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June 09, 2008 10:46 PM UTC

Colorado In Play

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  • by: Colorado Pols

Cogent stuff in today’s Grand Junction Sentinel:

The recent Democratic surge in Colorado and other Western states has left presidential candidates John McCain and Barack Obama wondering whether the region will swing their way come November.

Colorado and several of its neighbors are part of what could be a fundamental realignment of the formerly reliably Republican Rocky Mountain West.

With Democrats ascendant in states across the region – from Montana to Arizona – Obama’s campaign team already has made painting the West blue part of his campaign strategy.

“We want to send a message now that we are going to go after them, and I expect to win them,” Obama told a New Mexico crowd on Memorial Day.

McCain, too, has made the West a priority, citing his experience on western issues during a recent Associated Press interview: “I believe as a Western senator I understand the issues, the challenges of the future for these … states, whether it be land, water, Native American issues, preservation, environmental issues.”

Colorado, Nevada and New Mexico seem the most likely candidates to realign this year…

Of course, it won’t be a cakewalk.

Obama’s enthusiasm, particularly in Colorado, could be blunted by several factors, including a ballot measure concerning the polarizing issue of abortion. Expect Amendment 48, which would define life as starting at conception, to bring out conservatives in droves, possibly spoiling the electorate’s recent Democratic tendencies.

Also, a scandal on either side of Colorado’s open Senate race between Republican Bob Schaffer and Democrat Mark Udall could sully the party’s brand. The same could happen in state or federal races in Nevada and New Mexico…

…McCain could handicap the western Democratic surge with his place as a senator from Arizona.

We agree that “bringing out conservatives in droves” is the whole cynical intent of Amendment 48, though we wonder if the old wedge-initiative trick is still the viable firewall it used to be (not to mention that Colorado is a pro-CHOICE state, so those voters coming to the polls may be largely Democrats). And in terms of one or the other “party’s brand” being sullied by a scandal in the Udall/Schaffer race, well, events may have already caught up with the analysis.

To the final point: does McCain offer regional appeal sufficient to sway undecided Colorado voters? That’s an interesting question for which we’ve heard conflicting answers.

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26 thoughts on “Colorado In Play

    1.    A lot of “Ritter Republicans” will turn out to vote, take one look at the Egg as Person Amendment, be reminded as to what’s happened to their party, and vote against A-48 and for Obama and Udall rather than enable the Wing Nuts.

      1. The same might be said of Calfornia’s same-sex marriage ruling bringing more R’s to the polls around the nation as well. Sort of tough to measure these things.

        Also, ballot initiatives tend to bring people to the polls for one side or the other, not suddenly change their minds when they get there.

        1. The wingnuts have been well trained to show up at the polls. 48 won’t make a difference for them. The RINOs & disaffected republicans are on the fence, not necessarily wanting to go dem, wanting their party back, not sure where the party stands now. Wadhams et. al. are trying to convince the voters that republicans are back in the middle, thus Schaffer’s “no position” on 48. Having 48 on the ballot will remind those that thought maybe the party was moving to the middle that it is not. 48 also makes it difficult for R candidates to not take a stand on this issue. A time tested tactic for the wingnuts.  

          1.    Is he seriously going to maintain that position through Nov?  

              Won’t the Steve Curtis and Pat Miller types accuse Schaffer of turning squishy RINO on them and betraying the Cause?

            1. I think it’s impossible to maintain “no comment” for an R right now. The “time tested tactic” is to put the issue (48) in black and white and say (the Curtis/Millers of the party) “you’re with us our against us”.

              I don’t know. If you were Schaffer would you rather have half the republicans voting for you or the other half? If you can figure that out give Schaffer a call.

              Wish I could tell you what’s going to happen. A lot of republicans do too.

              I always thought that Ds had a tougher time because you have so many splinter groups. I now believe it is more difficult to have fewer warring factions.

              In summary: I think Schaffer is toast.

              1. To the press and state at large, he can either refuse to comment or sidestep the question by saying it’s a state concern, up to the voters of Colorado, while he’s running for federal office. His backers can let the faithful know he’s behind them 100 percent.

                It’s much easier to compel an answer from a legislative or state executive candidate on a state ballot initiative. Even then, there are legitimate questions of scope — a CU regents candidate might rightly beg off answering, saying it’s outside the scope of his or her campaign, which is about higher ed and higher ed alone.

                The trick will be to watch everything Schaffer sends his backers to see if he tips his hand to them. And, if possible, make an issue of his refusal to answer questions on 48.  

      2. Is going to be really crucial here I think. These amendments are defined before one goes into the booth, rather than being read while in the booth, and I think that those who remain opposed to defining a person at conception, in particular organizations like EMILY’s List, should make a concerted effort to force candidates to speak out against the issue, rather than just running faceless ads opposing A48.

        A lack of clear opposition from named candidates was particularly detrimental to Ref I last year, as Ritter and Co.,  who all supported it, were quite tacit. I hope this is not the case this year.

        1. I’m guessing you mean a “lack of clear support,” rather than “opposition,” in your discussion of Ritter and Co. vis a vis Ref. I  in 2006.

          Ballot measures work differently than candidates. The default position for most voters is to vote against new laws, which is why ballot measures almost invariably must start with more than 50 percent support. (The support doesn’t have to be explicityly for a ballot measure but can be gauged by general sentiment, like opposition to bear traps.) Colorado is a liberal state when it comes to reproductive rights, with upwards of 60 percent falling pro-choice. Faced with an extreme measure like 48, support shifts even further. The amendment has little chance of passing but has a good chance of rousing hard-core Republicans who might be tempted to sit on their hands with McCain at the top of the ticket. Since this is likely to be a huge turnout year across the spectrum (with a tremendous influx of new voters supporting Obama), that turnout surge is unlikely to affect other races to the extent A-48 backers might hope.  

