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IN LA, it looks like George Gascón's strategy of releasing the Menendez brother the week before the election did work out the way he had hoped.
Still not seeing a call in CO-3, but it's looking like all you need to win there is an R behind your name and no public tuggie footage.
My only consolation this am is that bitch is not here in CD3.
Hurd the turd can now take the SAN LUIS VALLEYS WATER AND PUMP IT TO DENVER BECAUSE THE IDIOT FARMERS AND RANCHERS HERE VOTED GOP.
God help us God help the Ukrainians
Sadly, I'm about to become a CD4 resident after I sell my home in CD6. Got to case my swansong vote for a winning congressional candidate.
Why are you moving to CD4?
One funny thing: Even in times like these, digging around for data in Colorado races can be fun. Trisha Calvarese is ahead of Boebert in DougCo.
Moving in with my girlfriend, selling my old, much too large house. Downsizing somewhat. Ironically, my new neighborhood is way more diverse than my old.
I saw that, too.
That is a statement of how God awful my namesake actually is. She managed to let a Bernie Sanders-type leftie carry the affluent Douglas County.
That is not criticism of Trisha Calvarese. She appears to be sincere and honest in her beliefs. And she deserves credit for taking on a thankless task.
It does say something about how bad Lauren Beetlejuice is when a Dem came within 10% of taking her down in a district where the Republican should be winning by 30%.
Trust me she will do NOTHING FOR YOU. NOTHING GOOD.
Never expected she would. She's a vile human being, i.e., the prototypical 2024 Republican
We are screwed. Far from being "great", the US will be a Russian satellite, enacting Putin's dreams of world domination.
Also, vive l ' resistance.
We'll eventually know about many, but not all, of the voter suppression shenanigans before during , and after active voting. We know Russia sent dozens of bomb threats. Pennsylvania 's draconian laws discouraged voting. Ohio only allowed those with updated ID to vote. Georgia threw out or disallowed registrations, and allowed thousands of voter challenges based on perceived affiliation. Still, the usual suspects will gleefully seek to blame all voter suppression on Jill Stein- while they retire to enjoy their Trump tax cuts. I wonder about hacking and vote switching in electronic ballot states. It still seems mind – boggling that thousands could have voted for reproductive rights AND for Donald Trump.
Still, it's shocking how many believed MAGA lies about immigrants and voted for Trump to "keep them safe". I've talked with liberals who bought those lies . We underestimated how knee-jerk racist so many are. German voters believed that Hitler would "protect them", too.
I'm thinking Putin will reinstate the draft – in the U.S. – for more cannon fodder for the Ukraine war. You know, the North Korean soldiers just might not be enough. But of course all those young American men (boys) who worship Trump will be happy to fight Putin's war, right?
Jill Stein's presence on the ballot did not affect the election outcome. But she and her Green Party are still Russian stooges and, in Stein's case, she is very likely a willing and knowing agent of Vladimir Putin. I have nothing but contempt for her and the Greens, who care nothing about the issues they profess to care about. The Greens care only about helping Russia.
"But she and her Green Party are still Russian stooges"
True. Who can forget that lovely photograph of her having dinner with Putin and General Mike Flynn.
"But she and her Green Party are still Russian stooges"
True. Who can forget that lovely photograph of her having dinner with Putin and General Michael Flynn.
I don't get why we appear to have defeated Amendment K, which would have just basically changed a few election timeline dates by a week. That's what's really on my mind right now, between downing handfuls of Xanax and washing them down with Nyquil PM.
There was a big push up here by the local Republican Party to reject Amendment K. Probably to keep election trustworthiness at a minimum. But I don't get it either. All the other lettered amendments passed comfortably.
It seems that just after Democrats in office finish cleaning up the last of the elephant poop, voters decide its time to have the Circus put on a new elephant parade.
And welcome to the Planet of the Apes
The "independent voter" is what happened. Compile that with most of the America people wanting and capitulating for a police/fascist state and give credence only to the rich thinking they will protect them. Harris lost not by running a bad campaign but due to 40+ years of neoliberal assaults on education, worker's rights, irreversible environmental destruction, and war profiteering that this country lives in a perpetual state of fear and will vote for anyone who exploits that fear in exchange for patriotic jingoism and a false sense of securtity.
