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April 12, 2007 03:28 PM UTC

Thursday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

Yeeeeaaaarrr! [sic]

–Howard Dean

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  1. Vonnegut-May he Rest in Peace:

    From his book God Bless You Mr. Rosewater-

    “Hello, babies. Welcome to Earth. It’s hot in the summer and cold in the winter. It’s round and wet and crowded. At the outside, babies, you’ve got about a hundred years here. There’s only one rule that I know of, babies – `God damn it, you’ve got to be kind.’ “

  2. Explosion Rocks Iraqi Parliament

    BAGHDAD Apr 12, 2007 (AP)- A bomb rocked Iraq’s parliament building in the heavily fortified Green Zone Thursday, killing at least two lawmakers in a stunning security breach in the third month of a U.S.-Iraqi crackdown on violence in the capital, officials said.

    The parliament bombing came hours after a suicide truck bomb exploded on a major bridge in Baghdad, collapsing the steel structure and sending cars tumbling into the Tigris River, police and witnesses said. At least 10 people were killed.

    read more…

  3. Musgrave is getting plenty of local press during this week. They tell us with a straight face that she’s passionate about education.

    I hear both Paccione and Eidsness were at her Fort Collins forum yesterday.

    1. She stayed away from social issues and concentrated on economic and fiscal issues.  Her answers, altho political as you would expect from a politician, were pausable and appropriate for the audience.  She didn’t duck anything and, when she disagreed with something, said so.

      Health care was the elephant in the room.  She incorrectly called single payer health care systems socialized medicine but was sympathetic to both the employer and employee concerns about access and cost.

      Even id you dislike her, don’t underestimate her effectiveness when she needs to be.

  4. As I’m sure everyone here knows, Dean is in Denver today.  Hopefully, he can get labor to understand the situation in this state.

    The frustrating thing about this is that the whole situation works out bad for the Dems and good for the GOP either way.  If Ritter caves and accedes to Labor’s demands, the GOP can claim that he and the Dems are weak, union pawns who do whatever their bosses in big labor tell them to do.  If Ritter refuses to play ball with labor and that leads to protests and picket lines during the convention, it looks like the national Dems and labor are completely out of touch and inconsiderate of the feelings of Coloradoans, setting back any sympathy that labor may have had among the general public.  It’s a lose/lose for the Dems and local labor, and the only way out of the situation is to somehow convince national labor to stop what they’re doing.

    1. Im pro-union, but I think this situation has gotten out of hand. The Teamsters have need to understand that this isn’t New Jersey. If they wanted sympathy for unions, or to attract members, they have balked.

  5. Americans are weary enough of presidential candidates who blurt out one of those intellectually dishonest sound bites known as “the pander” when they are caught in the last moments of a do-or-die race. But what are they to make of a candidate who goes straight to the pandering, with comments that are offensive to millions of people?

    That’s what we found ourselves asking when Rudolph Giuliani told reporters in Alabama that it should be up to the state to decide whether to fly the Confederate battle flag over its Capitol. Never mind that the flag has not flown there for nearly 15 years. Never mind that nobody is pushing to return it. Never mind that lawsuits have been decided on this issue and that millions of Americans find the standard to be a symbol of slavery and repression.

    Explaining his let-them-fly-flags philosophy, he declaimed that one of the “great beauties” of American government is that “we can make different decisions in different parts of the country.”

    He added: “We have different sensitivities.”

    Mr. Giuliani cannot truly believe the issues surrounding the Confederate flag are just a matter of local taste. The Civil War, the civil rights movement and the Supreme Court answered that question. Even the Southern states have largely moved on.

    If he missed all of that, surely he noticed how Senator John McCain humiliated himself in 2000 over the flag in a vain attempt to win the primary in South Carolina. There is no excusing that pandering, but at least the flag was an issue that year in that state. In 2007, Mr. Giuliani simply looks as if he wants to convince voters that no matter what his beliefs are, they should vote for him anyway because he’s prepared to put them aside.

    He said he believes in the right to own guns, but he would let the states decide how to regulate them. The other day he said he was for abortion rights and preened about his political courage. Then he refused to say whether states should spend public money on abortions or require a woman to view an ultrasound picture of her fetus before an abortion.

    Mr. Giuliani ought to stop waving in the wind, because that would be the right thing to do. It is also not working. Southern political strategists said he’s too moderate on abortion and pronounced him dead in their states. In Alabama, the local press mocked him for failing to recognize an actual Confederate battle flag on a flagpole. Americans know a pander when they see one.

    http://www.nytimes.c

  6. I’ve got some killer work for the next month and so won’t be posting here. Just wanted to let you all know it’s not personal – just life getting busy. (Maybe I should get a job at CU so I can just post all day.)

    Take care and keep up the good fight all. See you in a month.

    – dave

    1.   The weblink below goes to a recent MoveOn.org town hall session where all participating Dem presidential candidates responded to the following question: “What is the best and fastest way to get out of Iraq?”  Each candidate gets ten minutes–a five minute summary statement, then two follow-up questions, then a closing statement.  The audio recordings are collected at the website.  I found it very informative to hear the candidates give their answers in their own words.

  7. Recently, Washington Sen. Joseph Lieberman (D-Conn.) came to the Senate floor with a look of sad concern on his face. He was deeply troubled, he said, at the vulgar, morally repugnant content of the new TV season. “We are lowering the standards of what is acceptable in our society and we are sending a message to our children,” he said. He denounced an “acceptance of rude language, foul imagery and gross behavior in the entertainment mainstream.”

    . . . Funny thing: The previous morning, Lieberman had been a guest, as is his regular custom, on the Don Imus radio show on WFAN, a program that seems to get the bulk of its yuks from penis references.

    . . . Lieberman worries, on the Senate floor, that the increasing vulgarity of network TV “is lowering the standards of what we accept on television, particularly in what used to be family programing hours.”

    But he’s talking out of both sides of his mouth. This week’s moments of supposed humor on Imus, broadcast at an hour when children are rising for school, included a reference to Attorney General Janet Reno in crotchless pantyhose, an interview with Screw Magazine’s Al Goldstein and a drunken woman saying “s—” over the air. Teehee.

    As a country, and as a culture…we better get a grip. Crazyness is loose upon the land…….follow the money.

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