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October 28, 2014 01:39 PM UTC
29 Comments
I'm sure if it was a Dem who did it in Denver, Faux News would have had a news helicopter over the city for the past three weeks focused on ballot drop off locations, to their homes were Bill O'Reilly and Geraldo would parachute in and make citizens arrests … or something.
And this guy wants to be SOS? What a douche bag and disservice to El Paso voters.
Another issue here is that it provides a hand-written signature easily lifted by frauds and identity thieves, in conjunction with the signatory's home address..
Way to go GOTP, you sick, sorry bunch of corrupt bastards.
Agree completely.l I don't even think it's legal to openly display someone's signature. Identity theft is huge and this would just give thieves another route to ruin your credit and/or name.
And who knows what the El Paso County — or any CO county — does with the envelopes after the election? Can we rest assured they're destroyed properly?
Knowing how ass-backward Somalia Springs and its environs are, they're probably selling the envelopes to identity thieves to help keep the street lights on after slashing taxes for fat cats. (Only being semi-facetious here.)
Agree. Hope some voter sues.
This is an ID theft looking for a place to happen. I'll laugh when El Paso County is sued by people who lost money because their signature was appropriated.
They have bigger problems in El Paso County, like too few firearms in the hands of kindergarteners, too many Muslims running the county government, and too mark dark-skinned carriers of Ebola . . .
Sharia Law! Sharia Law!
So what? Democrats are sending people to fish ballots out of the trash in "ghetto Aurora." I'd say that's a worse risk to your identity.
The worst risk to your character and integrity (and some would say, soul) is quoting James O'Keefe.
where is the Like or Favorite button for this reply.
This is about the best we can do…
That whole thing has been thoroughly discredited. But gosh, you just. want. to. believe. Don't you?
Sick little maggot.
Todd Shepherd operator of Complete Colorado website and Victor Head, backflow preventer and candidate for Pueblo County Clerk, both Republican conservatives, pioneered the "fish ballots out of the trash for political gain" game.
I have yet to see the undoctored video of any Democrat political operative advocating for felony impersonation voter fraud, which is what it would be if they dug a ballot out of the trash, voted it, forged a signature, and turned it in.
I'll believe that happened when I see it. We know James O'Keefe likes to frame people for quotes which they didn't actually say.
But for Shepherd and Head, they went on the record advocating that impersonation voter fraud is possible. They have the method all scoped out.
And if that's true modster, what would they do with them? If there's not a signature under the flap that matches the signature the clerk has on file, the ballot won't be counted. That's one of the reasons why you righties can't find any evidence of the an even slightly significant level of mail in voter fraud or in person voter fraud. Our safeguards work so well it takes decades to accumulate a handful of examples out of millions. What's easy as pie to find evidence of is voter suppression tactics and dirty tricks to keep people from voting, such as sending them fraudulent info about where and when to vote.
It's a pretty neat trick:
Williams (R) degrades the secrecy of mail ballots.
Gessler (R) approves.
It's El Paso County (R) so nobody complains.
If Williams wins, Rs use this to campaign against mail ballots.
Kinda like Rs being inept at governing, then complaining that government is inept.
Yup. Pretty messed up, and totally their speed.
The Party of Evil.
In the County of Evil.
Also, 12 ballot locations in the state's most populous county (one that is also 2,100 square miles)!
Denver has 23 24-hour drop off locations and 25 voting service centers. Arapahoe County has 37 drop-off locations. 12 seems kinda weak, no?
Like Paul Weyrich said, when fewer people vote, Republicans win.
Where is Marilyn Marks when you need her? She should be suing the s**t out of El Paso County.
But probably won't. You know, when Pubes do it . . .
That's a trick question, right?
Marks is in on this. (My guess). In Pueblo, she insisted that ballots are identifiable, can be traced back to voters. She offered this as evidence that election employees are handling "Republican" or "opposition" ballots differently. Of course, that used to be impossible, because of the covering signature tab.
Now, it is at least possible, in El Paso County, to trace ballots back to voters. If there is an unexpected Democratic victory or Republican loss in EPCO, a lawsuit alleging that mishandling of ballots led to election fraud, is a possibility. Marilyn Marks loves to sue clerks about election issues.
The facts that this a) makes Wayne Williams look incompetent as an election official and b) actually violates voter privacy, are collateral damage on the road to the long term goal of de-legitimizing Colorado's modern election law.
I'm not sure that this is as much about secrecy as I guess it could be about spoiling the ballot. At least in Jefferson County (and from what I can see on these pictures from El Paso County), the voters name and address is clearly visible as an address on the back of the envelope. So, my envelope is clearly identified as my envelope by looking at the back of the envelope. The value of the signature cover is that it prevents anyone from spoiling the ballot by altering the signature before it is pulled back at the clerk's office and verified. I suppose it also provides some identity theft security by not having signatures floating around on the outside of an envelope.
All this makes me think that, if any of these elections are extremely close, some kind of vote counting watchdog should keep an eye on the number of spoiled ballots in El Paso County, particularly if they are disproportionately from D heavy zip codes or precincts.
I did not know this was Wayne's doing. I hate having my signature visible outside the ballot.