With that said, Trump will not last long in his second term. The man is truly mentally ill and does show all the characteristics of dementia which are progressing rapidly. The GOP has their own clueless Biden now who does not know where he is half the time. Even his handlers behind the curtain who pull his strings have to know this. The prospect of Vance in charge in more scary but I feel better off with him only slightly due to the fact he is too stupid to fuck things up on his own as bad as Trump will.
Are we in for some dark times? Yes, if you're poor with health issues, a woman, or even an educator. And that's just the ones I can name off the top of my head. Nothing will change except the rich getting richer, a country drifting towards a police state and a soon-to-be dictator who will not respect the limits of power but relish in the corruption of it. I'm not at all surprised Trump won. America loves living in fear and for the next fours years will have no choice but to blindly accept it.
Unfortunately I think you are underestimating how bad it will get. We are about to have two new younger SCOTUS justices. We are about to completely turn over the administrative state with Schedule F and the legion of project 2025 prospects already vetted and primed to take over and begin dismantling any sense of a fair government. The Tech Bro Guilded Age 2.0 is here and it will be decades before any of this gets better, if we even survive it as a nation.
"We are about to have two new younger SCOTUS justices."
Unfortunately, true. Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito can now retire knowing that they will be replaced by a couple of Federalist Society-vetted right wingers between 35 and 40 years of age.
Anyone know if Eugene Scalia, the former Labor Secretary, is on the Federalist Society list?
Be Kind to Each Other.
I really appreciated David Kurtz's morning-after commentary: Not The Fight We Wanted Or Signed Up For But It’s The One We Got
I refuse to be kind to racists, misogynists, and fascists.
Be Kind to Each Other. Argument by insult is degrading and inefective.
Buy popcorn for the internecine fighting to come. Boycott anything with a touch of MAGA. Support the infrastructure of the opposition:
Off Xitter,
Subscribe to Colorado Sun
I prefer to litigate.
As a singer once said, "this is America."
Don't blame this one the Democratic Party alone or on Kamala Harris and Tim Walz, who ran a fine campaign.
Sure, the Democratic Party has some issues. As I have often written here, it is too cautious on economic issues and too oriented toward centralized party leadership that distrusts public participation. But this election result is overwhelmingly a reflection of who Americans really are: many are poorly educated, excessively influenced by disinformation, and skewed by a persistent adherence to ancient and illogical religious precepts. Our society does not seem to care, really, about our professed ideals and apparently values the quest for the quick buck and the silly idolization of billionaires and celebrities over honesty, decency, community, and courage.
So we will face the consequences. They will be awful.
SHAPIRO/WHITMER '28
Too soon?
Let's rebuild the Blue Wall.
This is who we are. Trump has a 5 million popular vote lead (51%). I said that Trump’s approach was either insanity or genius. Turns out it’s genius and that Ann Selzer’s 3 point Harris advantage in IA was actually something like a 13 point Trump victory.
What now? I say burn the fuckin place down. They don’t want immigrants in the country? Fine. We should EVerify the shit out of this place. Give every employer 30 days to go through their employee files and fire everyone that fails an EVerify screen. Then send in Dept of Labor unemployment auditors of which there are many, many. Fine employers $5,000 for each violation. They will be cleaned out by Christmas. Let’s see what the price of restaurant dinners, car washes, landscape services, roofing, construction, etc. does then. Let them eat their racist crap. Maybe then Dems can come to the rescue again.
i am so pissed. And, I told you so.
Yep, sounds like a plan.
We shouldn't do it. Let Trump do it; make sure, in fact, that we point out how to best do it while objecting to it altogether. But yes, if he's going to do it and we can't really stop it, we should make sure everyone knows whether Trump is being efficient at it, and then watch it hurt.
At this point, I don't think anything short of pure fiscal disaster will reach them. Maybe not even that.
So where's Kamala? I was hoping for some joy and some word salad with my breakfast. Is she MIA?
