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June 27, 2014 06:13 AM UTC

Friday Open Thread

  • 67 Comments
  • by: Colorado Pols

"There was never an angry man that thought his anger unjust."

–Saint Francis de Sales

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67 thoughts on “Friday Open Thread

  1. Remember all the "Rule of Law!" Republicans? How they wail and moan about "illegals" just need to follow the law, then we'll let them in. 

    Of course, as we all know, it's Pure B.S

    On June 15, without the permission of administration officials or the Virginia State Police, House Speaker William J. Howell (R) enlisted the Capitol Police and clerks from the office of the House of Delegates to break into Gov. Terry McAuliffe’s (D) secure office suite to deliver the state budget when the governor was not around.

    The break-in was part of an ongoing effort by Virginia Republicans to block McAuliffe’s promise to expand Medicaid in the state.

    The state budget, which has served as the center point of the political battle, contained several contentious provisions barring McAuliffe from expanding the health care program.

    They break whichever laws are inconveneint to them, then threaten the President with impeachment for using his Constitutionally granted authorities. 

    And both sides don't do it!*

    * – R's may actually be right on some of this exec priv stuff, but it took the first Black Man in the White House to raise their ire enough to actually notice.

    1. Obama smacks Boehner down:

      Obama said he was forced to take action because Congress refused to do its job.

      "What I've told Speaker Boehner directly is, if you're really concerned about me taking too many executive actions, why don't you try getting something done through Congress?" Obama said on ABC.

      "The majority of American people want to see immigration reform done. We had a bipartisan bill through the Senate. And you're going to squawk if I try to fix some parts of it administratively that are within my authority, while you are not doing anything?"

      But Orange Man and Doug Lamborn and Cory Gardner all making $170,000+ for doing the Tea Party's bidding.

      1. yeah, he wants to kill the Entrepeneurial spirit and shut down the Job Creators, while strangling the hidden hand of the Free Market!!!!!!!!!!1111!!1

        1. Yep. Making tons of money in the free market is great only if you're a Republican. Though I will say HRC's comments abou having entered and left the WH dead broke were as tone deaf as Mitten's comments about the 47%.

          No matter how the debt and asset ledger works out, being dead broke with a couple of very high dollar residences to live in, the ability to jet set all over the world, vacation wherever you like and buy or be given whatever you need and most of what you want is not the kind of dead broke your typical dead broke person experiences.

          HRC  has been living in privileged isolation for most of her adult life and, unlike Bill, was born into an affluent (though certainly not Romney wealthy) family in the first place. Nothing wrong with that but never having had to worry about making ends meet to keep the lights on while wishing so hard to be seen as just like average struggling folks does cause her to occasionally say something really clueless.

          1. Agreed, Hillary should have couched their financial straits in slightly different terms:  e.g. "Legal fees from the GOP's pursuit of my husband drove us into insolvency.  However, we are of course fortunate to have the education, means and opportunity to earn significant sums of money, unlike millions of Americans that are trapped in a cycle of debt, joblessness and desperation due to Congress'es budgets that cut spending on basic safety net programs such as food stamps, unemployment insurance, children's nutrition, day care and educational support, all the while promoting policies to put more taxpayer dollars in the hands of the 1%."

          2. Hillary's mother had a extraordinarly difficult life, of which Hillary was very much aware.  I don't think she lived in "isolated privilege" growing up.

            1. I'm not talking about life's sorrows from which no one, not even the wealthiest, are immune.  Look at the Kennedy family.  I'm speaking of isolation from economic want.  She was born into a well off professional family and raised in a very fashionable, upscale Chicago suburb. Sorry but that is a privileged background, unlike the way most Americans live. My brother went to High School with her so I know exactly where she comes from. We lived in a decidedly less tony part of the district. They did not socialize.

              She went to an elite university and then spent most of her adult life in the political world as the wife of a Governor, a President and as a Senator and Cabinet Officer herself, with all the perks those positions entail, and later with cushy book deals, lucrative lectures, a husband also enriching himself via those opportunities and others and with secret service protection for decades now. 