          1. I meant clear support.

            And I think your analysis is exactly right. I’ll be interested to see where polling begins on 48. I would venture about 45-55 for/against, which will steadily decrease.

    2. McCain’s pro amnesty stance shows he does not believe in national security and is willing to put his blind ambitions ahead of the best interests of the country.

      Many voters know that, and many will refuse to vote vote for McCain because they distrust his decision making and information processing capabilities as shown by his positions on amnesty, campaign reform and torture, among other things.

      And worse, he’s sold out to the religious radicals, which makes him even more suspect.

      1. Ok, I’m voting for Obama so I’m happy for you to not vote for McCain for any reason. But his initial take on amnesty was clearly not the best move politically and he knew that.

        Agree or disagree with McCains position and reasoning, he took the amnesty approach because he thought it was the best thing to do, not because he thought it was the best political move.

  1.    IIRC, Schaffer, speaking through Wadhams (does he communicate any other way?), announced some time back that he had yet to form an opinion on it.

      1. Makes the statement for him, thus allowing him to go on without making any firm statements he may have to abandon later when the polls change.

  2. IMHO McCain does not resonate as a Western candidate the same way as Barry Goldwater, Ronald Reagan, any Udall, or even Bruce Babbitt.  He is career military and has been in DC so long I really don’t think of him as a Westerner–to me he seems more a Beltway Republican.  He doesn’t incorporate Western into his “look” and his positions on signature Western issues seem more establishment conservative rather than regionally influenced.  Most important, he doesn’t seem to have that fierce connection to the land–whether they advocate use or preservation–that marks both Western Repubs and Dems.        

        1.    you turned a potentially ugly visual into a moment of surreal amusement.

          The question is, will he know which end of the horse to stand by?

        2. Yhey seem to be his campaign’s main idea

          “In the Navy”

          Where can you find pleasure

          Search the world for treasure

          Learn science technology

          Where can you begin to make your dreams all come true

          On the land or on the sea

          Where can you learn to fly

          Play in sports and skin dive

          Study oceanography

          Sign of for the big band

          Or sit in the grandstand

          When your team and others meet

          In the navy

          Yes, you can sail the seven seas

          In the navy

          Yes, you can put your mind at ease

          In the navy

          Come on now, people, make a stand

          In the navy, in the navy

          Can’t you see we need a hand

          In the navy

          Come on, protect the motherland

          In the navy

          Come on and join your fellow man

          In the navy

          Come on people, and make a stand

          In the navy, in the navy, in the navy (in the navy)

          They want you, they want you

          They want you as a new recruit

          If you like adventure

          Don’t you wait to enter

          The recruiting office fast

          Don’t you hesitate

          There is no need to wait

          They’re signing up new seamen fast

          Maybe you are too young

          To join up today

          Bout don’t you worry ’bout a thing

          For I’m sure there will be

          Always a good navy

          Protecting the land and sea…

          or maybe “Macho Man”

          Body…wanna feel my body?

          Body…such a thrill my body

          Body…wanna touch my body?

          Body…it’s too much my body

          Check it out my body, body.

          Don’t you doubt my body, body.

          talkin’ bout my body, body,

          check it out my body

          Every man wants to be a macho macho man

          to have the kind of body, always in demand

          Jogging in the mornings, go man go

          works out in the health spa, muscles glow

          You can best believe that, he’s a macho man

          ready to get down with, anyone he can

          Hey! Hey! Hey, hey, hey!

          Macho, macho man (macho man)

          I’ve got to be, a macho man

          Macho, macho man

          I’ve got to be a macho! Ow….

          (chorus)

          You can tell a macho, he has a funky walk

          his western shirts and leather, always look so boss

          Funky with his body, he’s a king

          call him Mister Eagle, dig his chains

          You can best believe that, he’s a macho man

          likes to be the leader, he never dresses grand

          [Repetition]

          Every man ought to be a macho macho man,

          To live a life of freedom, machos make a stand,

          Have their own life style and ideals,

          Possess the strength and confidence, life’s a steal,

          You can best believe that he’s a macho man

          He’s a special person in anybody’s land…

  3. Colorado is one of the two most pro-choice states in the union.  Remember, we defeated what everyone says is a wildly popular initiative, banning partial birth abortion. (Actually every state that has voted on this ban has defeated it.)

    This initiative will just remind pro-choice Republicans and unaffiliates how out-of-touch the Republican Party is now and will affect the swing counties of Jefferson, Arapahoe and the ski resort counties to the extent that McCain won’t be able to carry this state.

    As for Schaffer, stick a fork in him already.

  4. Not just in CO, but across the entire nation, Obama would do well to paint McCain as another Bush, as he has been trying very hard to do.  If he can crumble the mostly baseless notion that McCain is a ‘maverick’, McCain is toast.

    This is particularly true in CO and the West in general, as we have a history of supporting freethinking, albeit generally conservative, libertarian types.  McCain simply does not seem to have that aura anymore, but if Obama can destroy whatever remnants of it are left, he could easily win CO, NV, NM, and MT.

    As for 48 bringing the radical conservatives out from their hovels to vote en masse, it might, but I think that dog don’t hunt too much anymore.  It will not overcome distrust over McCain.    Even other amendments meant to do the same thing, like prop 47, the anti-family ‘right to work for less’ amendment, will not scare up that many more Republican votes.

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