Well unlike your orange blob of hate, she will accept the results and concede, probably today. I hope you enjoy the big shit sandwich you voted for.
She's not planning a siege of the Capital.
Well, at least the villagers will not be storming the Capitol with their pitchforks and torches on 1/6 to interrupt the peaceful transfer of power this time.
Say hello to William Perry Pendley. Say goodbye to public lands. One of the more tragic results of the election in my mind. Better enjoy Bear’s Ears and other places while we can…
Yes, I think the Trump administration II will not defend the Utah case seeking a ruling that continued federal ownership of the BLM lands is unconstitutional. His Interior Department will agree to surrender the BLM lands in western states to those states.
Then, on USDA Forest Service lands, Trump II will massively increase logging. Any efforts to protect old-growth forests will be gutted.
The right will sue to invalidate the Endangered Species Act on Commerce Clause grounds or, alternatively, for a ruling that protection of species mandates on federal contractors or on private land is a “Taking” that must be compensated by the taxpayer. The radical conservative SCOTUS will agree.
Then the William Perry Pendleys of the world will turn to the rest of the Clean Water Act and the Clean Air Act, attacking both on a variety of newly-found ways granted by SCOTUS in recent years.
Trump II will strip away ESA protections from as many species as it can and, as it did in round one, gut the Migratory Bird Treaty Act’s implementation.
It will also directly attack NOAA and EPA, especially those agencies’ efforts to advance protection of fisheries and provide education and data related to climate change.
Meanwhile oil and gas drilling will be allowed wherever the industry wants to do it. ANWR is well and truly gone. But so are numerous treasured places on the Western Slope, in Utah, in the northern Rockies, and in the Southwest.
We will likely even see a return to building of big dams in some places, maybe even here in Colorado (where at least one is already being built in the northern part of the state), which will reverse gains made in recent years in the effort to restore our rivers and our native fisheries.
Efforts to promote renewable energy generating infrastructure and use of renewable energy will come to a screeching halt.
Brace yourself for the most devastating attack on environmental protections, and therefore environmental quality, in the nation’s history.
Colorado's Front Range will now be desecrated by further strip mining, fracking will also continue unabated leading to permanent environmental destruction, more or more public lands will be sold to private investors, rent will continue to go up, as will food, medical supplies, and Trump gas will not sell for under $3.50/g.
Trump – We Made America Great for Billionaires
This too shall come to pass.
Cheer up because as we have seen, voters like to throw the bums out whenever anything goes wrong.
In 1992, Bush lost because of the economy.
In 2008, McCain losr because of the economy and Iraq.
In 2020, Trump lost because of COVID.
In 2024, Harris lost because of the economy and immigation.
MAGA world will become disappointed in its leader when he fails to achieve all he promised.
And if he should actually try to do some of the things he said he would do – the mass deportations, the tariffs – that will accelerate the blowback by trashing the economy.
Unfortunately, the road will be bumpy and some people will get hurt along the way. The good news is that much of the MAGA world will be among the casualties.
Be careful what you wish for. You may get it.
I wish I believed this. You may be right about swapping presidents again, but I think the damage that will be done will be incalculable and will last a generation or more.
Some random thoughts from one of the few identified registered Rs on the site.
1) I more or less line up with opinions expressed by Lauren Boebert Is / Repeal & Replace. I still like your old handle.
2) when close to 2/3 of voters say the country is on the wrong track, that notion should have gotten more attention.
3) IMMIGRATION. I put it in all capps because Dems never developed a coherent response to the "open borders" thing.
4) inflation & pocketbook. Dems never had a coherent response even if the current economy is pretty decent.
5) DEI & trans-gender. Way too much in-your-face emphasis by nirvana-seeking progressives. I like the approach taken by Colo. Parks & Wildlife with some of their regional recreation partnerships. The concept there is "outdoor equity," getting everybody into the outdoors. Much the same as DEI without all the heat and angst that the three little letters create. Dems also never had a solid reply to the far right's notion of letting boys play on girls sports teams.
6) hindsight is always 20/20. Joe Biden should have dropped out in January or February.
