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November 12, 2014 08:35 AM UTC

That's Right America, You Voted For The Ryan Plan!

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  • by: Colorado Pols
Cory Gardner, Paul Ryan.
Cory Gardner, Paul Ryan.

The New York Times' Jonathan Weisman reports:

Next year, House Republicans will try again to transform Medicare and Medicaid, repeal the Affordable Care Act, shrink domestic spending and substantially cut the highest tax rates through the budget process. Then they will leave it to the new Senate Republican majority to decide how far to press the party’s small-government vision, senior House aides said this week.

House Republican officials said the first budget blueprint of the 114th Congress will not stray far from the plans drafted by Representative Paul D. Ryan, Republican of Wisconsin and the departing Budget Committee chairman. Those plans, passed along party lines three times since Republicans took control of the House in 2011, were never going anywhere with the Senate in Democratic hands.

With this month’s Republican sweep in the midterm elections, the stakes have changed.

“They’re firing with real budget bullets,” said Representative Chris Van Hollen of Maryland, the ranking Democrat on the House Budget Committee. “Real people will get hurt.”

The so-called "Ryan Plan" budgets proposed by the Republican U.S. House majority since 2011 have been quite damaging to that party's electoral prospects, playing a significant role in the 2012 loss of the Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan presidential ticket. The Ryan budget's huge tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans, combined with proposed cuts to popular federal programs across the board–and especially the privatization of Medicare for future enrollees–poll abysmally, and have given Democrats vital evidence to support their case that Republicans don't care about the middle class.

At least that's what happened in 2012. In 2014, a very different midterm electorate handed control of the U.S. Senate to the same Republican Party that gave America the Ryan Plan budgets–including Colorado's own Sen.-elect Cory Gardner:

The last time the Ryan budget faced a vote in the Senate, in 2013, five Republicans voted against it: Ms. Collins; Dean Heller, a moderate-leaning Nevadan; Mike Lee of Utah; Rand Paul of Kentucky; and Ted Cruz of Texas, who saw the plan as too timid. It failed on an advisory vote, 40 to 59.

On the other hand, four Republican newcomers to the Senate — Representatives Tom Cotton of Arkansas, Steve Daines of Montana, Shelley Moore Capito of West Virginia and Cory Gardner of Colorado — are already on the record supporting the Ryan approach, with a fifth, Representative Bill Cassidy of Louisiana, in a runoff for the last outstanding Senate seat.

Despite the results of last week's midterm elections, we've seen no polling to indicate that the Ryan budget's cuts are any more popular now than they were two years ago. Just like the period between 2010 and the 2012 presidential elections, the gap between the midterm electorate's strident conservatism and the more representative cross-section of America that turns out in presidential years could be setting the GOP up for another failure in 2016. Republicans can't overcome a presidential veto of an unacceptable budget, which the GOP-controlled Senate may use reconciliation to pass without 60 votes: but they can dig themselves a much deeper hole with the voting public. And the results of this election may well have given Republicans the false sense of political security they need to keep digging.

What happens next? One way or another, Cory Gardner is going to help answer that question.

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17 thoughts on “That’s Right America, You Voted For The Ryan Plan!

    1. None of that "facty stuff" matters to GOP voters. While I was in Georgia, handling my Moms' affairs, I had a chance to discuss politics with my brother and his wife, both fundamentalist Christians.

      They are incredibly ignorant about anything relevant to politics, with the exception of the abortion issue, which is continually pounded into their heads by the pastor of their church and practically everyone else in their community. It is the only issue that matters to them. Even though my sister-in-law is working for the Kroger supermarket chain for minimum wage (well, actually, she got two $.05/per hr. raises in the year she has been there), none of that matters…only abortion.

       

      1. Pretty sad isn't it.  I've decided that they will get what they deserve by voting Republican or worse yet, not voting.  That sounds mean but I can't gather much sympathy for willful ignorance.

    2. Pardon my broken record bit but low info, meaning the overwhelming majority of, voters would know that they're on the same page as Dems on policy and that Rs oppose almost everything they want and that does them good if Dems weren't such spineless cowards, so timid in their let's not bring too much attention to our… uh… being Dems messaging.

      Basic Dem messaging paradigm: Let's just meekly accept the GOTP's definition of us as "too liberal' and run from anything that might get them going, including stuff polls tell us people really like. A lot. Yep. That's what all the "expert" ops were selling to candidates who put their trust in them and ignored boots on the ground folks who'd been around the block on home turf many times. WTF did we bumpkins know?

