It’s time once again to cast your votes for who you think will be the respective Presidential nominees.
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Remember – we aren’t asking who you want to win the nomination, but who you believe will be the eventual winner. Your opinions are a good gauge of the changing fortunes of candidates from a Colorado perspective.
Fred Thompson makes his first appearance in the poll this time around.
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once again, Rudy Giuliani has a commanding lead over his rivals. Look at poor John McLame, edging out Tom Tancredo by one vote!
Rudy would have a better chance running as a Democrat.
His lead now is a function of name recognition and right wing hatred of John McCain. When they get a closer look at Rudy and his “radical” postions, his numbers will drop (sort of like Howard Dean’s did).
If Thompson gets in, and at this point I think he will, he will be the nominee.
Rudy stands a much better chance than you think–you misunderestimate the conservative passion for winning the War on Terror–but ultimately I think it will be too difficult to get over what will be formiddable opposition from social conservatives. I doubt Thompson gets in to this thing–it’s just too late–and that will leave Mitt Romney.
Actually you are mistaken about it being too late for Thompson. Especiallyt when he has the whole Paul Harvey mechanism at his disposal for the next few weeks. Plus he is having a conference with about 40 Republicans fromthe House of Representatives in mid april, who will be giving him donor lists and volunteers. Don’t discount Frist either – his VOLPAC is squarely behind Thompson as well.
There is a lot more going on than you are aware of.
http://coloradoansfo…
Its a cheerleader site, but you can glean a few things from there.
I love it when people say that here.
Sounds so sinister.
“Sinister” is derived from “sinestro,” meaning “left,” as in left-handed. (A lot of you already knew that one, I bet).
The moral: Left-handed people say “there’s a lot more going on than you are aware of” 50% more often than right-handed people. Now THAT’S good trivia!
The real moral:
Left-handed people makeup 99% more stats than righties. 🙂
This blog is not exactly wholly representative of the average Republican primary voter. I wouldn’t put too much credence in the poll–it’s just interesting to see what people here think about things.
I just have to ask, though, why you’re so gaga for Giuliani. He’s with you on the gay stuff but he’s also ardently neo-conservative on the war and foreign policy (which is why he’s leading in GOP polls). If Bush makes you crazy why do you think Rudy will be any different? Sure, you may get a few token rights here and there, you won’t have to worry about a marriage amendment, but you’ll also have more anti-terror measures like the Patriot Act, stronger surveillance, and a much more aggressive foreign policy. For what it’s worth, I find it amusing and cheering that you have embraced the neo-conservative vision of the world, but, with that said, I have to question how serious you are.
The question is: who do you think will get the R nomination.
Giuliani seems to be weathering all the storms that come his way; the image of “America’s Mayor” seems to be holding up. McCain, OTOH, is sinking rapidly; his ardent pro-war stance is going over like a lead ballon, while at the same time GOP conservatives don’t trust him. Romney seems to have dropped back a bit, and appears to be the one most damaged by the mention of other potential candidates; that to me means his supporters aren’t set on their candidate.
I’m in complete agreement with you on your analysis of Giuliani, BTW; if I were looking for the “moderate” in this race, it would probably be Romney, despite his recent moves to the Right.
so far because the “storms” are little more than rainclouds at this point in the campaign. When the debates start and Brownback starts ripping him for his support of a woman’s right to choose, and Tancredo starts ripping him on his living with a gay couple and Huckabee starts ripping him on his support of gun control….that will the the hurricane that will knock him down.
Yeah, can’t wait until the GOP vulture tear at his entrails that he’s not a bonified conservative. You’ll see his numbers drop like the New Years ball in Times Square.
Aside from Giuliani’s positions on some of the “hot button” issues, there are two potentially big storm clouds on the horizon.
One, it’s looking more and more likely that Bernie Kerik, Giuliani’s police commissioner while mayor, is about to be indict on some serious criminal charges. If charged, Kerik will probably be facing trial just about the time the people in Iowa and N.H. are getting ready to vote next winter.
