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January 18, 2006 09:00 AM UTC

Wednesday Open Thread

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  1. I heard this morning on the radio that Barbara O’Brian is going to be Ritter’s running mate. Surprising, but a really good pick. Seems like she will be a bigger part of the overall campaign that previous Lt. Governor candidates since she brings a lot to the table.

  2. Yeah, he certainly has the Denver Irish liberal vote locked up. And that’s a good 45% of the electorate right there! An excellent, excellent move by Ritter.

  3. Upon assuming the presidency, Bush took an oath of office in which he swore to take care that the laws would be faithfully executed. Impeachment cannot be used to remove a President for maladministration, as the debates on ratifying the Constitution show. But President Bush has been guilty of such gross incompetence or reckless indifference to his obligation to execute the laws faithfully as to call into question whether he takes his oath seriously or is capable of doing so.

    Whether it be the recent disclosures of NSA spying on American citizens, even prior to 9/11, or the wilfull flaunting of international treaties, including the geneva conventions against torture, and especially leading the country into attacking a sovereign nation that posed no risk to the United States on a pack of lies, this president thinks hs is above the law. This behavior creates a constitutional crises, and imperils the freedoms generations fought and died to maintain.

    Call your congressman and senators today and support impeaching Bush and Cheney.

  4. Would love to read others’ comments on the Beauprez event at the Grizzly Rose last night.  HUGE crowd, clearly ready to be revved up for the race.  It fizzled.  Leaving aside the weak orgaization of the event (they’ll learn eventually), Bob himself spoke FOREVER, had a very low energy level, and lost the crowd within a few minutes.  The speech was a meandering policy address, not a kickass let’s get ’em talk that he does well.  Following the bizarre kickoff news conference at the Capitol — instead of a front steps rally — people gotta ask who’s running this show?  Others may have contrary views…

  5. IMNSHO, President Bush has done more than failing to uphold his oath; he has directly challenged the Constitutional authority of Congress in its lawmaking ability, and the authority of the Court in ruling on the law.  Those acts directly contravene Articles I and III of the Constitution and constitute justification for impeachment.

    But the history of Presidential impeachment has been less than the bright-line tool that the Founders envisioned; it has been used several times for political purposes less serious than gross maladministration, and though the removal proceedings have all failed, these acts have definitely removed the shiny from the implement.

  6. A President can commit no more serious crime against our democracy than lying to Congress and the American people to get them to support a military action or war. It is not just that it is cowardly and abhorrent to trick others into giving their lives for a nonexistent threat, or even that making false statements might in some circumstances be a crime. It is that the decision to go to war is the gravest decision a nation can make, and in a democracy the people and their elected representatives, when there is no imminent attack on the United States to repel, have the right to make it. Given that the consequences can be death for hundreds, thousands or tens of thousands of people–as well as the diversion of vast sums of money to the war effort–the fraud cannot be tolerated. That both Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon were guilty of misleading the nation into military action and neither was impeached for it makes it more, not less, important to hold Bush accountable.

  7. Just once it would be nice to glean some useful information from this board without wading through some nitwit demanding the impeachment of the President and prophesying the end of the world if it doesn’t happen within the hour.

  8. Here’s a bit of useful information:  You are a whiner.  There.  Now on to our regularly scheduled program…

    PS – I think there is little more important than the consideration of the President’s actions.  And maybe it doesn’t matter to you, but it matters to me that the President continually says peace activists and war critics “give aid and comfort to the enemy”; I’m one of those critics, and I am no traitor to this country, nor do I wish that label formally applied to me as I’m shipped off to some military prison to stifle my free speeech rights, get denied my rights to an attorney, denied my habeas corpus rights, denied any knowledge of the charges brought against me (without a grand jury, if they decide to press specific charges at all…), and denied my rights to a swift trial before a jury of my peers.  All of this has already happened to various “enemy combatants”; it’s only an executive order away for me, and I’m not comfortable about that when the President is already throwing around such language.

  9. PR
    It sounds more like you are being the whiner. You can’t put two sentences down here without talking down the current administration. It sounds more like an obsession to me. Take a chill pill. It’s really not as bad as you make it out to be. Really it will be fine. One day there might be a Democrat in the big office and the sugar plumbs, dumplings, and fairy godmothers will once again reign as they always do when the rightous Dems boot out the evil Reps.

  10. What the hell is with these internet advertisements posting everywhere here? I’m sure that is why I I have a bug that only shows up in this web site. I e-mailed coloradopols but they denied having anything to do with it. But every freaking time I left click, I get a whole new window pop up.
    Anyone?

  11. Not happening on my system, and I’m not getting pop-up blocker warnings, either.  Time to run Spybot, AdAware, and Microsoft’s beta anti-spyware program dude.  Free for personal use (I think AdAware is still free for personal use; if not, the other two are good programs anyway…  Spybot DL page)

  12. Not whining, worried – for myself and for my country.

    I’ve never been impressed with the misuse of Presidential power; I was unhappy with Clinton’s use of “Free Speech Zones”, disappointed with Bush 41’s pardon of Iran-Contra figures, and I’ll be upset with Presidents Democratic, Republican and maybe even other in the future.  But the abuses that this President is committing are much worse – much more fundamental – to my mind.  They go to the heart of our system of government.  And as I stated above, the words this administration are using are words specifically chosen to lay a foundation for the suppression of dissent.

    On my weekends, I sometimes travel around to art shows and fairs selling my photography.  I’ve met a number of people who came to this country from former Soviet bloc countries, and too many of them say how much the Bush Administration reminds them of their own repressed countries.  I’ve never lived through that, but I can read and I can listen, and I can see and hear the rhetoric of fear, nationalism, and marginalization.

    I worry, and I think not needlessly.  This Administration has shown an eagerness to destroy, weaken, or subvert many of the agencies of the Federal Government; it consistently appoints directors hostile to the agencies to which they are assigned.  It is willing to overreach Article I of the Constitution and assign to itself “modification” authority to any law that it pleases.  It is willing to subvert the will of the Courts in countervention of Article III of the Constitution.  It is willing to lie to a Congress controlled by the same party in order to further its desires.  Furthermore, it has support from said Congress – a Congress willing to change and even break its own rules in order to maintain power.

    Why should I not be concerned, exactly?  Or is this like telling a newlywed battered bride that she’ll get used to it and it really isn’t that bad, that her husband really cares for her…

  13. Speaking of spam, I’d say the spam blocking solution isn’t working well.  Aside from blocking a few posts I made last weekend about the Abramoff scandal, I don’t think it’s catching much 🙂  Or at least, so say the Most Recent Comments…

  14. There’s a rumor floating around that a disgruntled Beauprez staffer forked over a bunch of IP info to the Rocky Mountain News in the hopes of taking out John Marshall. RMN already got an Owens staffer canned, if you recall.

  15. Corruption the direct way:  Congresswoman Louise Slaughter (D-NY) will be on C-SPAN in the morning with details on a new unfolding scandal in the House and Senate Majority Leader’s offices (that would be the already-embattled Tom DeLay and Bill Frist).  According to early information, both Frist and DeLay’s offices were also the homes of daytraders, and said daytraders were using insider information on pending legislation in their trades.

    This starts at misuse of federal property and could wind its way all the way through bribery or undue influence charges.  It’s brutal, direct corruption at a time when the GOP least needed it, and if true, it may be the straw that breaks the camel’s back come November 7th.

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