      Think Ill take a break and come back when all this rehashing of the obvious has faded a bit. Including mine. 

  1. My only hope (and it's more than likely misplaced) is that the Senator-elect pulls a Gillibrand and realizes he's no longer Representative of the conservative and mostly rural CD-4, but Senator of the moderate and mostly urban State of Colorado. 

    A fleeting hope, but hope nonetheless.  

  2. Its always amazing how the winning party always interprets a victorious campaign as and endorsement of every policy scheme they believe in even though most of their beliefs were never vetted in the most recent campaign and have been rejected by the voters in the past.

    On the budget and taxes, I've never understood the Republicans love for tax cuts and their blind adherence to the belief that massive tax cuts will automatically translate into huge economic growth and therefore more tax revenues than the government collects presently. President Reagan tried it with a 25% across-the-board reduction in federal income taxes on corporations and individuals and the $40 billion annual deficits, the ones he criticized President Carter for running up, soared to hundreds of millions. At the time, President Reagan's deficits were exponentially higher than any previous deficit. President Reagan ended-up agreeing to tax increases (he called them revenue enhancements) to stem the red ink.

    President George W. Bush came into office and inherited $800 billion annual revenue surpluses so he took the same tac as President Reagan, got Congress to pass massive tax cuts, and what happened, the budget deficits soared to all-time highs and economic growth no where came close to making up the reductions in federal revenue.

    Gov. Brownback comes along in 2010 and tells the people of Kansas all we have to do is end taxes on partnerships, sole proprietorships and LLC's and reduce rates; economic activity will soar, and state tax revenues will be more than ever before in Kansas. What happened – 15,000 businesses became a different kind of legal entity so they could avoid any state taxation, the state's reserve fund is now exhausted because revenues have collapsed and next year the state will begin to run deficits in the neighborhood of $250 million which will require massive cuts in K-12 and higher education and the highway budget. Oh, and guess what else, tax revenues have not grown in Kansas, they've collapsed. The only thing that saved Gov. Brownback in the election this year is the fact Kansas is a deep red state and the deficits won't really hit people where they live until 2015, but they're certainly coming.

    Today on the federal level, the $1.4 trillion annual deficits the government was running have been reduced by 66% by President Obama (a fact the Democrats failed to emphasize in the campaign).

    If the new Republican Congress enacts tax cuts you will see the deficit soar again. Bottom line: Supply side economics doesn't work. Its been tried three times and completely failed every time. The theory doesn't reduce deficits, it makes them larger than ever before. In 2014, the Republicans campaigned on the notion the present federal deficits are far too high and yet, when all is said and done, they want to increase them. The disconnect in all of this is amazing. They've experimented three times over the past thirty-four years with this theory and failed all three times but they want to do it again. You'd think they would learn.

    1. Elements of the Ryan tax plan make a lot of sense. What my fellow Republicans refuse to grasp is that spending has to be equally cut. Why do we have a defense budget that is greater than the combined total of the next 10 countries on the list? President Obama agreed to the "chained CPI" which would slow the growth of Social Security. Yet liberals refuse to even consider it. Why do Republicans oppose allowing Medicare to get bids from big pharma companies for Medicare drugs, instead of just paying what big pharma wants to charge, as is presently done? Just three examples of many.

      Both parties are equally to blame for not getting deficits under control; and beginning a process to pay off the national debt.   Regards,   C.H.B.

      1. Bull. Severe tax cuts were first part of the  now demonstrably false theory that was originally pushed by Rs that tax cuts so stimulate the economy they actually don't cause a decrease in revenue. Everyone makes lots of money creating plenty of revenue at reduced tax rates. That was soon pushed aside for admitting that actually it really does seriously decrease revenue but that's fine since we want to shrink government to bathtub drowning size and then everyone will be better off. That one's demonstrably bull too.  What we know is that plenty of people with well paying jobs and money to spend spreads wealth through the entire economy. Including government employees with money to spend. Businesses don't care who signs customers' paychecks as long as they have plenty of customers with nice ones. Cutting tons of them in the public sector just cuts jobs,and reduces the number of people paying taxes and spending money. Austerity is a bust. Trickle down tax policy is a bust. All of Ryan's basic premises have long been demonstrated to be wrong. Bu-bye for a while.

      2. Oh yes, Chained CPI!  As in: "Folks, if your social security check no longer lets you afford Alpo for dinner, then just buy the store brand of dog food.  It's just as tasty and good for you!"