7) Trump is as mentally gone as Biden. But Dems didn't take advantage. Too much "sane-washing" of Trump by left leaning entities like the NY Times, LA Times, Washington Post et al.
There's a simpler explanation. A large plurality of the nation is racist, misogynistic asshats. Been that way always in the U.S. The civil war is still being fought on some level. Racists don't like DEI because it calls them out for being racist. Fuck 'em.
Nicole Wallace was on MSNBC last night. (She's probably my favorite MSNBC personality.)
She was talking about how a lot of the MAGA folk were angry and did not understand why young, upwardly mobile professionals – you know, people who have future earning capacities – were getting their student loans cancelled by the federal government while the high school graduate or GED recipient MAGA child got to go work in a factory and received nothing from Uncle Sam.
She makes a good point.
Which is the same reasoning to hate people on Medicare/Medicaid, or (in part) immigrants, or people recovering for a disaster. "Where's my money?" is a self-centered, non-social way of living in the world. Not that I can't see the point, but the "true" Libertarian everyone can pull themselves up by their own bootstraps mentality is inherently anti-community. We're not sloths, we're monkeys – we are creatures who do better working together, and that's an objective truth.
We could keep denying that this is why some of them voted the way they did and instead focus on calling them names (fascist, cultist, racist, misogynist, xenophobe, homophobe, transphobe and selfish), and hope that gets them to change.
But as Bill Maher said the other night – and has been saying now for eight years – the left keeps going off in high dungeon about how can anyone vote for such a reprehensible person. To which the average MAGA voter responds, "Just like this," and then does it. Repeatedly.
In a little over 60 years, we've gone from JFK exhorting, "Ask not what your country can do for you but ask what can you do for your country," to Trump proclaiming, "What's in it for me?"
I think both groups should get something for their toils. Here is my beef with right wingers going back to the W era, at least.
I remember during the 2004 election during a debate, when Bush was asked about people who are having a hard time finding a solid, good paying job, Bush said, essentially "Go Back to School".
Okay. That's an option. But there were then, and especially now, many things to consider. Which direction do you want to take your career? And the big one: Can you afford it? Can you pay it off?
I went back to school to get my second bachelors' degree in Accounting. I did really well, got through the program and parlayed that into a better job that I have been growing in, and plan to use it to grow. I benefited from some of Biden's student loan forgiveness programs.
People like Bill Maher and a lot of right wingers like to bitch about subsidizing people who get degrees that are worthless, and they paint EVERYONE who tries to get student loan forgiveness as people who get worthless degrees. Even people who get degrees they can use.
On one hand it's right wingers and sympathizers suggesting it as a way to "pull yourself up by your bootstraps", but when you do, you're absolutely fucked w/ Student loan debt. And most people don't care that it's higher now than when they went to school/back to school.
It especially makes Bush's suggestion 20 years ago feel insulting. Particularly since that is not the best solution, or a viable one for everyone who might be having this problem.
There is also zero messaging about bankruptcy and student loans. Many many people declare bankruptcy in this country, which is a forgiveness of debt. Student loans cannot be discharged in bankruptcy (thanks in part to the Senator from MBNA). So a student loan follows me my whole life but if someone runs up debt on cars and toys they can declare bankruptcy? Or how about an entire industry collapses the economy…. those debts can be forgiven? How about the PPP loans that seemed to make everyone with a tiny fake business into millionaires.
There's only so much you can do to guide the country out of a near economic shutdown. By all accounts, America pretty much shouldered the world economy on its shoulders to reach the finish line of recovery. It's always easier to sell doubt and fear — especially when there are unavoidable weak points (like inflation). Nothing Democrats could have done would have altered that and still done right by our country and the world. (Goes against pounts 2 and 4)
Democrats conceded the point on immigration; they even went so far as to support a mostly Republican immigration bill. Trump played Calvinball or Lucy with a football, and really there's nowhere to go from there. Calling out Trump for that move fell into the media black hole of "things less important than Kamala possibly being anti-Semitic today". I agree that some stronger examples of Trump's deportation effects might have been deployed, but really — what more could we have asked or given?
