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May 30, 2024 02:48 PM UTC

BREAKING: Trump Found GUILTY on All Charges

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  • by: Colorado Pols

UPDATE #2: Gov. Jared Polis responds:

No one is above the law. Coloradans have faith in our justice system and the guilty convictions from a jury of his peers show the former President lacks the moral capacity to lead our country.

Rep. Diana DeGette:

The wheels of justice turn slowly, but they do turn. No one is above the law, and today’s ruling is a step towards ensuring that no American can exploit our legal system for personal gain. I commend the jurors for doing their civic duty as well as Judge Merchan for diligently overseeing this trial and ensuring it was a fair, equitable, and smooth process.

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UPDATE: As The New York Times reports:

Via The New York Times (5/30/24)

Donald J. Trump has been convicted of falsifying records to cover up a sex scandal that threatened his ascent to the White House in 2016, part of a scheme that prosecutors described as a fraud on the American people. He is the first American president to be declared a felon, a stain he will carry as he seeks to regain the presidency. [Pols emphasis]

Mr. Trump was convicted on all 34 counts of falsifying business records by a jury of 12 New Yorkers, who deliberated over two days to reach a decision in a case rife with descriptions of secret deals, tabloid scandal and an Oval Office pact with echoes of Watergate. The former president sat largely expressionless, a glum look on his face, after the jury issued its verdict.

The jury found that Mr. Trump had faked records to conceal the purpose of money given to his onetime fixer, Michael D. Cohen. The false records disguised the payments as ordinary legal expenses when in truth, Mr. Trump was reimbursing Mr. Cohen for a $130,000 hush-money deal the fixer struck with the porn star Stormy Daniels to silence her account of a sexual liaison with Mr. Trump.

Sentencing was scheduled for July 11. The felony conviction calls for a sentence of up to four years behind bars, but Mr. Trump may never see the inside of a prison cell. He could receive probation when he is sentenced, and he is certain to appeal the verdict — meaning it may be years before the case is resolved. Still, the jury’s decision is an indelible moment in America’s history, concluding the only one of four criminal cases against Mr. Trump that was likely to go to trial before Election Day.

We will update as more information becomes available, but make no mistake: This is a BIG FUCKING DEAL.

It’s the moment we’ve all been waiting for. Stay tuned.

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  4. And even WITH any appeals delaying consequences. WAPO explains the next step

    If convicted, Trump could face other conditions he may consider insulting, including a required inmate review by New York City’s Department of Probation.

    The probation office on the 10th floor of the Manhattan Criminal Courthouse prepares presentencing reports for judges. There, Trump would be interviewed about his personal history, his mental health and the circumstances that led to his conviction.

    Lawyers say the process is humbling.

    “If you think the courtroom is dingy, just wait until you go to the probation office,” said Daniel Horwitz, a white-collar criminal defense attorney in New York and former prosecutor in the Manhattan district attorney’s office.

  5. It's good to see our country working as intended.

    So now Trump says the courts are rigged too. Not surprising, sadly. So Trump says he loves America but says our voting system is rigged, the courts are rigged, the executive branch is corrupt, Congress is inept and that at least half the country is demonic, hateful Liberals who he can't stand. He says cities are rampant with crime and no one can do anyone about it.

    I'd really love for him to have to answer a softball question of "What is it you actually love about America?". The catch would be that he isn't allowed to contradict himself within the past year. I'm not sure it's possible.

  6. Upcoming calendars will need to shoehorn in an event between the first debate and the Republican National Convention

    June 27, 2024 — the first time two men who have held the Oval Office meet in a televised presidential debate

    July 11, 2024 — sentencing of Donald Trump

    Jul 15-18, 2024 –- Republican National Convention in Milwaukee.

     

    2. But Trump isn't convicted in Florida.  He's convicted in New York.  And that opens up the wrinkle in Florida’s law.

      A felony conviction in another state makes a person ineligible to vote in Florida only if the conviction would make the person ineligible to vote in the state where the person was convicted.

      In New York:

      Can felons vote in New York?

      You lose the right to vote while incarcerated if you are convicted of a felony. If you are on parole, probation, or have fully completed your sentence, you may register to vote and cast a ballot. Your voting rights can be revoked again if conditions of your parole are violated.

  10. Naturally, in the world of competing campaigns

    • Just minutes after the verdict was announced, the Trump campaign sent out a fund-raising email in which Trump said, in all capital letters, “I am a political prisoner!”

    • Biden campaign on Trump verdict: 'No one is above the law'

      The campaign also stressed that it still needs voters to stop Trump at the ballot box and recognize that, for better or worse, Trump will be the GOP nominee.

  11. Jonathan Turley was on Fox telling people – and given his audience, this was laughable – that regardless of the outcome, people need to respect the process and respect the jury!

    Altogether now:  THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED!

    He also speculates that there will be an attempt to go directly to the US Supreme Court with a request for an emergency stay arguing federal constitutional issues, yadda yadda yadda.

