”

    Or, most likely, “We will help you in every way that we can.  And, oh, BTW, we WILL balance the budget regardless, so that socialistic hurricanes don’t bother you ever again!”

    1. real fiscal conservatives like Congressman Cantor demanding that before a penny of disaster relief is spent, it must be offset with other reductions.  (Joplin, MO, 2011)

      And not long before that I remember then Speaker DeLay being criticized by R’s who didn’t think it was right to add to the deficit or raise taxes to pay for Katrina relief.

  4. Hope to same some fine Western Slope products such as fruit and wine, put in a few miles on the roads, and enjoy (probably) my last camping trip of the year.

    No Pols, No Facebook, no Web. Hopefully ‘tad and ArapaBot won’t post too much nonsensical crap when I can put my virtual boot up the same ass they talk out of….

  5. hasa an editorial today questioning Gessler. Apparently 16 people he wrote to have self identified as being on the voter rolls improperly. No idea if they purposely misled to get on the rolls.

    So, 16 rounds up to 2 dozen now.

    Of course, the coents were filled with the A-bots insisting that Gessler was just doing his job

    1. We don’t know if some qualified voters withdrew because they didn’t want to fill out the extensive questionnaire asking for lots of personal info. We don’t know if some new citizens may have withdrawn out of fear of challenging authorities or because of misunderstanding. We don’t know if some unqualified were improperly entered as signed up to register at the DMV due to communication or clerical error and would never have attempted to vote.  

      We do know that there is still no proof that anyone has succeeded in voting fraudulently, that a single fraudulent vote has counted in a single Colorado election.  Zero prosecutions. Zero convictions.  

  6. Apparently he said, last night, that GE kept us safe.

    How do “they” say shit like this with a straight face and clapping?

    I guess Jeb missed 9/11.

    Bot, ‘Turd, can you justify this?  

  7. If my grandparents emigrated to a country, my dad was born there, and then my grandparents and father moved back to the  country whence my grandparents left- and then I was born, would I be a citizen of the place I was born or the place I just claimed to be from?

    http://gma.yahoo.com/mitt-romn

    …Mitt Romney touted his own Mexican roots in a autobiographical video broadcast to the Republican National Convention just hours before (he) took the stage.

    The GOP nominee touted his immigrant grandparents as “refugees of a revolution.” But unlike many of the speakers that came before him, Romney’s grandparents did not seek refuge in America, they fled it.

    In 1885, Romney’s great-grandfather, Miles Park Romney, fled to Mexico to escape America’s anti-polygamy laws. Along with a group of his fellow Mormons, Miles Park Romney, who had four wives and 30 children, settled in Chihuahua, Mexico, where polygamy was still legal.

    It was there in Mexico that Mitt Romney’s grandfather, Gaskell Romney, grew up and where his father, George Romney, was born. Gaskell and George Romney moved back to America before Mitt Romney was born to avoid the violence of the Mexican Revolution.

    While Romney does not often mention his Mexican roots, his son, Craig, who is fluent in Spanish, touted his father’s bi-cultural past in a Spanish-language campaign ad.

    “He greatly values that we are a nation of immigrants,” Craig Romney said in the ad. “My grandfather, George, was born in Mexico. For my family, the greatness of America is how we all respect each other and help one another.”

    So, which is it?

    Mitt is a citizen of the US because (presumably) he was born here.  Making George  a (cowardly) citizen of Mexico.

    Or George was an American because he chose to be.

    PS

    But while the GOP convention video plugged Romney’s Mexican roots and the Romney campaign touted his father’s heritage in a Spanish-language campaign ad, the candidate himself said it would “disingenuous” to consider him a Mexican-American.

    “I don’t think people would think I was being honest with them if I said I was Mexican-American,” Romney said during a Univision interview in January.

    Yeah- I agree that the American people don’t think he’s being honest with us, but not because he doesn’t want to talk about his family’s strange emigration history.

    1. How did that escape the voters of Dems back when he primaried for the GOP nomination?

      HIS father, perhaps.  If Miles Park R. had registered him with the embassy as an American citizen.  But since Miles Park probably wasn’t a big fan of American polygamy laws, why would he?  

      As to Mitt, he was (allegedly) born in Michigan, which like 48 other states, grants automatic citizenship to those born there.  Hawaii, not so much.  Too much ocean in between.

      (I heard an idiot birther – sorry for the redundancy – tell the radio host that Obama wasn’t born in REAL America….Holy mother of brain cells.)

      1. in the GOP primary against George Romney about his citizenship. It was settled that he was eligible to be president because he was born to American parents– they didn’t renounce their citizenship when leaving the US.

        This is why John McCain was eligible to run for president, since he was born in Panama.

        1. first, John cCain’s dad was serving in the military in Panama, no question ever about citizenship

          second, when the issue arose re George Romney’s birthplace he claimed he was not sure where he was born. It never was much of an issue because he dropped out soon after as he began to lose primaries after claiming to havve been “brainwashed” on a trip to Viet Nam by Westmoreland. Since his dad was not in Mexico for school or in any official capacity it is hard to see how he might have gotten  declared a citizen. But, there are always those Mormon excceptions like Mitt got for the draft

              1. The laws in regards citizenship for the offspring of Americans change from time to time.  While I can’t quote chapter and verse, the law in place at the time of McCain’s birth isn’t real clear, frankly.  