And… do you have a good answer on sports participation? Even boxing, with its weight class divisions, fell prey to fake cries of transgenderism. And how much of DEI is "in-your-face" because of the organizations callung for it or implementing it and how much is it because ir right-wing whinging?
Democrats have been and are doing what's right. There's no great defense against voters believing the Big Lie noise machine, except building a knowing resistance to it.
And as far as sane-washing Trump's age issues, I think you resolved the problem yourself: those so-called left-leaning news organizations toned it down while they played up Biden's age. So how left-leaning are they? I certainly wouldn't consider them to be reliable partners or even neutral parties. Despite various anti-Trump articles, the traditional media (and, while we're at it, the court system) has been exceptionally and unwarrantedly generous to Trump and Republicans. Someone's been doing analysis if CNN's coverage, for example, and Republican guests and viewpoints regularly dominate by both count and time. So much for liberal bias when liberal politicians are shut out.
Oh bullshit. These are lame used-as-fuck Republican talking points you're rehashing. Spoken like any good Fox Spews watching drone would.
Trump is a modern day RASPUTIN with emphasis on Putin. We have invited the enemies of our constitution to be our POTUS.
RESIST
Not a single headline anywhere about "election integrity" today.
WE DID IT EVERYONE! WE HELD THE MOST PERFECT ELECTION EVER!
(This is cynical, angry sarcasm, btw.)
As alway, I appreciate Josh Marhall's Insights at TPM:
I will always maintain that Amusing Ourselves to Death: Public Discourse in the Age of Show Business by Neil Postman is one of the most prescient books I’ve ever read. It was written before email was even a thing and it still holds true.
And about those pesky spoiler candidates……
Some of you may recall that I have vented from time to time about the effects Ralph Nader and Jill Stein had in 2000 and 2016 on the election outcomes.
This time, I am happy to say that Stein/West's combined vote total in MI was about 50,000 while Harris' loss the Trump was 81,000. In addition, RFK, Jr., Randall Terry and Chase Oliver combined took about 54,000 votes, most of which probably came out of Trump's hide.
Wisconsin was closer. The combined totals for Stein, West, and Claudia de la Cruz (running under the banner of Socialism and Liberation) was about 17,000 votes while Harris lost Wisconsin to Trump by 29,000 votes. RFK, Jr., Terry and Oliver took about 31,000 votes, mostly from Trump (one could probably safely assume).
And in Pennsylvania, since Trump is running at 50.5% with 95% of the results counted, the spoilers had no effect on the outcome.
So, for this election cycle, I won't have Jill Stein or Cornel West to kick around anymore. Both were irrelevant.
Okay boo hoo that's done.
Now come the fun of being in the opposition! Let's yell at people!
I have heard already the accusations that the election's catastrophic outcome is solely the fault of the Democratic Party and its leaders. There is certainly some fault there, starting with the usual adherence to severe economic policy caution, but most of the blame lies with the fact that our nation has become a poorly educated, ill-informed, disinformed, angry, cynical land.
It is so obvious that Trump is a traitor, willing to help Russia dominate Europe and even this country. And he is plainly a criminal – he has committed fraud, sexual assault, conspiracy to organize an insurrection, and theft of classified documents. He signaled clearly during Trump v1 that he is corrupt and okay with corruption.
So why would most Americans vote for him? I think the answer lies mostly in rage and fear and hate and ignorance. This country is still largely ruled by racism and sexism. And resentment and entitlement, too.
The consequences are going to be horrific.
It’s not the end of the world. But it’s the likely end of a climate that humans can comfortably tolerate, as we will see a fossil fuel frenzy. The hotter planet that will cause unquestionably will compromise food security around the world, increase flash flooding in many places, result in droughts that are more severe and more common, drive higher sea levels that will increasingly impact our coastal cities, and continue to decimate Earth's biodiversity.
Most Americans want, apparently, a society in which only one set of religious beliefs is permitted – that of the "Christians" – and in which social policies of all types are dictated by clerics who do not regard women and men as equal and who despise science.
