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August 28, 2013 12:25 PM UTC
34 Comments
Please make it stop. She is setting back the whole state by decades…
At this point, I'm honestly hoping that whichever wad it is that finally gets the republican nod to run for governor selects Sen. Marble as a running mate . . .
Wow. Leaving aside the entire matter of the remarks themselves (wouldn't want to start another futile 100+ thread) she sounds as dumb as a post. This is the best the GOP could come up with for her SD? Wow.
Of course I shouldn't be surprised. My R State Rep Conti is at least as dumb. Took a million and a half to take that seat away from Joe Rice and stuff her into it. If they ever had a how low can you go IQ limbo contest for Rs in the General Assembly, picking the winners would be really tough. So many worthy choices.
Such a wide selection, BC! Ray Scott! Steve King!
Baumgardner, Grantham!
What a contest it would be.
We've got a couple of dumb bunnies on the Democratic side too. No where near as many or as brain dead, but we are not above reproach.
True but I still bet the IQ limbo winner would have to be one of the R contenders.
Republicans are racist. This is why they are losing blacks and hispanics by very large numbers. Republicans know nothing about tolerance.
American Diabetes Association:
http://www.diabetes.org/living-with-diabetes/complications/african-americans-and-complications.html
http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/health-topics/topics/sca/atrisk.html
http://minorityhealth.hhs.gov/templates/content.aspx?ID=6456
Instead of mindlessly attacking Sen. Marble, why not look at the facts? Vicki Marble is owed an apology by all of you. She is right and was only trying to help start a real dialogue about these issues.
Those are good stats n3b. Combine those with better barbecue, better chicken, and you got a winner !
Which is the point n3b is trying to avoid.
All ethnic groups face their own particular medical tribulations; if you're of X ethnic group, you suffer an increased risk of certain things. Further, if you live in Y type of environment or have Z diet or exhibit W personality or V behaviors, you are at risk for other medical conditions (or enhancing risks you already have from pick-a-letter-and-trait existence…).
None of which explains why Sen. Marble decided that black people were sicker because they (apparently exclusively to other ethnicities or demographics) ate fried chicken and BBQ all the time.
Vicki did NOT say fried chicken. She said chicken.
And BBQ is a cooking technique, not a food.
And while the rates may be higher for obesity and diabetes among African Americans than for whites, they are skyrocketing among all groups. There are higher percentages of overweight and obese people in the thinnest on average states than there were in the fattest on average states a couple of decades ago. There are exploding numbers of young children with type 2 diabetes, which used to be called old age onset as opposed to juvenile, in every group..It's an across the board problem.
I would wager that traditional or stereotypical ethnic food preferences have a lot less to do with the disparity than the fact that its very hard to get enough healthy food to eat if you're poor. Fatty starchy food is cheaper than lean quality meat, fish chicken, whole grains, and fruits and vegetables. Fast food is often cheaper than buying the ingredients for making healthy meals at home. The poor don't go to the gym or have easy access to low supermarket prices in their neighborhoods or to quality education on nutrition.
African Americans are over represented among the poor and low income. I wonder how much of the disparity would disappear comparing whites, Hispanics and African Americans who are at the same income level.
I bet poor white Americans have higher rates of obesity and diabetes than all white Americans as a single group. Any study that only compares by race and ethnicity divorced from socio-economic class is probably looking at the wrong factors.
And I doubt many poor or low income families of any color are treating themselves to BBQ, which is pretty pricey in today's world, on anything close to a regular basis. They can't afford it.
It didn't help when about 20 years ago, doctors and dieticians started pushing a carb-based diet, light on protein and fats. At that time, they made no distinction between healthy and unhealthy fats. They just said cut back on protein and cut out all fat. Nor, initially did they differentiate between simple and complex carbs. A carb- based diet almost works if one is an althlete, or sweats for a living (doesn't wear a suit to work). However, very few people in modern America head straight for the shower when they get home, as our fathers and grandfathers did.
And Republicans wouldn't be having so many heart attacks if they weren't sitting on their butts all day watching Sean Hannity. I only say that because I care.