                Someone perhaps could have made a huge issue out of this, but the blow back could have been bad for the Dems.  

                How ironic that while McCain’s legal status was sort of gray, Obama’s wasn’t.  Unless you just don’t want to believe.

                My mother and most of her sibs were born in Brazil 1917 to maybe 1930.  Grandparents had to file with the American embassy within so many days to make her and them American citizens.  

  8. http://gma.yahoo.com/catholic-

    A well-known Catholic priest who hosts a weekly religious television show said in an interview this week that child sex abusers are often seduced by teenage boys and should not go to jail on a first offense. But the comments were removed by the website that published them and replaced by an apology from the priest and the site’s editors.

    The Rev. Benedict Groeschel, 79, who hosts a weekly show on the Catholic television network EWTN, originally made the comments in an interview with the National Catholic Register. He also referred to convicted pedophile Jerry Sandusky as a “poor guy.”

    “People have this picture in their minds of a person planning to — a psychopath. But that’s not the case. Suppose you have a man having a nervous breakdown, and a youngster comes after him. A lot of the cases, the youngster — 14, 16, 18 — is the seducer,” Groeschel was quoted as saying

  9. but when they commit felonies, especially those that damage the national security of the USA – prosecute, litigate and otherwise …something that rhymes with ate.

    http://news.yahoo.com/pentagon

    The Pentagon has determined the former Navy SEAL who has authored a book about his role in the Osama bin Laden raid is in “material breach” of non-disclosure agreements and warned him it is considering legal action against him as a result.

    It added that it is considering legal action against all those “acting in concert” with the SEAL on his book, “No Easy Day,” which is scheduled to be released Tuesday.

    A letter by Pentagon general counsel Jeh Johnson informed the former SEAL that he had violated non-disclosure agreements against releasing classified information.

    Also –

    “In signing his non-disclosure agreements, the former SEAL acknowledged he “assigned to the U.S. government … ‘all royalties, remunerations, and emoluments that have resulted, will result or may result from a disclosure, publication or revelation of classified information not consistent with the terms of this agreement,”

    I know, I know, betraying classified information is ok when it embarrasses D’s and there supporters, and it’s almost always ok to get rich from abusing the gov’t, but still.  Scooter Libby should be in prison and this guy should be prosecuted.

  10. We’ll be seeing Romney gaining in polls post convention. It will be depressing for Dems but here’s something to remember.  

    The average post convention bump is about 5 points.  If one candidate is polling way behind, that candidate tends to get the bigger bump, not relevant to this close race.

    So far, one poll has the race going from 46 to 42 for Obama to 46 to 44 for Romney but it should take a few days to see the full effect of the convention which just ended last night.

    So, nothing terribly alarming so far and Obama still coming up to bat with his own convention. Obama supporters should try to enjoy the weekend no matter how much the righties gloat and even though this still looks like a nail biter.

    I hope Obama takes full advantage of the debates to counter all the Ryan/Romney lies. All he has to do is come prepared with well checked and documented facts. He can say things like I’d defend ending the work requirement for welfare if I had ever done that. Of course I haven’t, then bring up how thoroughly that’s been fact checked and explain the truth. They have supplied him with so many well checked lies, he could even joke when asked about any of the many falsehoods that it’s like being asked “When did you stop beating your wife” before launching into the truthful explanation.

    Take away the documented lies and Romney/Ryan don’t have much. Still waiting on any details of any plans for anything from Romney, after all.  

    1. I’ve been hearing this for years.  People do not vote on facts or ration.  They vote on emotion.  Unfortunately, the R’s principle emotion to tap is hatred, which is primitive and strong. Dems and libs are on the losing end of that big stick.

      Facts will not do it.

      1. A lot of it has to do with media.  They treated the Swift Boat crap like a he said/he said thing with both sides having their “opinions” and credibility. That’s not been the case this time.  The problem is both the candidate under attack and the media letting the lies reach a critical point of traction.

        You’re right about emotions and Romney doesn’t seem to have much advantage there.  Likeability isn’t an asset for him and Obama is no Kerry or Gore.

        I still think the amount of non-factual garbage, called out by the media early and often this time and that forms the center piece of team Romney rhetoric will give him problems in a debate situation that you don’t have so much in speech or ad situation, especially with quality moderators such as Lehrer.

        Debates may not matter as much but they matter somewhat and somewhat in a close one can mean a lot.

        Speaking of debates, I remember the VP debate between Cheney and Lieberman. Much as I hated Cheney and opposed all his positions, there was no escaping the fact that he wiped the floor with the totally ineffective, whiny toned, wimpy Lieberman. A different VP might have helped just enough to make that election too close to steal.

        Of course not running completely away from still popular Clinton would have helped more. If Gore had run on some more delicately put version of “I’ll be a lot  like Clinton, except for that unfortunate zipper related flaw which I don’t share, and will continue all that great Clinton peace and prosperity, pants securely zipped” I think he would have won as decisively as Obama did in 2008. Still think Obama has solid chance in 2012, all things considered,  

      1. being the leader of the US is from being the secret CEO of a company. For one thing, you don’t get to load it up with debt, withdraw all the cash  into your own and your friends pockets and then let it go poof, riding off into the sunset with a huge profit for yourself and your posse, leaving nothing behind but rubble and newly unemployed. Wait. Isn’t that exactly what Vice (supposedly) President Cheney did? Well then I guess Mittens might do OK for himself and who cares about the destruction?

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