We’ve learned that former State Board of Education member Jared Polis will indeed run for Congress in CD-2, setting the stage for a three-way primary between himself, Senate President Joan Fitz-Gerald, and lesser-known environmentalist Will Shafroth.
A formal announcement is expected in the next few weeks, but as usual you heard it here first.
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Does ANYBODY like this guy anymore?
….and, thus, I’ve reserved judgment thus far. But, his Amend. 41 connection counts against him in my tally.
Do you really think the 41 fight will hurt him anymore? Nope, Joan can bring it up but trying to attack on him with something that passed by such a large spread.
Come on folks, think about it from the sheep of a voter. Jared can out spend Joan even if he did hire mistakes to run his bid for Congress.
I said it hurts him in my eyes. Although my eyes may be irrelevant to him (I don’t live in CD 2), my wallet could matter to him. Of course, if he’s going to rely mostly on his own money, my wallet won’t matter either.
will look favorably on a successful campaign to end lobbyist influence in the State. The details of 41 squabbling will be lost on most, IMHO.
… who don’t follow this kind of thing…” don’t get you through a primary. I don’t see him beating Joan there. Lots of rich candidates find that while winning definitely takes lots of money, money alone isn’t always enough.
Think about it from the sheep of a voter? Is this a bit of freudian typing? 🙂
but based on the picture on his website, I can conclude he is cute as a bug:)
He’s also (a) taken, and (b) you’re not his type…
Just savin’ you some effort, that’s all. ;^)
I wasn’t looking for him on Match.com. (But I think you underestimate my appeal;)
Jared is a good guy and I don’t think amedment 41 will hurt him a bit. In fact I think it is still a net positive for him. Most voters aren’t following this inside baseball of whats happened after it past. All a lot of people will know is that they voted for it and he was a big part of it. It really cuts both ways and Joan will have a hard time knocking him down over this.
a drag name?
but not in this case. I know Jared is gay, I was just having some fun.
it would be to have another openly gay Rep. in congress. It could do wonders to slowly mend Colorado’s anti-gay image too.
What makes you think that (I ask you in all honesty, not to argue)?
Yes on Amendment 2 + No on Ref. I + Madam Musgrave + Allard + Focus on the Family = anti-gay.
But, I was never good at math
In some sense, we’re still recovering from Barbra Streisand’s tourism boycott.
Ok, I couldn’t say that with a straight face. Bwa-ha-ha-ha!
But seriously, Colorado’s public image on social issues was cemented for out-of-staters back then. And having some seriously retrograde Congresspeople doesn’t help.
I don’t think Amdt. 41 is doing him any favors, and I didn’t vote for it because of the wording, but he’s generally a good guy who seems to care a lot about education…
Count me among your supporters!
Colorado’s next “CD-5”.
I think Polis has a shot. He’s got money, people owe him favors, and even though Amendment 41 may be a wieght around his neck, I don’t think that alone will sink him.
It’s going to be a nasty primary in any case….
really? hadn’t heard that? who owes jared favors? sounds exactly like the type of thing 41 was supposed to protect against
Was one of the multi-million dollar donors that helped bank roll the Dems take over of both chambers in 2004. If that doesn’t matter in the minds of his fellow dems, I don’t know what will….
Obviously it doesn’t matter to Fitz-Gerald who benefited the most from the 2004 takeover.
no word on which horse in the race Pat Stryker is backing….
I wasn’t aware. Good info!
is very close to Joan and is Tim Gill’s political guy.
Tim will support Joan. Additionally, he now has a nationwide network of wealthy donors who follow his lead on political matters.
You think that nationwide donors are going drop money on a Democratic Primary when the seat is a relatively safe seat for Dems and the money could be used to win Democratic seats elsewhere? I don’t think so. They may dump a few bucks onto whoever wins the primary, but it isn’t in the best interests of people looking at the big picture to spend money on a primary like this. The D in Congress is what is important to most people out of state, not whose name is in front of it.
Most of Gill’s network is gay activist money. Gay activist money, for the most part, will stay with the gay activist candidate and that is Polis.
Much like EMILY’s list money will be with Joan.
This has all the appearances of being a left wing version of the ’06 C.D. 5 GOP primary last year.
That a Lamborn doesn’t materialize.
and that distresses me.
Joan is a top notch candidate with lots of experience in the leg.
Along comes the The Rich Kid, and he wants to play NOW at the federal level. Not even willing to run for state house or senate.
I’d give him a better shot if this was two years ago, but with the A.41 debacle, he’s down quite a bit in Parsing’s Big LIne.
Maybe he cares more about federal issues then state nothing wrong with that. In fact I’d rather have a rich guy who is independent then some one like Joan who is bought and sold buy special interest groups.