All right! A Republican who uses real facts instead of making stuff up!
Now, if only Ms. Marble had said something like, "I would like to discuss how certain diseases disproportionately affect African Americans, and offer _____policy or ______legislative remedy to address this."
Instead, she left her audience with a few silly and racially stereotypical ideas: 1, the idea that AAs are to blame for choosing their crappy diets, 2) all AAs like fried chicken and bbq, 3) thinner Mexicans in Mexico, where 1/2 the population lives under subsistence poverty , is not due to poverty but due to "eating more vegetables", and 4)that a proper legislative response to improve diets and health of poor people in general would be to….oh, well, she never got to that.
If she had been, as you say, trying to start a real dialogue, as a professional legislator, she should have watched how the pros do it. They start with statistics (as you did), or anecdotes or constituent testimony, then move from that to actual policy arguments. The hearing was about diabetes and health, and it would have been appropriate – but that's not what she did.
Marble already admitted she could have phrased it better. This is about her intent. She had no intent to make a racist stereotype. Doesn't her meaning matter more than your interpretation? Or are you just playing gotcha politics?
Don't you have better things to do, like fabricating more "quotes" from Sen. Morse?
I'm sorry but with each additional interview Marble keeps coming across as an idiot. Now maybe she's just very inarticulate, but either way your team needs to speak to the stupidity flowing non-stop out of her mouth.
Sure, we can forgive.If she just apologized, and stopped defending herself, maybe distanced herself from all of you asses who want to demonize Ms. Fields for speaking up, that would go a long way.
I'm confused as to what we are supposed to assume her meaning to be other than the meaning of the words she keeps saying. I'm pretty sure I understand them. Are we supposed to rely on mental telepathy or something instead of her words? And what does intent have to do with it? I bet she doesn't intend to be an idiot either and yet….
Regarding your avatar image there. I've along time friend, largish gentleman of Polish extraction ex-Ranger who would- even in that situation- take your handgun from you and deposit it in that perpetually shady orifice where your head resides.Her meaning is in the words she said regardless of her intent.It's almost worse to say those things unintentionally or at least it's more revealing ofher actual thoughts and feelings on the matter. You can dance and spin any which way you want,but Sen.Marble is 1.an idiot and 2. a racist.
If we ever have another GOP Pres Vicki may well be a Cabinet member. Woo Hoo!
Maybe we should get a prominent Democrat to promote healty diets…I don't know…maybe starting with educating kids…..making a big deal about eating right and exercise…..I think Vicki should offer to start such a program…..
WAIT A MINUTE….maybe we could persuade the First Lady to become involved….ya, that's it.
Will the Marble/Obama program be just for African Americans and Hispanics? We have more obese white folks and diabetic white kids than ever before too, so ….
Maybe we have this all wrong. Maybe FLOTUS and Marble are in cahoots and this is their cynical way of getting their message of health and diet into the news.
Brilliant guerrilla marketing.
Please, Pols. It is not necessary to run a photo with every Nice Vicky story. Please. Oh, please, oh, please, oh, please.
Obviously Marble blew it, and admitted it. Fields could have taken the high road and instead of being offended said "Thanks for the compliment." But how is it she gets off scott free for making a mountain out of a mole hill? Politics generally requires a bit thicker skin, doesn't it?
She admitted it? Sounds like she's still blaming others.
Another troll heard from.
I wish I could get angry at the idea that Fields should have thanked Marble for the "compliment", but Republican racism has gotten so blatant, so obvious, and so prevalent, that it just makes me weary.
As for EC's being a troll..nah…..just another Republican who honestly believes that a racist statement is much less wrong than one of the targets of that racism speaking up about it.
In the minds of Marble's defenders, Fields' crime was forgetting her place.
Not a republican. Just examining other possibilities. I didn't see Marble's comments as racist, just inappropriate. I didn't say Fields SHOULD have, I said could have. Not issuing orders here. Just thinking is all and looking for feedback (which is appreciated, thank you) How does that make me a troll? Maybe I am familing in my understanding of the definition of racism.