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April 11, 2024 01:37 PM UTC
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The question of "was it loaded?" can now be followed up with "was he loaded?" And what are the odds of accidental discharge at some point in the Capitol, given that it happens in other places, and there's nothing magical in the building to prevent an unattended weapon from being jostled or falling off a counter? I'm not sure any of these questions are rhetorical.
Sincere question: What would you do if you went into a public restroom, at the Capitol for example, and found an unattended handgun? No doubt there is law enforcement in the building, but if you go get them, you have to leave the weapon unattended. Do you take it to officer? I do not know enough about weapons to be able to easily determine if it is loaded or safe to handle.
Sure, I'll add on. Let's say you carry the weapon toward where law enforcement might be, but they don't know you're doing that – do you become a target? You take the weapon out of the restroom and the gun owner sees you doing it – does he or she try to wrestle the gun away from you? You carry the weapon out of the restroom and the weapon accidentally discharges, toward g_d knows where, maybe causing injury or property damage? The Capitol is made of very solid material throughout much of the building, so I'd say multiple ricochets possible.
I guess I'd recommend getting on the cell phone to contact law enforcement, rather than handling the gun.
You left out the critical question: "Are you black?"
What If the gun is fake and you are a black teenager?
Right up there with the question of whether black people qualify for "make my day" laws.
Yep, visibly carrying a weapon in the Capitol while black could be real trouble for the black person, no matter if their intentions were good.
I wouldn’t touch it I would pull the fire alarm and stand Infront of the bathroom and demand fire and police come to relieve me of the duty.
You can't just go leaving phallic substitutes anywhere. Who knows where they might end up? Reminds me of a King Missile classic.
These hypothetical situations were why my wife took the basic pistol course. Guns terrified her. She wouldn’t have known what to do if she found one like this. now she does know how to handle one safely and incidentally discovered that she’s a crack shot.
"I take firearm safely seriously, I'm just not good at it." Everyone is a responsible gun owner until their not. The U.S. is a completely warped nation that believes the bullshit about "responsible gun owners." I know several responsible gun owners who are six feet under because they weren't responsible enough.
Who can beat the one-eyed, 1/6 Seditionist Stuart Rhodes when it comes to being a self-professed responsible gun owner?
I did not know until right now why he wore that eye patch. We're all rightfully worried about mass shootings, homicides, crimes of passion, etc., but there are maybe about 500 deaths per year in the US due to accidental discharge. It's not hypothetical. Rhodes was trained and it sounds like he just dropped the gun. It could happen here.
Perhaps the FBI agent who shot himself while teaching a gun safety course. But there's a whole flock of those type out there. And the issue isn't gun owners being responsible; it's what happens when that gun owner is going through a mental or emotional crisis, a substance use disorder, or other trouble that leads to irresponsibility?
Partially why my first comment on this thread was "was it (the gun) loaded" (it was by the way), and "was he loaded?" (haven't heard anything about that yet). The Capitol experience beyond a doubt is stressful, combative, and there's certainly drinking on the job.
It's a deadly accident waiting to happen for sure. Had a friend who was going through a messy, emotional divorce and he called his best friend to have him come and take his gun from him while it was going on. I think of that often when I read about the frequency of shootings arising out of divorce/DV situations.