  3. "Chained CPI….."  Having worked within social security programs for a quarter century, I know something about the inner workings, so to speak. Some points: as an age range of citizens, those over 60 are the wealthiest in American society. Yes, there are exceptions, but generally speaking, that's where the money is. The "having to eat dog food" reference is nothing more than mindless rhetoric. Second, back in the '90s, I read a piece that said that a social security recipient will earn back every penny they & employers put in, within about 12 years of going on the retirement rolls. After that, they live off the taxpayer.

    For Blue Cat, yes, federal public employees make good wages and contribute in their local economies. But, don't forget that their salaries come largely from loans made to the USA by Asian & European bankers. I agree that Obama has brought the deficit down and I will also acknowledge that Bush/Cheney blew it royally by squandering the budget surpluses left by Clinton. OK to cut taxes; but getting us into not one, but two, wars? That's hardly cutting spending. And finally, please provide a convincing argument as to why the Defense Department needs up to  1,000,000 civilian employees, not including contractors. Social Security spends more money, but has a much smaller workforce.     C.H.B.

    p.s.  "shrinking government to bathtub drowning size…."  That's just Grover Norquist bullshit. Grover has been inside the Beltway too long and thus divorced from reality. 

    1. CHB, the "living off the taxpayer" part of Social Security has always been true.  My father started paying into SS since day one, and when he finally started drawing his benefits in 1968, even though his monthly check was just a few hundred dollars, he told me that he was getting much more back than he ever put in.  That's why the ratio of earners vs. recipients is a closely watched metric of the program's viability.

      Two Democratic-supported fixes would make the program solvent well into the future, and obviate the need for Chained CPI.  1) Eliminating the contribution cap on income, and as you note, many seniors are quite well off, 2) so means testing based on assets and other income would also help the program's solvency, and not punish those that depend completely on social security benefits to survive.

      Maybe neither you nor I need social security to live comfortably in our golden years, but millions more certainly do.

    2. http://www.nytimes.com/1993/11/16/nyregion/fear-of-hunger-stalks-many-elderly.html (1993)

      "An 80-year-old widow living alone on the Upper East Side had no food at all in the house and relied on neighbors' kindness. A woman in her 80's was eating dog food until a neighbor took her to a food pantry."

      http://www.wboc.com/story/23662934/some-seniors-in-kent-county-strapped-for-cash-eat-pet-food-to-save-money (2013)

      "Many seniors are on a limited income which means they do not have enough money for food. Some would even spend one dollar on three cans of dog food instead of one can of tuna."

      http://www.wptv.com/news/state/floridas-tide-of-seniors-rising-even-faster-than-predicted (2014)

      "Some seniors have to choose medicine over food. Some actually buy dog or cat food because it's cheaper than groceries, Lugo said."

      They could be lying or mistaken, I suppose.

    3. "Having worked within social security programs for a quarter century, I know something about the inner workings, so to speak. Some points: as an age range of citizens, those over 60 are the wealthiest in American society. Yes, there are exceptions, but generally speaking, that's where the money is. The "having to eat dog food" reference is nothing more than mindless rhetoric. Second, back in the '90s, I read a piece that said that a social security recipient will earn back every penny they & employers put in, within about 12 years of going on the retirement rolls. After that, they live off the taxpayer"

      As one who has lost all liquidable assets in 2008 and living solely on Social Security income from from 46 years of maximum contribution and finding oneself without a job or anything beyond minimum wage, I find your comment outrageous.  Perhaps you may be able to define a segment within those of us in our seventies who are well-to-do, but they are far from the majority.  I will have received what I, and employers when I was not self-employed, contributed when I pass my 82nd year.  Maybe your data is accurate, but it is far from my own and many of may acquaintances' experience.  If you think you're accurate on this, please show me the complete data.   Otherwise go back to your gated community, sip your julip and talk to your rich neighbors about how us Lucky Duckies have it so goodl on the government teat.

       

  4. Teachers don't pay into social security. So pension funds are all we get – IF there is any left after the Walker Stapletons of the world finish plundering them.

    CHB I agree with you on the bloated Defense department budget. DoD keeps buying new toys, because they can, and the defense industry lobby is so pervasive. D o D then donates its old toys to local police departments who now need an excuse to use them to keep down peaceful protest, as in Ferguson.

    By the way, I thought of you when I saw the "Concert for Valor" on HBO – amazing to see thousands of veterans jamming out to Metallica, the all-time favorite combat band.

     

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