…not that there’s anything wrong with that.
This term could most people. The phrase “special interest group” is used by people in all parties to discredit their opponents. Every single person involved in politics is a member of some organization. This term is misleading and needs to be retired.
This term could describe most people. The phrase “special interest group” is used by people in all parties to discredit their opponents. Every single person involved in politics is a member of some organization. This term is misleading and needs to be retired.
remember Jared spent over a million to win that schoolboard seat (his opponent well under $100K) and barely won—and this from the guy who is so worried about money’s influence in politics. I’d rather have people who know what they are doing than rich kids who think they can buy their way in
Did you know that some people aren’t fond of career politicians? I know that there a few folks out there that like the idea of a citizen legislator. There are quite a few negatives that can come with “experience” in the legislature.
Oh, and keep pushing the idea that she somehow “deserves” to go to Congress because she paid her dues. That will play well I’m sure.
I don’t know many Dems who will feel that way – I think disliking people with political experience is more a Repub thing. And he has to win a primary first.
Democratic insiders (in other words other elected officials and their staff) tend to, for obvious reasons, like people with “experience.” Coloradans in general though, Democrats and Republicans alike, share some independent ideas and this is one of them. I think it is especially true of the voters in CD-2 (might not be as much the case in Denver). The mix of Mountain West flavor and Boulder liberalism leads to an independent streak in CD-2.
Interestingly, I think that reality is just the opposite of what you said. Take a look at Beauprez. He had plenty of experience while Holtzman was a relative outsider. The GOP chose their candidate based on his “place in line” as you put it in a different post. He got whomped in the general election by another relative outsider.
In addition, let’s not forget that there are 25k more unaffiliated voters in CD-2 than Dems and only 25k more Dems than Repubs. Although Udall is somewhat of an institution, it is not a given that a Democrat will win CD-2. Wadhams has pointed this out and is looking for an opening in CD-2. This alone should give Democrats pause to consider who is the best candidate for CD-2, not who is “first in line.”
That you can’t always go off of registration to determine how a district will vote. For example, MA’s voter registration is Dem, Indy, then Republican. But the Dems alone, though they make the plurality don’t make the majority by themselves. However, the indys there behave like Dems. On paper, MA may also look competitive, but it’s not.
CD 2 isn’t CD 1, but it’s not CD 7. The indys act more like Dems then they do real indys (like suburban denver voters). If Greenlee couldn’t win in 1998, who could possibly win in 2008?
Udall has been an incumbent for the entire life of the current district. All I’m saying is that we don’t know what could happen. People make predictions based on how well Udall has done… but like many incumbents, that could just be because people like Udall, not necessarily all Democrats.
Since the district was created, and Kerry won either 58 or 59 percent. In my opinion, that’s pretty indicative to the nature of the district and the indys there.
Bush received 55% of the vote in CD-3… and we have a strong Democrat sitting there right now. Proof that unless you are in CD-1 or CD-5 in this state, any district can go any direction. I think Democrats would be pretty silly to ignore that fact and think CD-2 is a safe seat. I’m not saying it is LIKELY that a Republican will win that seat. I’m just saying that a moderate conservative that better fits the profile of the district than Joan could have a shot, especially if a Democratic primary gets nasty.
You’re probably right, under the right circumstances any party could win the more marginal district. I would say that it would have to be a perfect storm for us righties to win CD2 and we wouldn’t have a good chance of keeping it. I would rather focus resources on CD7 or CD3…
While I agree with your premise, I can’t think of a Republican in CD2 that would fit the profile
Term limits are usually more popular with Repubs than Dems, so I figured the idea of the citizen legislator would be as well. You are right about Beauprez, though. But then the Repubs just got burned with that dope Coors, so maybe some experience was looking good. Or maybe there is no rule. 🙂
Anyway, I don’t advocate that Dems should award the nomination to whoever is next in line. I am put off by line jumping, which is different in my view. A line jumper is someone who hasn’t done any of the intermediate steps. Coors, for example. It is especially annoying when they get to jump the line because they have a bunch of money. It can turn out well, but it is just kind of offputting.
Polis isn’t a line jumper to the extent Coors was. He has been on schools boards, I think, and been active in promoting various causes. If I weren’t also put off by how bullheaded he was about 41, it wouldn’t probably annoy me as much. It seems all of a piece I guess. But there’s lots of campaign time left, and I could change my mind.
With the money part. I don’t like the idea that people can “buy” elections. It remains to be seen how much of his own money he puts in the race.
is that this will probably lead to publicly financed elections. This is exactly what Joel Hefley said was needed to stop the corruption. Now, I am not a fan of spending more money than we have to, but this is simply a case of spend a little up front to keep from spending LOTS on the rear (so to speak). From my POV, even with 41, we are going to see lots of mischief.