Most Americans seemingly desire a government where one man is above the law, where corporations and billionaires set the priorities, and where outright dishonesty, theft, graft, and blackmail of the type seen in Trump v1 are encouraged and rewarded.
Most Americans are okay, I guess, with the likelihood that this country will abandon its allies and thus sew distrust of it around the world, the alienation of Americans, and encourage chaos everywhere as cruel regimes and ambitious nations take advantage of our new isolationism.
Most Americans believe that presidents control the price of goods and services. Of course, they do not. And most Americans think that tariffs, which are essentially a sales tax, will lower those prices. They will not.
Most Americans forget that immigrants are crucial to our economy and our culture. Without them, employers will have difficulty filling positions in numerous industries, including the agricultural sector. That, too, will mean higher prices.
I think it's silly to buy into the idea that biological sex is totally fluid. While I'm not dumb enough to think biological sex is binary, either, it's obvious Democrats emphasize this segment of our society too much. And advocacy for abortion rights, on a national level, just are not enough to drive Democratic election wins. Just ask Mark Udall. And Senator Tester. And Senator Brown. Those issues could be helpful if the Democratic party had an economic message that most people either understood or agreed with, but it does not. Yes, Mr. Biden has helped unions, but Democrats in general have done little for them or for wages.
As I've often said, Democrats talk a good game, but when given power, they resort to cautious, often do-nothing "moderation."
The U.S. has bought itself a dark future. It'll be a future with a huge economic downturn, a return of racial hatred and apartheid facilitated by our own government, willful ignorance of the threat of climate change, and utter abandonment of any pretense that we are a nation of laws and not of men.
Good luck, fellow Americans.
The sad fact is a lot of Americans are shitty people. And it's been like that for a couple of centuries. Lather. Rinse. Repeat
"The sad fact is a lot of Americans are shitty people"
That is, and has been, so true. And then you combine that with a heavy dose of stupidity.
I was watching a young Latino explain why he voted for Trump. He said that he did so because of Trump's business background and that his connections with people around the world would help fix the economy.
You can't make this stuff up.
Plus, the word "economy" is something most people don't understand, and frankly don't care to. To millions "ecomony" means their own financial situation. High prices mean economy bad. Prices lower under trump. Therefore trump good for economy. The fact that his deportation master plan will cost on the order of $100 B doesn't enter into luddite thinking. And here we are. Looking forward to US troops on the streets of Aurora? That is the direction things are heading.
Well, at least farmers can count on another multibillion dollar welfare check, funded by increasing the national debt, from Trump as he destroys their productive capacity by shipping out all their workers. Who cares about food shortages and skyrocketing prices as long as you've cleansed the blood of the nation?
I wouldn't count out Trump's solution to the national debt will be declaring national bankruptcy. It's worked so well for him in the past. That would solve the problem of Social Security, because their funds are held in Treasury bonds. No money, no Social Security. Problem solved!
Democratic Voter Turnout was Down?
I don't think we have the end results yet, but I saw this comment from someone:
Looks like Wall Street is looking forward to a Ferengi Rules of Acquisition economy. The DOW is up over 1,500 points with Nasdaq and S&P 500 also up about 3% to new records. Naturally Tesla stock is up almost 15% in anticipation of Trump-manna raining down on him. Also, long term interest rates are rising in anticipation of tariff-led inflation.
Ferengi society would suck. At least it's not a full on dictatorship.
Except there is a Handmaids Tale element to it.
Not all Greens are Russian stooges. But I think Jill Stein is. as I’ve written before in this space, I lost all respect for her after that dinner with Putin.
And even in this election, there was evidence that Russian funds were going for ads that said don’t vote or under vote the Presidential election , because, Harris does not sufficiently support the Palestinian cause. .
This is stupid – you have to have an electoral strategy and a long-term strategy. And as I remarked to several of my more, progressive friends, you’re not gonna help children in Gaza by electing Donald Trump.
But many MAGA leadership ARE willing and well-paid Russian agents: Musk, Bannon, Miller, Trump himself, etc.
Putin's memoirs will likely be titled "Americans are dumber than even I had hoped"