              I'm pretty sure she doesn't hit the supermarket or the hardware store herself and would be hard pressed to remember the last time she ever did. Sorry but all that does make her isolated from the economic cares of the struggling middle class. 

              Had she ever had to worry about getting the power shut off or how to pay the fees for her child to participate in a school sport or something I'm sure she wouldn't have made the tone deaf comment about leaving the White House (and moving into a home more than 99% of Americans could never afford) "dead broke". 

              I don't say this as an HRC hater.  I'm just not going to pretend she hasn't or can't do any wrong. See her vote to go to war in Iraq, for instance. 

              She really did put her foot in it clearly because she really doesn't have a connection with what "dead broke" means to average people. I don't apologize for saying so.

                1. Your point? Hillary may have heard the stories of how her mom grew up in hard times but she personally never wanted for anything. Ever. Her family wasn't the Rockefellers but were very comfortably ensconced in the upper portion of the upper middle class when Hillary was growing up, very much better off than average.  

                  In politics as First Lady of a state and and then a country she didn't need great wealth to have all her needs and wants taken care of. After that they became quite wealthy pretty quickly. I'm guessing that's why she had no idea how absurd it sounded to people who, when they they are broke, don't live in great places and jet all over the world when she claimed to have left her gig as First F-ing Lady a pauper.  Don't know why this bothers you so. Post all the links you like. 

    1. In all fairness, she bvrought this one on herself.  Tell us how you're going to help take care of the folks who capitalism has failed.  You need not be one of them.

  2. Surprised no coverage here on this story from the Grand Junction Sentinel:

    King cooked timecard, violated policies, says boss

    State Senator and Republican nominee for Mesa County Sheriff Steve King falsified at least one timecard while committing five code-of-conduct violations as determined in a Sheriff’s Office internal affairs investigation ongoing since late May, according to records obtained by The Daily Sentinel.

    The episode caused King’s firing June 6 — some 18 days before Tuesday’s Mesa County primary election.

    With voters casting final ballots in the race for sheriff, Mesa County Sheriff Rebecca Spiess on Tuesday released King’s internal affairs file to The Daily Sentinel pursuant to a Colorado Open Records Act request that was filed by the newspaper on Monday.

    The King internal affairs investigation started in late May and closed this past Friday, she said.

    “The public interest is served by this disclosure,” Spiess said Tuesday, while anticipating criticism about the timing.

    “If there had been any other way (to disclose) when this first came to our attention in May, we would have done it,” said Spiess, who assumed office with the June 13 departure of Sheriff Stan Hilkey. “But we needed to follow the process we always follow.”

    She said of Tuesday’s release, “We feel solidly we can do this and it’s the right thing to do.”

    Spiess, among others in senior positions at the Sheriff’s Office, donated money to King’s campaign for sheriff over recent months, according to state records. Spiess rejects suggestions King’s woes were suppressed toward protecting a candidate perceived as “our guy.”

    “If we had any interest in trying to delay activity surrounding notification to the community, we wouldn’t have investigated it,” Spiess said. “That’s not who we are.”

          1. Oh, no, there are a few good reporters on The Sentinel's staff, definitely (and more than a few really bad ones).  It's the leadership I have a problem with. 

              1. Sure they are, now that everyone can see how bad it is. I was speaking more in terms of their allegiance to the Mesa County GOP and the Chamber of Commerce.

          1. Long story.  To oversimplify, Steve King got fired from his patronage job at the Sheriff's office for insubordination and allegedly falsifying his time card.  The irony is that he's running for Sheriff and won the primary against a teabagger.  The incident prompted a "Brady Letter" from the DA.  He's now ruined politically and as a law enforcement officer.

              1. No, July 3 is the day the primary is certified.  If King steps down before then, King is not the nominee and the bagger wins by default.  King really hasn't "won" the primary until canvass is complete and the election is certified.  I'd be much happier if King is certified, steps down, the nomination is declared vacant, and a party vacancy committee appoints a successor.  His opponent is a bit of a loon IMHO.  Ok, maybe more than a bit.