That Republicans in this state like their candidates to have lower office experience, Democrats don’t mind if someone doesn’t have that same experience.
Another interesting observation….Republicans tend to campaign more on what they’ve already done, Democrats tend to campaign more on what they want to do.
From what I see, their is no difference.
And as to accomplishments vs. doing, what Republican wants to say that they ran up massive deficts or was corrupt? 🙂 the truth is that republicans push their agenda just as much. But they tell their followers what they seek to do, while the dems tell the press. If you ever get a chance to meet some of the republicans in person, they will be more than happy to tell you what they want to do as long as you do not have a mic.
Personally, I want to hear what they have done and what they will do.
Beauprez is the exception, not the rule. Musgrave was in the state senate before moving up to congress, Coors got the nomination, but he obivously isn’t Senator-and was general viewed with skeptism by rank and file republicans. Beauprez probably did ok because of his involvement in the state party. If it weren’t for that, I doubt he would have made it out of the primary
It’s odd to say that the “rank and file” Republicans didn’t care for him. If so, they had an obvious choice on the same ballot, Schaffer. But they ignored the Hell of Schaffer when it was time to vote.
Isn’t that overwhelming. And he had trouble uniting the base after that. A good chunk of “rank and files” made up that 40% and they never really warmed up to Coors. And remember, Coors got spanked at the republican state assembly, whereas Salazar lost his only narrowly.
But I guess that’s a matter of opinion.
I thought your point was that Republicans like Senate candidates with experience in other offices. In the 2004 primary, however, Republicans by a large margin chose the the inexperienced candidate over the experienced one. I’m not sure why the state assembly matters. When Republicans as a whole went to the polls, they chose Coors. And it wasn’t close.
Was that in general, Republicans usually prefer candidates for office (lower and higher statewide office and federal offices) to have had experience in the legislature. I think that they like to have a record to examine. Sure, there are and will continue to be exceptions to that “true-ism”, but overall it seems to hold true.
I think with Coors, had he had a elected official position in his past, some of the attacks would not have resonated (s/p?) with republicans…
I don’t like that “jumping the line” attitude either. He should go show us he is good at this first.
Kind of like a democratic Holtzy!
Joan F-G is an expert legislator who hasn’t lost sight of the impact of policymaking on actual people. I have been consistently impressed with her, and I will probably vote for her.
Jared Polis has done some good, too, but when you go to the Dem State Conventions for a few years, you get really sick of that balding asshole behind you who won’t stop talking when the speaker is on.
I know that’s petty, but hey, it’s my vote.
Didn’t she announce that she wasn’t running a week or two ago?
Madden has yet to annouce formally that she won’t run, however she hasn’t made it a secret to those around her. With Steve Adams out of the picture, Joan doesn’t have the control she once had but she’ll pull it off without problems.
It’s sad that Joan, with the personality of a brine shrimp and leadership skills of a billy goat, is going to fill a seat that could otherwise go to a person like Madden.
The lesser of two evils here would be Polis.
I think not. Joan’s a great person if you get to know her.
but being in a leadership position requires to sometimes have to tell people no—-I’m betting there is some sour grapes on this board
never tried dancing with Jared though.
Colorado has sent to Congress. Joan much better fits the mold.
A yes, Pat Schroeder….
are no day at the beach either.
How true, even if we lack real beaches in Colorado.
Not a very good visual there.
that you don’t really give a shit. Please tell me you ignore her looks and listen to what she has to say when you’re evaluating a female candidate.
…because Colorado’s male representatives to Congress ain’t no runway models either.
picturing Lamborn or Allard in a Speedo……not a good visual there, either!
who are yours? Out of curiosity, which members of congress would you want to see in Speedos?
and to really ruin you supper, i once saw rob hernandez in a speedo. i’m still in therapy over that.
I’m so pissed with them all (male/female, D/R) that it’s the only thing I give a shit about. Being that looks are my only criteria these days, Nancy Pelosi and Mary Bono are my two favorite members of congress.
Hope you had a good day. I did.
Is she salty then? You’re new here, aren’t you?
As I said last time you suggested this… Shafroth is not going anywhere. In fact, he is doing very well so far. Let me just say that Pols single hesitation about him (see <-----) is not a problem.
I just think a ‘deal’ will be cut.
Jared does not want Will in the race. He pulls more from Jared than he does from Joan.
I know you are a big Fitz-Gerald supporter, but aside from that, how do you see things breaking down in a way that supports your statement? I see no support for what you are saying. In fact, I think it is just the opposite. I think Jared pulls more votes from Joan than he does from Will.