Second, Donna Hanover is no doubt busy penning her account of life with (and divorce from) Rudy. That will probably be out in hard cover with Donna doing the talk show circuit plugging the book during the primary season next year.
We will get to see how Rudy survives (or implodes as a result of) these two challenges, much like we saw Bill Clinton finesse the Gennifer Flowers’ incident 16 years ago.
(Gennifer Flowers).
My,time flies when you are having fun.
It’s hard to tell whether you read so carelessly you actually think he’s endorsing Guiliani, or if you’re just trying really hard to detour the debate. I don’t suppose you’ll tell us.
He’s planning on registering Republican and actually voting for the guy in the caucuses. I suppose that could be to get the least offensive GOP candidate so if a Republican happens to beat Hillary he won’t be so bad. But I’m pretty sure OQD actually wants Rudy to win this thing…
And, I mean, ‘RUDY ROCKS’ is a pretty resounding endorsement.
Except that OQD spoke of registering GOP only under certain circumstances (can’t remember them) to vote for Rudy in the primary, and I believe he said there’s only one Dem (Hillary I think) who’d he’d vote against in the general election, if Rudy is in fact the nominee. So it’s not exactly love, but it’s much stronger support for the man than you might expect.
OQD, have I written the truth about your position?
My mixed feeling towards Hillary have been warming up, so as I’ve explained in my posting below, if it’s Rudy v. Hillary, I’m not quite sure how I would vote in the general election. Both have clear strengths and weaknesses.
I’m realistic to know that there will never be a perfect candidate, so you’re always going to be stuck selecting the lesser of two evils.
What I really want is to hedge my bets by seeing the two major parties nominate candidates who are reasonably acceptable, and neither of whom is a nut case (left or right) or a moron.
Giuliani v. Rodham Clinton is a fine match up for me.
I’m liberal but have voted for Republicans in the past when I thought they were the best candidate. To date, that’s never been in any legislative or top executive position race, just downticket races, but Giuliani is the first GOP presidential contender I’ve ever given serious consideration. Still, besides the war I think Rudy will come down in favor of keeping the Patriot Act as strong as Bush likes it, and he’s apparently on the record, per Toodles, that he’ll put strict constructionists on the SCOTUS bench. That might just be a bone he’s throwing the base, but it’s worrisome.
If it is Giuliani V Rodham Clinton it will be the ugliest, most negative presidential race ever, by far, without reservation.
As for how I vote in Nov., that’s still up in the air. I could conceive of voting for Giuliani. Or I might vote for Hillary. I cannot conceive of ever voting for McCain, Romney, Gingrich, Brownback, Mossback, Tancredo, Hunter, Huckabee or any of the rest of the pack.
D.D.H.G.L.Q. raises one valid point. I’m a little uncomfortable with Rudy’s position of Iraq. He’s not as outspoken on the issue as John McCain (probably because unlike McCain, Rudy doesn’t have to debate and vote on the supplemental appropriations bill.)
If I were designing the ideal GOP candidate, that candidate would have Rudy’s positions on social issues and Chuck Hagel’s position on Iraq.
he would be a democrat 😉
in fact, that would be any of the announced Democratic candidates running (and most of the unannounced ones, too).
The poll here is not very representative. “My” guy in the race showed up with a pretty big splash. Cut points off Giuliani, reduced Romney to statistical noise, and pretty much shook up the whole old-boy wheeling and dealing set. He even is statistically in a dead heat (44% to 43%) with Hillary in the last nation wide Rasmussen phone poll. He hasn’t declared yet, and is “considering” it.
Fred Thompson. Truly grass roots – just look at Dobson’s attack dog turn on him the other day. (For me, anyone that can provoke “Spongebob” Dobson into publicly being a partisan fool, well they get points in my book). INteresting details are comign out with Dobson tryign to backpedal – but it also came out that Dobson called the reporter, not the other way around. Funny how its helped, rather than hurt, Thompson. Teflon Ron anyone?
