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July 15, 2024 12:24 AM UTC

Monday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“Fidelity is the sister of justice.”

–Horace

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23 thoughts on “Monday Open Thread

  1. While the question of this botched assassination attempt being a "false flag"  operation, or not, is intriguing, it ultimately matters less than how to respond to the photo op. I am skeptical that such an attack could be contrived…until I consider a couple of points made by CHB and others.

    Trump was out of view for a while. The Russians are very good at this sort of thing…as are the Saudis, I surmise. But the most salient question is…would he actually do it? 

     

    1. My next Netflix movie will be "What if everyone had cell phones and deepfake capacity on Nov. 22, 1963?" OK, I need to work on the title. I shun conspiracy theories with the best of them, but some of the stuff getting tossed around on social media is interesting if you just look at the clips in isolation.

  2. Yep, the photo op's the thing. Every wannabe nazi autarch needs his own "Hey you guys, it was the COMMIES who set fire to the Reichstag" moment, and PAB now has his. It'll be interesting – for large enough values of that word – to see what the PAB campaign does with it.

  3. Well, for "Judge" Aileen Cannon, if one cockamamie legal theory doesn't work, just keep looking until you find one that you like. 

    Trump’s classified documents case dismissed by Judge Aileen Cannon

    The federal judge overseeing the classified documents charges against former president Donald Trump has dismissed the indictment on the grounds that special counsel Jack Smith was improperly appointed, according to a court filing Monday.

      1. Yep, and it offers Smith the chance to get a different judge that didn't get their mail order law degree from Trump University.  As for pushing the trial beyond the election, yeah, mission accomplished.  But if it does go to SCOTUS, I think only Thomas believes this crackpot theory is valid.  But given the court's zeal for disposing of inconvenient precidents and slow-rolling Trump's cases, who knows?

      2. It'll be appealed immediately.  The decision of the 11th circuit, though, may not come down until after the election.  Depends on if the 11th circuit expedites briefing and decision or not. 

      3. well, the appeal will start quickly.  But the Circuit court may take awhile and, if it goes against Trump, then a request for a rehearing in front of the whole Circuit, and if STILL goes against Trump, then the Supremes.

        Who knows if any of the courts will decide to reinstate charges and if they do, if they will determine Judge Cannon needs to be rotated out.

    1. At least the assassination attempt happened before this news. The bad faith arguments from Republicans about the assassination attempt are bad enough as-is.

  4. Actually the shots came from the grassy knoll……

    The conspiracy theories have begun and will no doubt morph from the barely credible to the outlandish.

    On another note, RFK Jr., whose father and uncle were assassinated, has repeatedly requested from the Biden administration Secret Service security and Biden has refused. Hopefully this will be revisited.

    1. I leave the conspiracy “theories,” Allyn, to the followers of QAnon and their like on the far right wing. I simply pondered a possible scenario yesterday based on the knowledge & experience that I have. For what it’s worth, all seven of my Russia trips also got into the backcountry as I didn’t spend all my time in Moscow or St. Petersburg.

    1. I liked Swalwell's response: "a white Republican male shot at another white Republican male." So, of course, it's "all about DEI." Sheesh!!

  5. If special prosecutors are not permitted by the Constitution, then Hunter Biden is off the hook. Also, Robert Mueller's investigation was invalid.

  6. "Don't Look Up" election ostriches with your heads you know where.  And this is before the RNC bump and the Martyr sympathy vote.  Biden has to go!!!

    New polls from YouGov show Donald Trump with small leads among registered voters in every swing state:

    1. And since "Registered Voters" wasn't a particularly accurate screen in 2020, it will be interesting to find how different the results from various approaches to "Likely Voters."

    2. YouGov is a paid survey site based in England. They specialize in brand surveys and social questions like…"Are you unhappy GB lost the World Cup?"…and such. Members are paid to participate.

      I am not sure I am ready to clutch my pearls just yet. 

      1. YouGov is a firm that does a variety of polling.   The most recent poll's methodology is

        Methodology: The surveys were conducted between July 4 – 12, 2024 for The Times and the SAY24 project for Stanford, Arizona State, and Yale Universities. The sample size for each state was 1,000, except in Arizona and Wisconsin (where it was 900) and Nevada (where it was 800). These were recontacts of respondents who were interviewed in March for the SAY24 project. This sample was weighted according to gender, age, race, and education based on the U.S. Census American Community Survey, and the U.S. Census Current Population Survey, as well as 2020 Presidential vote and partisan identification. Respondents were selected to be representative of registered voters living in each state. The margin of error for a percentage based upon the entire sample in each state survey is between approximately 3% and 5%.

         

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