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April 09, 2007 08:09 PM UTC

Fred Thompson's 'Pirates of Tehran' article moves him closer to presidential run

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  • by: Another skeptic

If this column by former Sen. Thompson isn’t a high five to those who want him to run for the GOP presidential nomination, what is it?

Link to his www.redstate.com column is here:

http://www.redstate….

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13 thoughts on “Fred Thompson’s ‘Pirates of Tehran’ article moves him closer to presidential run

  1. Naturally I don’t agree with much of what they say, and their articles are, shall we say, “passionate” in the way dailykos diaries can be. But it’s no hack-job site like so many right wing blogs out there.

    1. They got a nice scoop with the Thompson piece.

      I don’t like the design, but that’s me.

      The state blogs links are pretty sparse and don’t include facethestate.com, indicated the sites aren’t related.

      I don’t frequent conservative blogs as a rule, so I don’t have much to compare with. Don’t visit liberal ones, other than this one, either.

  2. I just think it’s way too late to get into this race.  Most of the top talent is spoken for, a lot of money has been raised.  If he gets in, I just don’t think he’ll go far.

    But Thompson would be a top choice for V.P. for any of the three “top tier” candidates.

    1. Fred Thompson would be way behind, no question about that.

      The question is whether he’s the Obama of the GOP? I posted this piece on my board and got just as strong a reaction to Thompson as we’ve seen to Obama.

      Interesting.

      1. I’m not familar enough with internet fund raising, but I think it favors Dems at this point.  I think Republicans are good at using it for organizational purposes.  If Thompson could use the internet to catch up, he and his team would learn enough lessons to make them a hot item in GOP circles for some time to come.

        If Thompson got in, it sure would make things interesting, but he would also be in a good position if he made the right moves, flirted, and then got the number two spot.  He would balance any possible republican ticket nicely, especially Romney or Giuliani

      2. the Obama of the GOP. But if he is he’s more like Obama in 2004 than Obama today in terms of his place in the national conscience. Look for him to run in 2012 should the Dems win the White House in ’08, or VP contention this time around.

    2. have asked the wrong question.  What if the question is, Did everyone else get in too early?  Hearing about every candidate every day for over a year and a half can burn people out about them, and it certainly gives the candidates more opportunities to put their foot in their mouths.

      Fred Thompson may be biding his time before making an announcement.  That being said, there is a window from the time people start talking about you seriously as a candidate and when you should announce.

      1. I would be inclined to say no.  John Kerry announced in early 2004.  In all reality, this cycle was only a couple months earlier.  If one or two candidates had jumped the gun and announced way early, there could be backlash but since everybody did it, everyone else thinking about it is precieved the odd man out (Gingrich, and maybe Thompson).

        What I was surprised to see is the early nature of endorsements.  People started lining up in camps so early.  If Thompson does get in and there is campaign staff leaving Romney, Giuliani, and McCain, that is really going to suck all around.  There will be a lot of grudges….along the lines that divided Republicans in CO in 2004’s senate race

    3. This race may be different from other historical races.  In the past, candidates who have gotten in early have needed the time to create themselves in front of the electorate.  In this case, Rudy and McCain are already very well known to the primary voters (not so much with Romney).  What creates the opening for Thompson is that while everyone knows the top two candidates, no one likes them.  Rudy and McCain have terrific name ID and yet are unpopular with the primary voters.  Romney seems to have less than no traction with voters, and his only hope is to buy his way out of a hole with good fundraising. 

      To this point, Thompson has played the game very well.  He is done zero campaigning and yet is more popular and has more potential than Romney and will likely pass McCain when as soon as a run becomes official.  Furthermore, Gingrich is polling fairly well 10%, but may not run if Thompson jumps into the race.  I would guess that virtually all of Gingrich supporters prefer the conservative Thompson candidacy over Rudy or McCain which could launch Thompson into 1st by summer time. 

      Is it too late?  Maybe he will raise less money, but I still think this may be Thompson’s race to lose now.

      1. Fred Thompson is famous among TV watchers, if not among tv illiterates like me.

        Candidates need money to win name recognition. Given equal name recognition, money doesn’t make that much difference. Thus, Thompson has what other candidates are trying to buy, fame. While insiders like George Will have some quibbles with Thompson’s record as a senator, the general public don’t care about how he voted on campaign reform or that he supported McCain in 2000.

        They just want a smart, communicative leader whose values have been consistent throughout his career. None of the other GOP candidates offer Thompson’s consistency nor his “lack of ambition” for power.

        1. I haven’t seen a lot that would indicate that Thompson has the name recognition that Giuliani and McCain has.  His poll numbers seem to be propped up by the unpopularity or dissatisfaction with McCain, Giuliani, and Romney.  That shows an opening in the field, but I don’t think that it supports the theory that the name rec. is the same. 

          If my theory is correct, Thompson is going to have to raise a lot of money.  Not only to buy name rec. but to show that he is a serious candidate.  If he’s going to do this, he needs to lay the ground work now.  Sure, if he waits to announce, he’ll get some good press but all the top talent will be too far committed to be able to switch campaigns.

          I do agree that the quibbs that some have with Thompson isn’t going to matter much.  They can’t be anything compared to some of the problems that McCain, Giuliani and Romney have

  3. One wonders what Fred Thompson would prefer to have seen.  Perhaps he’d rather they had been executed, or rotted away in an Iranian prison for the rest of their lives?  If we were okay with their continued torture or deaths, we certainly could have tried to mete out appropriate punishment.  Is that really all that matters?

    Or perhaps its also important that more than a dozen people can be home with their families now because cooler heads prevailed.

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