      

     

  12. From a NYT/Sienna College poll last winter: "Nearly a quarter of Trump’s own supporters said he shouldn’t be the nominee if he’s convicted of a crime, according to a New York Times/Sienna College poll published in December. A clear majority of Americans, 57 percent, said they would not vote for Trump if he’s convicted of a felony in a September Reuters/Ipsos poll — including just under a third of Republicans."

    But the NYT today? "For Trump, 'Guilty' May Not Matter." 

    Worried about declining interest in election coverage much?

    1. "From a NYT/Sienna College poll last winter: "Nearly a quarter of Trump’s own supporters said he shouldn’t be the nominee if he’s convicted of a crime"

      That was then, this is now.

      I expect his approval rating to stay about where it is but those approving of him will do so with greater intensity.

      Biden's numbers, unfortunately, will stay where they are both in approval and (lack of) intensity.

      1. Don't mistake lack of intensity with lack of commitment. This is Biden's last campaign. He is a good man who isn't going to lose to this jerk. Biden brought the country through the pandemic. He helped restart the economy. He showed that Congress can get things done when they are in control. He isn't losing to this stooge. Maybe not a lot of drama around him every day but he is ready to win again. Losers usually don't fare as well the second time around.

        1. I agree with what you're saying, GG. My question is when does the Biden campaign plan to start stressing all the good stuff Biden has done, and is doing. Nobody's perfect; for him, it's the border and the Afghanistan withdrawal, even though Trump is not blameless on either issue. But when will they talk about the good stuff instead of just "how bad Trump is." 

          1. The Biden campaign is ramping up.  The most recent campaign appearance had Biden & Harris in Philadelphia.  Full text (as prepared) of Biden is here.

            The accomplishments mentioned by Biden

            • "I promised we’d do everything we can to get us through that pandemic. And that’s what we did. "
            • "we’re invested more money than ever in the Black families and communities. A promise made and a promise kept."
            • "Recovery Act … right now you see all the construction going on on the highways around here. A promise made and a promise kept.
            • "I’d remove every lead pipe in America so every child can drink clean water without fear of brain damage. We’re doing it."

            And there are another dozen or so items in the list of promises made and kept.

            Only when he's done there does he shift problems with Trump. And there are more comparisons in that section showing Biden taking on and doing what Trump said would be done. 

            His conclusion refers back to accomplishments and points to a need for people to give him a chance to do more.

            Let me close with this. Let me close with this. And, folks, I know we have a lot more to do. When the full promise of America is not available to every person in this country regardless of race, we’ve got work to do. But let’s not lose sight of how far we’ve come. And the reason is you.

          2. "My question is when does the Biden campaign plan to…" 

            Nothing until July. Enjoy Pride. Live a good life SMILE! Let Republicans get angry and pick extremist candidates in their primaries.

    2. I'm certain there will be LOTS of polls in the next week or so, trying to suss out the impact of a guilty verdict. 

      Given there will be an appeal, there will be a sentencing hearing on July 11, and there will be multiple people weighing in on the details of the trial and verdict (especially if one or more of the jurors has something to say), trying to use a survey of opinions NOW to understand the impact on a vote in October or November won't provide much clarity.

  14. Dave Williams tried to grift off Trump’s guilty verdict- but they smacked him down.  

    From Alex Isenstadt of Politico:

    Williams, who is running for a congressional seat and has received Trump’s endorsement, sent out a fundraising message in which he derided the conviction as a “disgrace and mockery of the principles our nation was founded on.” The message included a red button asking donors to “STAND WITH TRUMP & DAVE.” But after clicking on it, contributors are sent to a landing page in which donations are solely sent to Williams. The Williams campaign did not respond to a request for comment.

    “Any Republican elected official, candidate or party committee siphoning money from President Trump’s donors are no better than Judge Merchan’s daughter,” said Trump co-campaign manager Chris LaCivita. “We’re keeping a list, we’ll be checking it twice and we aren’t in the spirit of Christmas.”

    Pols- please use your formidable photoshopping skills to make Dave Williams into the Grinch who Stole Christmas.

    1. Grifters gotta grift!  But the larger message to prospective members of the Trump Stooge Party is that wading into the cesspool that perpetually surrounds Trump might not be the wisest career move.  He’s already attracting mostly D-list talent.  
       

      Trump may one day share the fate of someone like Robert Vesco, the con man who went from stealing hundreds of millions of dollars, to getting fleeced by those that offered him refuge for a price, until he wound up penniless and in prison.  Karma is a bitch.

  15. Rep. (and now, historian & foreign affairs commentator) Lauren "Bim" Boebert :

    wrote, “If this were happening in another country, Biden would be asking Congress to authorize a war to reinstate democracy abroad.”

    As others who have read headlines may recall, there hasn't been a request to authorize a war for a generation or two.

    And that MANY countries have former leaders who have been found guilty in their courts and rarely even a peep from the US President.  Time Magazine provides a partial list,  Alphabetical, from Argentina to Thailand.

    Axios has a map:

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