                1. The last thing we need in this valley is a Cliven Bundy/Joe Arpaio wannabe as Sheriff. 

                  It was bad enough when Rick Wagner was in his patronage position at the MCSO, pretending he was Mel Gibson in Lethal Weapon

                  1. In an ideal world, King would step down after July 3, The Repubs let the nomination go vacant, then throw their support behind Pat Arotin, a senior S.O. deputy who is petitioning on as an unaffiliated.  But the Mesa County Republicans don't work that way.  We'll get someone equally as slimy as King.

                    1. Unaffiliated candidates won't win in Mesa County without significant money — minimum $60,000 for media, phone banks, signs, etc. Write-in candidates are a lost cause. I think it's more likely that Stevie's well-honed arrogance keeps him in the race. He'll win. Six months later, a recall can start.

                      In an ideal world, Stevie would step down after July 3 and the GOP vacancy committee does whatever it takes, including groveling, to persuade Sheriff Spiess to run. She could groom a successor and still retire, which I understand she would like to do relatively soon.

                       

                    2. Replying to Gertie; the thread is at maximum depth.  Speiss would be great and she's an R, but she could write her ticket anywhere else if she wants.  They were trying to push her to run a while ago, but she got cold feet when the kingmakers (pardon the pun) chose Hollywood.

                       

                    3. This is all so disappointing. I worked with Steve King, long ago.  I liked him. Hardcore Lib that I am, I voted for him, because I knew him then to be an honest guy. I don't know if the allegations are true, but it sure as hell looks bad. 

                      No matter what, there's blood in the water now, and he's done for. Maybe he deserves it; it's not for me to say.  But it's sad to see. 

                    4. Replying to Ralphie: Spiess wants to retire fairly soon; her hubby is already retired. That's why I mentioned groveling. But King needs a job. He's in the midst of a divorce and there will be child support to pay. Perhaps the O&G types could come through with employment, Stevie quits the race and perhaps the GOP vacancy committee would exercise some sense. It ain't the way to bet, though.

    1. I thought about writing a comment or two but then explaining Steve King's history, the Republican dominated governance of "Messy" County would take a diary or two and I doubt CPols readers are that interested.

  3. Following the Supreme Court's decision in McCullen v. Coakley that knocked out a Massachusetts law providing  35 ft buffer zones around abortion clinics, SCOTUSblog looks at the implications for Colorado's buffer law that was previously ruled constitutional in Hill v. Colorado

    Since Colorado's law maintains an 8 ft buffer around the individuals entering a clinic rather than a fixed area surrounding the building itself, it may be narrow enough to pass constitutional muster but there is enough question that you can bet that there will be lawsuits gearing up even now.

      1. Settled… kinda. The Supreme Court ruling in McCullen addressed buffer zones pretty widely as unconstitutional, but didn't mention Hill. It's hard to tell whether their intention was to overturn their previous ruling, leave Hill intact, or open the up the issue. 

        Since the issue suddenly got fuzzy and Colorado's buffer law is at least <i>perceived</i> to be on shaky ground, I wouldn't be surprised to see a rash of intentional violations at clinic protests in order to provide fodder for lawsuits.

        1. Looking at the history of the case, I doubt it was their intention to overturn Hill.

          Ginsberg and Breyer were on the majority in Hill – and voted against the Massachusetts buffer zone in yesterday's decision; Sotomayor and Kagan would likely go along with those two. During oral argument one of the big criticisms of the MA law was its indiscriminate, large buffer zone. I think either Roberts or Kennedy would go along and maintain the majority decision reached in Hill.

            1. That seems unlikely to me, at least from the McCullen side – I suspect the majority would have been happy with 6-3 or even 5-4 on that ruling.

              More likely if there was horse trading it was on the Hobby Lobby side, with token support for McCullen as the carrot.

              It just doesn't seem strong enough – more like pundits talking.

        1. You mean Scott Vs Konola?  Or do you mean the Scott drops out and a vacancy committee appoints king to replace him for his old seat?  If it's the former, naah (as much as I like Claudette).

