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July 18, 2008 05:03 PM UTC
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Is that, in their opinion, Will won’t do much and therefore is the least effective of the three. And if you must elect a Democrat, elect the least effective one.
Note: That is how I read the editorial, this is not my opinion of Will.
The ever faithful spinner.
Let’s see what the editorial actually has to say, and how much (or little) it matches up with your comment.
“He’s a professional conservationist who could add a needed perspective to the Washington debate.”
“What sets him apart is his lack of shrillness on issues generally, his proven ability to work with people across the political spectrum and his realism on critical issues such as health care and trade.”
“Shafroth’s level-headed approach paid big dividends while he was executive director of Great Outdoors Colorado…”
“We’d urge voters to ignore this white noise and get back to basics: Which candidate has the skills to best excel in Washington’s ego-heavy arena. We think the answer is clear.”
Not a word of this seems to indicate they made their choice based on effectiveness. Instead, it indicates they made their choice based on style–namely Will’s style (like Mark Udall) of working with Republicans and Democrats.
In addition, they criticize what they consider bad policies like Joan completely scrapping NAFTA and Jared’s Amendment 41.
Agree or disagree with their reasoning, it is pretty darn clear that their is no message in their editorial about effectiveness–only one that you made up in your never ending desperate attempt to bolster your candidate at any cost (just like he runs his campaign incidentally).
Again, I want to stress that I don’t see this in Will but that the RMN apparently does.
The above quote is a coded phrase for a rep that will vote Republican when pushed like Udall did recently on FISA. It’s like back when the phrase “states rights” was used and it had a very clear true meaning in the South.
What the RMN is saying above is they think Will will vote with the Republicans as compromise to the Republicans is do it their way.
My $0.02 worth about what they meant.
“I want to stress that I don’t see this in Will but that the RMN apparently does.”
Bullshit. You are the one who sees this.
Since you apparently know what I am thinking better than I do, there isn’t any point in my discussing this with you.
As to what I think of your response – I’m sure you can divine that too 🙂
I don’t have to read your mind. You are saying it…then saying you aren’t saying it. Pretty much the definition of B.S.
He is. But no one thinks he has a remote chance at winning and we don’t need a poll to tell us that that.
The kind of campaign he has run required that one of the heavies would drop out for some reason or another, and it did not happen.
To his credit, Will had/has an esteemed career as a leader in the enviro world. His fundraising was phenomenal, blew my mind, and made this race much more difficult for Jared since he’s also from Boulder. Not to mention he is the most likeable of the 3.
But not even names like Gates and Pena, or the hiring of such an incredible TV team as has been stated was enough to catapult him beyond 3rd. Perhaps David has contracted Polis fever but you’re not any better.
When they say Will isn’t shrill they mean it. No one thinks Will is shrill.
They hate Jared over A41–so do I.
Their resistence to JFG is harder to figure. She legislated from the center as a leader who wants to protect a small majority must (look at how super liberal Nancy Pelosi leads the house) to protect Ds in vulnerable districts. on the other hand she had a reputation for having very sharp elbows to enforce disipline, this would buttress the shrillness argument.
As to Will.
Maybe he waited to long to get his name ID up: personally I think he did because of early voting. I hope I’m wrong because I support Will. This however has nothing to do with whether he is the best choice.
David, I agree with you oftn, but don’t get so roped into your own endorsement that your analysis suffers.
When they say work together and bi-partisian compromise, what they mean is do it their way. We’ve had control of Congress for 2 years and the Dems keep rolling over for the Republicans.
I think the RMN is off-base on assuming they will get this with Will. But I do think it’s what they are hoping for.
I also think it’s why they picked Will over JFG – they know they won’t get it with her while they hope to get it with Will. My guess is JFG scares them the most because she is a very effective fighter and they know she will kick ass.
Anyways, that’s how I read the RMN endorsement. And I may be over-sensitive on this after the “let’s work together” Udall caved on FISA.
The big problem in congress is the Senate not the house.
I admit, I have come to the position of supporting Shafroth over the last two weeks. He knocked on my door 3 weeks ago and spent about 10 minutes talking with me. The others are good, but I think more cynical.
That disclaimer noted, the negative blogging on here is disappointing. The paid sockpuppets who like to spin faster than a new washing machine make my choice even that much valid (imo).