If you want more info, a good source are the connected folks at DraftFredThompson.com. They have had chats with Frist, Rep Zach Wamp (R-Tenn), Fred Barnes, and others. Its a bit thick to wade through – very partisan (unapologetically so).
Also do not discount that there are over 4000 registered members there and they have close to 1000 that have volunteered their names, addresses and phone numbers to serve as donors or volunteers for grass roots setups in a lot of states. Also, grassrootsvoter.com has collected over 4000 volunteer names and addresses nationally (out of over 6000 petition signatures), representing all 50 states.
If you haven’t been paying attention, there is a site to catch up – my little news aggregation blog. Pardon any oddities there – I’ve never done a blog, nor a website before. Just doing what looks good to me, and a little bit of hacking thanks to a “Dummies” book on CSS and HTML.
http://Coloradoansfo…
Right now its all cherry-picked national news. I’m openly partisan, so don’t expect much balance from my blog. And the reason its all national news? Well there is not much Colorado specific going on around the “hypestorm” with Fred Thompson right now. But I have been getting some interesting emails, and we are spreparing to set up a few meetings (maybe 5 people each) and basic organziation here in Colorado, as well as several I know in Tennessee (of course), Virginia, Texas, Florida, Iowa and New Hapshire.
This is all grass roots. The professional pols don’t know quite what to make of us, and we don’t know what we are doing since none of us has ever done this sort of thing; so we are learnign as we go. Think “Deaniacs”, but with a bit more maturity (and money) – and a candidate that will never do that “Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeaagh” thing.
Its a start.
I used to have it all at coloradans4fredthompson.blogspot.com, but I was told the proper spelling is “Coloradoan”. I’ve always spelled it the way I say it. I live in Aurora so that’s my excuse. (And if we can rid the party state party of Beauprez, so much the better)
as a moderate republican I wholeheartedly support Rudy. I believe he’s one of the few republicans on the ticket who can appeal to the cross-over dem voter as well as the independent. Largely, this is because of his moderate, if not left-leaning, social views. I think the left if is apoplectic of religiosity in the public square that any social conservative, like a Thompson, will struggle appealing to the moderates in the general election. Further, McCain has lost any momentum he had from 2000 and is viewed from the right as a soft republican who has been pathetic on core issues excluding the war and the mods have been increasingly disillusioned as a result of his overt attempt to reposition as a righty – as evidenced by the recent revelation that he seriously flirted with switching parties after 2000. The rest of the field is weak and has not a shot at winning the nomination – money and momentum are the enemies of the second tier candidates.
Also, there is an interesting webblog by a local firefighter here in the metro area supporting Giuliani. http://www.rudysfirefighters.com
The International Association of Firefighters initially declined to invite Rudy Giuliani to its presidential forum this month. They’re still pissed off that Giuliani ordered firefighters stop searching ground zero for their dead comrades in November of 2001.
The Association’s President wrote: “The fundamental lack of respect that Giuliani showed is unforgivable. Our disdain for him is not about issues or a disputed contract. It is about a visceral, personal affront to the fallen, to our union and indeed, to every one of us who has ever risked our lives by going into a burning building to save lives and property.”
“We have heard from some of our affiliates that Giuliani’s campaign is beginning to reach out to our locals, looking to build support. If you are contacted by Giuliani…we hope you will not just say, “No,” but, “*Hell no*.”
http://www.iaff.org/…
I expect there will be commercials with NYC firefighters urging America to vote against Giuliani if he’s nominated.
go see what was written by a firefighter in the trenches before you pass the judgement that rudy pulled them off that pile. Also, the IAFF has a long history of overwhelmingly supporting dems at all levels.
Even with all my gripping and the fact that Ron paul is in the top 5, his name is still not on the list. And yet, we have NOBODIES on here. Just Amazing.
Now, with that out of the way, Rudi will probably win. The more that the Bush brothers and anybody connected to them (such as owens) push Mitt, the more that he will go down.
