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October 04, 2012 09:25 PM UTC
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What Rev. Al Sharpton calls a “Rope-a-dope” strategy. Lying like a trooper carried Romney through 90 minutes and earned applause from fellow-loudmouth Chris Mathews. But it sent up Romeny for weeks of rebuttals from those mean old Fact Checkers.
Ahh, the Severely Conservative governor of Massachusetts was a Massachusetts Moderate all along. Was he lying in the Republican debates or did he lie in the Tuesday debate?
my guess is that he wants to light a fire under the Democrats’ asses, too. Complacency and overconfidence have bitten them many times in the past, but it’s still a siren song people on the left can’t often resist.
But rope-a-dope is certainly possible, too. Maybe give Romney a false sense of mitt-mentum and bring down the hammer next time. Risky strategy, but Romney is still old unlikeable, unimpressive Romney. That’s not changing any time soon.
But I do think that was the result. A lot of Dems have been reading polls and feeling confident. This morning, my wife and I sent another C-note to Obama. I’ll be surprised if many more don’t follow suit.
One of the talking heads was saying many of Romney’s rich donors had been discouraged but will now be fired up to give again. Their problem is that they can’t — they have already given the 2,500 max per cycle. So Sheldon Adelson may pour another $100,000,000 into some dumbass pac, but that’s not nearly as effective as Obama’s millions of donors coughing up another 100 bucks or so.
Plus, I think it will fire up the volunteers.
As Churchill said, there is nothing so exhilarating as being fired upon with no effect. Right now, Ds are scared and worried. Hopefully, they will stop reading polls about Ohio and work their butts off.
… I’ve been doing a bunch of work for the campaign and now have trouble mustering up the energy and will, because I think Obama blew it by being too cocky and self-indulgently unwilling to engage, which he’s always found distasteful.
So I hope you’re right but fear the debate’s effect will be the opposite of “fire up the volunteers.” I’m not just disappointed, but pissed.
The entire nation is hurting.
He has failed us with poor decisions, professional behaviors unbecoming a President, fiscal mismanagement, and a failure to set and execute a pro growth strategy which would have increased tax revenues.
Worse than Carter, not even close … in total his impact on the nation should be compared and contrasted with Nixon.
Hell, even Bill Clinton feels your pain.
What hurts is that Obama allowed so many lies by Romney to go unchallenged, that he allowed Romney to get away with so much when he could EASILY have smacked him down – while still maintaining his professional and adult attitude – and that he failed to present the case for his own election on so many important things such as saving the U.S. auto industry, protecting women’s rights, immigration rights, etc. etc. etc.
It was a flaccid and uninspiring DEBATE performance, from the constantly bent head to all of the above. He had better do a lot better in the next two debates.
and I mean does better as President … does better with the 8.3% of this term that is remaining.
I only saw a portion of the debate, but to me it looked like Obama made a huge substantial point (that Romney will promise anything but that his plans not only won’t work but can’t work).
Romney pretty much lied about everything all the time. If you wanted Obama to complain, “That’s not true!” “No it’s not!” “Nuh-uh!” that would have sounded pretty pathetic and would have literally taken up ALL HIS TIME. Instead he talked to the audience like adults and didn’t play ping pong, leaving all the lying to be pointed out either by fact-checkers or by his own ads later on.
Romney has plenty of time to rehearse zingers and falsehoods. Obama has a real job.
Man up and stop sounding like dwyer.
…well said.
… one that the early polling hints has cost Obama 2-4 points (just the prelim Reuters poll of today, low sample size and all).
I think Obama could’ve done more without just saying “no no no,” and that’s frankly the consensus.
That said, I think he’s still the favorite to win; I’m just frustrated that by unforced error, he’s lowered the odds of his victory from >80% to maybe 60% now. But I’ll genuinely be super-ecstatic if in a few days the polling shows Obama still has a lead of 3+ points.
who don’t give a shit what the facts are, so fuck them.
This notion that Obama said “uh” too much and now Romney’s positions and personality don’t matter is dwyerism at its most pure. Rise above it.
The rest is legitimate criticism. We can truthfully point out how Obama blew this debate without becoming pollyannas. I’ve already pointed out debate victories by those who lost the election, and I predict that’s how this will go down, too.
Almost from the beginning he sounded like a conservative Dem or Our Father’s Generation Republican.
What a distorted performance.
Romney destroyed Obama last night. Obama did not mean for that to happen.
You people are even more desperate than I thought.
He won, but your predictable hyperbole is far from the truth. That’s why independents everywhere are unconvinced.
