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September 30, 2013 12:42 PM UTC

As Federal Shutdown Nears, Fingers Pointing at Republicans

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  • by: Colorado Pols

UPDATE: New ABC/Washington Post poll shows similarly bad polling numbers for Republicans on the eve of a shutdown:

Republicans’ weaker standing stems from lower marks from political independents but also fellow Republicans.

Only about a third of independents approve of Obama’s work on the budget (34 percent), but an even smaller 21 percent support congressional Republicans (congressional Democrats fall in the middle at 27 percent).

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No real surprise here, as CNN reports:

The Democratic-led Senate on Monday afternoon rejected a proposal by the Republican-led House to delay Obamacare for a year and repeal a tax on medical devices, increasing the chances no deal to avert a shutdown would be reached.

House Speaker John Boehner now must decide how to respond with the Senate again rejecting attempts to halt Obamacare. He could put a "clean" spending provision to a vote…

As we've mentioned previously in this space, polling has been clear for weeks that Americans will blame Republicans in the event of a government shutdown:

A new CNN/ORC poll shows that Americans are not happy about the prospect of a shutdown, which is happening because Congress has been unable to pass a budget for the new fiscal year that begins Tuesday.

According to the poll, 68% of Americans think shutting down the government for even a few days is a bad idea, while 27% think it's a good idea.

And it appears most Americans would blame congressional Republicans for a shutdown: Sixty-nine percent said they agreed with the statement that the party's elected officials were acting like "spoiled children." [Pols emphasis] Democrats, however, weren't far behind: Fifty-eight percent of respondents said they too were acting like spoiled kids.

There is still time for House Republicans to do something besides just try to please their Tea Party masters. It will be interesting to see if House Speaker John Boehner can appeal to reason before a shutdown is implemented, or if he has just given up and, in effect, ceded leadership to Sen. Ted Cruz.

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26 thoughts on “As Federal Shutdown Nears, Fingers Pointing at Republicans

  1. Meanwhile the Republicans are very aggressively framing this as refusal by the Dems and the administration to negotiate a compromise. 

    The Dems need to unite behind the message that the compromise has already taken place, during the lengthy legislative process that resulted in the ACA passing and being signed by the President, thereby becoming law, in the first place. Dems have already given up much of what they wanted in the ACA . The end result of all of that compromise is now the law.  

    What the GOP is proposing isn't compromise. What they are proposing is to block the implementation of law they couldn't prevent from being passed by employing blackmail. They are saying we don't care that this law is the result of the legitimate legislative process.  Get rid of it or else.  

    Dems have to make that clear. And isn't it ironic to suddenly hear the no compromise, no way, compromise is surrender crowd now claiming to be the gracious champions of compromise in the face of those rigid Dems? The Dems who gave them 90% of what they demanded in the first place?  To pass what are largely the past recommendations of rightie think tanks?

    Yeah, right.

    1. Ah, but this poll says Democrats aren't much better off than Republicans in the eyes of the public. Why is the President willing to negotiate with Iran but not his fellow Americans across the aisle? Don't count on the American people to stay with the President. Approval for Obamacare continues to drop.

      1. The ACA has already been negotiated, passed and signed.  This isn't about negotiation. This is about an extremist minority threatening to blow the government up if they don't get what they want and couldn't get through the legitimate legislative process. Iran isn't threatening to take any action against the US if we don't talk to them. 

        Been missing a while. You and all the trolls. Been waiting for the bosses to get that talking point lie with a dash of attack on Obama's Americanism figured out? 

        1. It seems to me the lack of pinko trollitry the last few days is telling.

          During the firearms legislation, then the recall period, we saw a large bump in red posters. Some national people, a lot of local yokels. As the recall neared, people that write conservative blogs started popping up. When Sens'. Morse and Giron lost, the pinko presence reached a peak. End zone dances, taunts, lots of predictions of dire times for Liberals, and a lot of standard teabag hubris. Right or wrong, these people believed thier side was right, and a victory, albeit pyrrhic, had finally been won. It's been a long time since reds have done well here, and the zealots savored the moment.

          This is a different feel. n3b's it for righty posters. Nobody's coming forth to trumpet "conservative principles", "brave republicans", or even comparisons to the gallant Alonso Quijano. Seriously, all but the arch anti-government anarchist wing of the conservative world most likely know thier party has imploded, and the inmates are now running the asylum.

          Any poll coming even remotely close when assigning blame to anyone other than republicans needs to be researched. 

          Actually, in n3b's case, I suspect he catches a little limbaugh, maybe a little beck, sees a smidgen of fox, and runs to the keyboard with it.

           

          1. n3 recently showed up. Guess he was waiting for the attack points. They've decided on … Rs keep passing way to keep government going and Dems refuse to re-neg….oops…I mean negotiate.

            Polls aren't showing that view is widely shared. Maybe people have noticed that this is a law that has been passed and signed already and that the Rs have been unsuccessful in repealing it in over 40 attempts so now their approach is pretty much…  You've got until midnight to give us what we want or we blow up the government.