    1. I kind of figured Slobby Lobby (sic) would be the blockbuster, after the Justices have left town, decision. I think last year's was Windsor v U.S. 

  4. It's candidates like this that are at fault for the declining ability of Americans to distinguish between satire and Tea Party politics:

    Timothy Ray Murray believes Rep. Frank Lucas (R-Okla.), his opponent in the congressional Republican primary, was executed three years ago and is being represented by a look-alike. Because he believes Lucas is really dead, Murray said he will challenge the results of Tuesday's Republican primary, in which Murray received 5.2 percent of the vote. Lucas won the primary with 82.8 percent of the vote.

    1. It gets even weirder; Murray thinks that his opponent was executed in Ukraine!

      I'd could let it go if it was intended as a joke, however bad it may be, but Murray seems to be serious. How do nuts like this ever get to run for office? 

    1. Thanks for the link, Ralphie. Not that I thought Phoenix was spinning a yarn, but you gotta read this to believe it. and I though we grew some whacknuts! Black helicopters and U.N. conspiricies can't hold a candle to this

      1. What the heck. Here's another link: 

        WASHINGTON — Political opponents accuse each other of lying all the time, but one Oklahoma congressional candidate took his accusation to a new level this week when he claimed his opponent was actually dead and being represented by a body double.

        KFOR in Oklahoma reports that Timothy Ray Murray believes Rep. Frank Lucas (R-Okla.), his opponent in the congressional Republican primary, was executed three years ago and is being represented by a look-alike. Because he believes Lucas is really dead, Murray said he will challenge the results of Tuesday's Republican primary, in which Murrayreceived 5.2 percent of the vote. Lucas won the primary with 82.8 percent of the vote.

        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/27/frank-lucas_n_5537217.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

    2. Dang. I should have known it was too late in the day to be the first to post this one! Modster's always complaining about us finding these things to make Rs look bad but honestly. What are we supposed to do when so much of it falls right in our laps? And how much means it's not just a handful of nuts but a trend?

    1. It  doesn't seem like that was something to kill oneself over. Wouldn't be surprised if something more comes out.

      Dirty tricks are one thing and a contemporary Republican specialty but having election stunts lead to suicide is really tragic. And this right after the story of Rs breaking in to secretly deliver time sensitive material to the D Virginia Governor in hopes of causing the time to expire before the Gov knew he had it and could deal with it.  Bet nobody's going to kill themselves over that one going south but maybe some priorities, not to mention ethics, among rightie political ops and pols need to be rethought

      And no… Dems don't do this kind of thing anywhere close to just as much. 

  5. Finally, a member of the 0.01% (self-made, but lucky sperm club member too) that gets it:

    The most ironic thing about rising inequality is how completely unnecessary and self-defeating it is. If we do something about it, if we adjust our policies in the way that, say, Franklin D. Roosevelt did during the Great Depression—so that we help the 99 percent and preempt the revolutionaries and crazies, the ones with the pitchforks—that will be the best thing possible for us rich folks, too. It’s not just that we’ll escape with our lives; it’s that we’ll most certainly get even richer.

    Nick Hanauer is a Seattle-based entrepreneur. 

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/06/the-pitchforks-are-coming-for-us-plutocrats-108014.html#ixzz35sghk7Gc

  6. The next time an elected official in Colorado states they hate pot but love beer and want to protect the children, please remind them their state is topping the list of alcohol related deaths. Hypocrisy – it's an ugly and unbecoming trait.

    "Researchers estimate that excessive drinking kills an average of 88,000 people in the U.S. each year, and shortened the lives of those who died by an average of 30 years. "

     

    1. Another thing. Recent sting operations have found no pot shop selling to minors. Not a one. Hardly ever the case when sting operations are mounted to catch liquor stores selling to minors.

      1. I saw that, too, B.C. I was pleased to see that the cannabis stores are excruciatingly careful about who they sell to. Kids getting their hands on the stuff was one of the big, scary things that was going to happen when the shops opened, according to the prohibitionists.Now if only parents were as consciemtious about their liquor cabinets.

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