Obama did not mean for last night’s performance to happen. Romney did not “destroy” Obama: Romney etch-a-sketched so far to the center that if he’d said what he had in the GOP debates you, ArapaGOP, would have been calling him a RINO of the worst order. The lies and flip-flops will hurt him in the next debate; they will be fodder for attacks. BUT … Obama could have literally ended the Romney campaign last night if he had been on his game and simply responded effectively and concisely to some of Romney’s ridiculous comments. Instead he gave a wooden performance, and now we’re being treated to a classic George Costanza “Jerk Store” belated response.
You choose the dollar amount, and the terms (cash, charitable donation, etc) on the following proposition:
Jan 2013 President Obama is Inaugurated again.
I say true.
When you deny your own statements and make new stuff up? From the New York Times:
Did you grow up watching the Superman TV show where the theme was “Lies, Persecution and the American Way”? I didn’t.
If Romney’s performance last night makes your chest swell with pride, may God have mercy on your soul.
Now I’m not looking for your over-estimates …. maybe someone has the DPD number.
I stuggled to listen to this rambling video … I was waiting for him to discuss accountability and private sector job growth … never did it come.
Who cares about your Borg opinion? When’s the last time you did anyone the courtesy of answering a question?
Quite respectable, especially given the cold.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrew…
Al Gore blames it on the altitude. He says Obama was lethargic because he wasn’t conditioned to our thin air, and Romney was because he was here a couple days earlier than Obama.
I think I’ll go climb a 14’er this weekend….
“Hi” to Paul R-Ayn for me . . .
I had this backward, I thought Romney was out of town before the debate, but I’m glad to see Romney was smart about this and came to town early.
I agree with Al Gore (for the first and LAST TIME), this is one of many things Obama screwed up.
I think Obama was tired because during his 4 day Las Vegas debate prep he kept getting his ass kicked by the guy playing Romney.
He was finally faced with a personal conversation on his mistakes and achievements and had the self recognition that his story doesn’t add up.
The guy knows he’s a failure. He got owned by lobbyists, other Democrat power brokers, Pelosi, bankers, healthcare companies, drug manufacturers, other government workers, etc…
Heck, last month he lost a US Ambassador on his watch because his administration failed. I’m not saying he ment to get the guy killed, but the buck stops at his desk.
Ask the experts in body language about Barry O’s stance … he showed his “tell”.
OK, now you’re way overplaying your own hand. Your own guy did an effective job of lying and prevarication. Hey, he looked good doing it, and that’s what apparently counts in our reality-show universe.
Obama was actually the most effective in calmly defending his accomplishments – although he left so many out! Lilly Ledbetter, saving the U.S. auto industry, wind and solar, etc. etc.
Where he did a lousy job was in not skewering Romney on his outrageous flip-flops. My oh my, who knew that Romney does NOT want to reduce taxes for the top earners after all! Does want more teachers! Cares for the 47%! On and on and on… I wish Biden were there last night: he would have been laughing out loud – and getting the crowd to laugh with him.
I think the whole ‘He’s practicing zingers’ and ‘the train kept him up all night’ were the first evidence of an actual coherent strategy from Team Romney.
They lured Obama to where he went, and then WHAM
Next week’s VP debate should be entertaining.
After that I expect a different Obama will show up at debate #2 #3.
Obama went from in the lead to train wreck.
That will come on November 6th and Rmoney will be in the engineer’s seat. The only winners of these debates that matter is moving a swing state from one column to the other. Otherwise, the debates are much ado about what’s already in the mill.
Oh, wait, no it didn’t. Reagan still went on to the greatest landslide in the history of American presidential elections. People usually don’t even remember that Mondale got him when he trotted out “there you go again” for another round.
We’ll see how the polls respond. I would say ‘train wreck’ is a bit hopeful.
Especially since I could have sworn you were just on here a few days ago claiming over and over and over again in your troll-like way that Obama was not in the lead.
However, MSNBC polled response showed 46% thought Rmoney ‘won’ 21% thought Obama ‘won’ and 32% ranked it a tie.
From this it is pretty clear that Rmoney did not score the knock out blow he needed.
Furthermore, RMoney is getting devoured by the factcheckers since he lied his way through the debate (or etchasketched his way through if you are a Republican).
I think RMoney put in the stronger performance, and I think it would be hard for the objective observer to conclude otherwise. However, I do not hold your powers of reason or objectivity in any regard, so your gloating is nothing more than troll grunts from under the bridge.
but now I even think it’s true!
I guess Romney’s not the only flip-flopper.
retroactively in the lead, which didn’t matter and won’t mean anything. That Romney was invented being in the lead while Governor with a legislature that was 87% D. You know, back when Romney was pro-choice, pro healthcare mandate, and a Utah resident.
He’ll have another 4 years to correct that.
He reminds me of Pinocchio on crack..