        2. Effective at 12:01am, President Obama should declare the Republican Party a terrorist group and shut them out.

          Terrorists loves to play stupid games like this one.

           

           

      2. Because the nutsacks in Iran are much, much more sane, logical, trustworthy, and likely to negotiate in good faith than any of the current crop of nutsacks "across the aisle" . . . ???

      3. This isn't a race. There is no second place. The American Public will place the blame for a shutdown on one party, and it is clearly going to be the Republicans.

        1. I disagree.  Obviously, there will be a split opinion; something like 35% GOP, 20% DEM, 30% Both parties, and 15% What's for dinner?

          The Dems have to keep their messaging simple: A majority of Congress does not support a shutdown, but John Boehner would not let the House vote on a clean CR that would avert a shutdown.  John Boehner does not believe in majority rule and so we are facing the consequences.

          1. Just saw a poll on NBC news. something like 43% blame Republicans, maybe 32% the President and the rest distributed in various other clueless or plague on both your houses categories. But the GOP is really blitzing the message that they've passed a bill to keep the government going and the Dems won't compromise. 

            No news people are pointing out that this is a law that was debated and forged via compromise years ago and the Republicans are simply trying to block it because they don't like it and failed to repeal it forty some times. 

            Dems need to make that clear. Man on the street interviews showing lots of "they're all to blame"  because they either don't understand anything about it or think that, at this stage, compromising on already passed law is somehow what the winners in that old legislative battle are supposed to do under threat. I still think most will blame the Tea Party loons in the GOP.

            1. Debbie-Wasserman Schultz just did a nice job  of explaining the situation on the Piers Morgan show.

              She was followed by some shrill young lady who wouldn't let Piers talk. Amy (didn't catch the last name)  was trying to sell the message that Americans should hold Harry Reid responsible because he sat on House bill for…gasp… 38 hrs.

              And, the next talking point was from Ben Ferguson w

               "now that the government has shut down,.we have to start over with a clean slate…

              get it ?

        2. These poll stats from a Think Progress Progress Report e-mail I received.

          • Just 7 percent of Americans back the GOP’s plan to delay and defund Obamacare. And less than one-third of Americans (26 percent) support the GOP’s ultimate and oft-stated goal of completely repealing Obamacare.
          • A whopping 68 percent of Americans want the law to move forward as is or with improvements.
          • More than two-thirds of Americans (68 percent) agree that shutting down the government for even a few days is “a bad thing for the country.”
          • Six in ten Americans also agree that it is more important for Congress to avoid shutting down the government than preventing Obamacare from moving forward.
          • An overwhelming 80 percent of Americans agree that threatening a government shutdown is not an acceptable way to negotiate.
          • Just 19 percent of Americans believe that it’s worth shutting down the government in order to defund Obamacare. That means that about half of the small minority of Americans who actually favor defunding Obamacare still oppose shutting down the government in order to do so.
          • More than two-thirds of Americans (69 percent) say Republicans in Congress “have acted mostly like spoiled children during the recent debate over the federal budget.”
          • Another poll found that just 26 percent of Americans approve of how Republicans in Congress have handled negotiations over the federal budget

          This would tend to support your take ColPols.

           

           

      4. I think it says something that Iran is willing to step up to the negotiating table and offers real progress toward resolving differences and working toward peace, while extremist Republicans are willing to shut down the US government in order to get their way.

  2. Might as well say this again:

    This is simple: A clean CR would pass the House just as it has passed the Senate, averting a shutdown.  Boehner is refusing to allow a vote on a clean CR.  Therefore, Boehner is responsible for the imminent government shutdown.

    Now, do you hear anything about Obamacare, Benghazi or abortion in that statement?  No.  Today's issue is whether there will be a government shutdown and who is responsible.  John Boehner is responsible.  Full stop.

    1. And do not forget — this CR is for 60  measley days.  So obviously, if the anarchists in the Tea Party get their foot in the door on this one, then they'll think they just won the Presidency and a majority in the Senate!

      No stopping their terrorist threats about the debt ceiling, and then a replay in 2 months on the budget.

      They need to be slapped down, and HARD!

  3. What about Mr. Coffman?

    Has he taken a position on voting for/against this shutdown?  If he votes against I would really love to see AR go into full smackdown mode.  But I am guessing that like the chickenhawk he is that he is covering his ass in an undisclosed location.

      1. He will. He always does follow orders when push comes to shove. Once in a blue moon he'll cast a go against the flow vote,  maybe if it has something to do with vets, but never when it would actually make a difference to his leaders.

         I call and e-mail just so he isn't only heating from the ditto heads but I know he couldn't care less what anyone from the other party thinks. Despite his new bluer district he still doesn't have the hang of  making even the most modest show of bi-partisanship.

      1. My first CD6 Dem Rep. May it really happen. Now l suppose dwyer will be giving me grief over the phrasing and demanding to know what I'm going to do to make it happen, clueless, passive moron that I am . So I may as well say…Shut up, dwyer…preemptively

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