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July 25, 2014 09:09 AM UTC
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Thanks for this post, Zap. Colorado has historically been a playground for O&G to do as they please. It was only during the tenure of Bill Ritter that the O&G industry didn't own the Governors' floor.
There are so many ways we could better use the water that is being trashed and injected into the ground as toxic waste.
Wow, fracking fried out the West? Are you sure Mother Nature had nothing to do with that?
Regardless, does getting energy via technology that uses up huge quantities of irreplaceable water when we have other alternatives make long term sense? I mean considering we have no alternatives to water for, you know, survival of life on earth? That's actually my main obejection to continuing down the dead end road of depending on finite resources and techniques of extraction, such as fracking, that waste our most precious resources. I don't care if the fluid tastes like champaign and earthquakes are entirely unconnected.
moddy isn't entirely wrong. West has huge underground reservoirs of brackish water useful fou fracking — and little else. The jihad against fracking is irrational and hurts Democrats with moderate voters,
jihad… that's cute. Let's see… one side is causing damage to the environment with chemicals they claim are safe, but refuse to identify… and the people who don't like it are what…terrorists?
you're not a terrorist, curmuddy, but do apprach this issue with unthinking religious fervor. never a good plan.
Fair enough. My emotions on this do tend to run high. But, you see, I live out here. I find it difficult to be aloof, uncaring, and oh so above it all when I see what fracking has done, and will do; not to mention the way the workers are ground up, spat out, and abandoned as soon as the companies feel there's a penny more to be made elsewhere.
By the way…how's your plan working out?
Did everyone see the massive Halliburton screw up, fire, spill in Ohio, killed 75000 fish and Halliburton waited days to even tell regulators what the chemicals were. How's that for an irrational jihad?
I've been saying this for years, ct. Every 26 million years or so, Mother Earth says "I'm gonna take a nap now. Y'all goona have to get out of my bedroom." And she freezes over.
Of course industry frack-hacks view opponents as terrorists. Jared Polis was just called a "terrorist" less than a week ago.
Well, Voyageur, Udall and Hick aren't on any jihad against fracking. Maybe standing against other Dems, who are almost all going to vote for them anyway, on this issue helps them with moderates. Can't be accused of falling in line with the most liberal wing and all that. Maybe they ought to be sending some of the anti-frackers thank you notes.
Fracking is only a small part of it, Mod.
We also have human-caused climate change, the diversion of water from the basin for human uses (agricultural, direct human use, and vanity items like green grass in a desert), the overestimation of water availability used in the Colorado River compact, and yes, natural weather cycles.
Humans are behind the vast majority of the change in the Colorado River basin.
P Rising is right. The aquifer raids are by Californians who won't conserve, and their alleged leaders who won't put in public policies to force them too.
The problem is too many folks, the world over. The earth will be fine. Whether the humans who live on it surive is another question.
And what damage we do on the way out.
Anyone who has not swallowed the fracking fluid, or who is not lucky enough to live where this activity is not happening and can afford to believe old has beens like the Roy and BillO show, nderstands that oil and gas devlopment is a highly industrial, dangerous, and toxic activity. Non of this is in dispute, although it is regularly disputed by those paid to lie and their willfully ignorant transmitters. Citizens and local communites have a right, responsibility, to have ral and meaningful inut into how, where and when this highly impactful industrial and polluting activity occurs. We are going to get it. If milquetoast Dem pols are collateral damage in citizens standing up for themselves, so be it.
It is typical of your smartass ways to create a straw man to make your argument. You insinuate that someone said hydraulic fracturing is solely responsible for the growing scarcity of fresh, clean, water. Of course, no one said that.
That would not matter to a mendacious O&G toady, such as yourself. There are many factors in the water shortage that is rapidly becoming a crisis, including the poisoning of millions of gallons of water every day by the Oily Boys. Just because there are other contributing factors, does not obviate the impact of fracking on our water supply.
I, for one, am unaware of the "huge underground reservoirs of brackish water" mentioned below by Voyageur. To my knowledge, only fresh water is suitable for drilling and fracking. I would be happy to be educated about the practice of using brackish water for fracking. If true, it is a step in the right direction.
USGS maps have long documented brackish water reserves, And my oil and gas friends say that it can be used. ofcourse, much still depends on location.
V'ger my old friend, I think the main point is that fresh water is a scarce commodity — wind and sunshine aren't.
Fracking is a short-term solution that will rapidly burn out in a few years (see CT's comments indicating the financial struggles due to the drilling treadmill they are on to keep the flow of O&G going as the wells give out after just a couple of years).
In the competition for scarce resources, I'd favor other more beneficial uses (agricultural, wine, and your favorite — beer 😉 than adding to pollution via fracking that can't even recycle the billions of gallons they need.
How do those brackish reserves support the overall water table?
"brackish reserves" sounds like a Frank Luntz talking point
It's from that big stash of the world's unecessary water.
Sure, oil and gas companies should prioritize using non-potable, and non-usable (irrigation grade) water… should. Should. To be clear: should doesn't mean much. Some–like myself–would say that oil and gas companies should NOT be injecting industrial oil and gas waste into deep aquifers either…but that hasn't stopped them. Polluting some, sucking up others–to frack them out of the hydrologcal cycle or turn them into waste (that needs injected or evaporated and landfilled)…
Yeah, ct…but, just look at the upside…um…wait…never mind….
Oil And Gas Companies Look To Deep Aquifers For Water
They really don't care about survival of even their own progeny, do they? Just goes to show how completely hypocritical their supposed devotion to every fertilized egg really is. Future fertilized eggs are welcome to grow up and good luck finding water.
Maybe Fracking fluid has electrolytes?
Apologies for the typos – if you fix 'em the diary goes off the promo list somehow.
Thanks for understanding the point, BC, Duke, Phoenix, et al……..it is the totality of actions we have been taking over time that has caused this depletion and will continue to affect the viability of the Colorado River and the millions of people who rely on it both within and without its basin.
It appears dumbass Republicans who hate the environment will never be convinced by any evidence that we need to change our ways.
I certainly hope the guv does….