McCain has ZERO chance. He has been a rebel within the party for a long time, that makes him appeal to moderates and intelligencias. But his recent pandering to the neo-con will not win the right wing fascists over. Folks like Dobson will see it for what it is. And that pandering will KILL his appeal to the left wing.
Cool thing about this, is that Rudi will be slaughtered if he wins the republican nod. The dems will have a heyday just pointing out truthfulness on him. While they may decide to do a swift boat set of lies, it will not be needed. Truth is, that Rudi is just about the worse candidate that the republicans could have. He was failing HUGE in NYC prior to the attack. His real record will be out in the open if he wins the nomination. In addition, NYC is a big dem city. I have no doubt that they will simply show the truth of how well Rudi did during post-911 (not very good; media just did not cover it for fear of anti patriotism and orders from above).
Paul is no longer in top 5 according fox. But he is according to others. But of course, a poll from Fox, is akin to a poll from pravda.
and, where do you get your facts from? Because, you seem to have information on Rudy’s record that isn’t public or known elsewhere?
the fact that he was in the process of being ousted out of NYC just prior to 911? That was in the press. He was vilified in part because of his running around with every skirt that came. Then he hooked up with another, booted his wife of the time, and then had his new mistress move in to the NYC “white house”. In fact, his kids will have NOTHING to do with him because of how shabby he treated his wife of the time. But follow some of the links coming out of NYC and you will see that there is much more dirt on him that will hurt him. Basically, he ran NYC poorly. Google is your friend.
If you’re suggesting there were liberal New Yorkers who hated Rudy, shocking. My god, how can that be? In a city as conservatively oriented as NY!The reason he left office – he was term-limited…he couldn’t run again.
Please, you need to do more than a rudimentary search on google. Fact, he decreased crime in NY while major cities showed increases during that same period, tax revenues increased under his tenure while they were declining before his entry into office, tourism increased, and on and on. I’ll be the first to admit, his personal life isn’t pretty and it may very well affect his ability to draw the so-con vote, particularly if a F. Thompson gets in the race. But, outside of his liberal views on guns, gays and abortion – he’s ardently conservative fiscally and with respect to foreign policy. I am not a so-con, so I don’t give a rats patoot about how many wives he’s had or what he’s done to aggrieve his kids. Doesn’t mean squat to me…then again, I can’t speak for the so-cons on those issues. He’ll either sink or swim. If he sinks I suspect it’ll be because of his socially liberal views.
And only care about the manner of his marriages ending (did he cheat, lie, etc) as opposed to how many he’s had. And the only reason the cheating and lying thing would bother me is because it’s a poor reflection of his character-not nessicarily because of my views on morals.
As a rudy supporter, I knew his personal life and social views would play a significant role in getting the social conservative vote. For me, I am far more interested in how he’d manage the country fiscally and with respect to his foreign policy stances.
If he brought us peace and prosperity, but got a BJ in the Oval Office, that would be OK, right?
Jus’ checking.
If he brought us peace and prosperity, but got a BJ in the Oval Office, that would be OK, right?
If he brought us peace and prosperity, but got a publicized BJ in the Oval Office, that would be OK, right?
After all, most pres. were pretty bad about this. In light of Rudi’s actions of the past, if he (and the majority of the republicans and probably most of the dems) gets in, he will also be doing the same and more.
That Mary talked Abe into a little action there, “Come on, Abe honey, let’s just, you know, break it in. You ARE the first Republican president, after all.”
Just like Ronnie, the first of the Family Values hypocrites. At least the Bushes, to my knowledge, are all on speaking terms with their kids, even if only to ask for bail money.
And, that makes bill the paragon of family viture?
your “logic” jumps the tracks.
I know it is very hard for you to do, but please stay on topic.
The relationship between the kids and the parents was the topic, not the cost of copper in Peru. Or Billl.
At least the Bushes, to my knowledge, are all on speaking terms with their kids, even if only to ask for bail money.
I guess that a family that does drugs together stays together. Now, I wonder if the girls also sell, like their old man did?
There was no place to vote for Bob Beauprez.