I don’t think Will has the time needed to get his name recognition up to the level he needs to be elected. I think that is the biggest impediment for him–most folks don’t even know he’s running for this seat.
That said, this is the kind of endorsement you know damn well both Polis and JFG would have killed for, so good for Will.
I have no idea where you live (so this is not a hit on you), but I wonder how many people who keep saying that he has no name ID (and I admit, it has to be way lower than the others) actually live in the district. His campaign has been a year on the ground going door-to-door in the 2nd CD. Not the 4th or the 1st. Obviously Mr. Polis has been on TV and people in the 4th and 1st see him that way. Mrs. Fitz-Gerald has years in the state-wide papers.
I guess my point is maybe he is hitting the obvious voters in a much more quite way than those who are not D’s in his district would realize. Just wondering.
Have always shown low name ID for Shafroth, although there haven’t been any leaked polls for several weeks now.
…and invariably show their candidate winning, you accept it at face value?. Kinda like how you accepted the fact that Mrs. Fitz-Gerald was paying for push polls against Mr. Polis when a double secret memo was leaked to you?
with each other and common sense. Why WOULD Will have anything other than low name ID? Especially before he went on TV?
TV is king.
You hear about different polls, and one of the consistent themes has always been low name ID for Shafroth.
Just like the consistent theme from the two other campaigns since this thing started last year that Will didn’t have a shot, even though time and time again he has proven he is a player. They have been trying to write him off so they can focus on each other.
Pols, you folks have been around politics to know that T.V. and mail saturation is an effective way to increase name ID. So, regardless of any polling done before Will started these tactics, he has plenty of funds to get his name ID to a level where he is a competitor. Stop letting the other two campaigns convince you otherwise.
He is fairly well known in Boulder city, but you would spend a long hot day in Thornton or Westminster (or for that matter, Louisville) finding something who knows his name.
And aside from the few people that are politically active he has almost no name recognition. It’s a very hard thing to build up in a couple of months.
I live in CD4. I have no idea where the majority of folks that comment on the CD2 race live.
However, I am tapped into CD2 because I work in Democratic politics and most folks I’ve talked to say Shafroth doesn’t have name recognition worth a damn. In fact, a few folks in the know couldn’t even remember his name and they are county party officers.
I don’t have a dog in this hunt so I think that actually lends credibility to my comments because I’m not in his district and am not supporting any of the three.
While it’s true Joan and Jared would have liked it, we are talking about Vince Carroll here, and the point he is basically making is Will is the least liberal of the three.
By the way, more CD2 Dems read the Boulder Weekly than the RMN. To say nothing of the Camera and the Post.
But good get for Will. With Vince involved it was obvious Jared was going to get creamed (Vince’s enmity goes all the way back to the 2004 “Gang of Four”). Wonder why they didn’t go with Joan though? Do they not know what their (few) CD2 Dem primary readers want? Or is there something deeper there?
IT DOESN’T MATTER WHO READS IT IN THE NEWSPAPER. Good campaigns take these endorsements and add them to their TV ads and their direct mail, so the voters WILL see it. Whether or not somebody actually read it in the paper today is irrelevant.
When are the Post and Camera endorsing? They are much more influential in the district. Has anyone heard anything? It’s getting awful late (election day is 3 weeks from Tuesday, believe it or not.)
Apparently, the obvious ain’t so obvious to everybody.
Vince sure gave Mark Udall good press on the opposite page in the editorial section today.
I think that Vince like many of the voters picked Will because they are fed up with the nastiness. Too bad their is not an alternative choice in the SD-18 race.
Tupa got elected in a three-way fight where the two top candidates were stabbing each other in the back (I know that a vacancy committee is not the same as a primary election–but their is some similarity).
endorsed George Bush for president twice.
Their endorsements are forever tainted with suspect motives.
Hopefully this editorial helps anyone but Polis buy this congressional seat with mommy and daddy’s money like he bought his State Board of Education Seat.
Congress shouldn’t be for sale to anyone who has the cash to play. The only difference between Polis and everyone person on this board is that he has money, not that he has vision, an interesting resume or some amazing issue to run on.
Did Jared run over your dog or something? One rarely sees such vitriol on blogs like this, even directed toward conservative Republicans, to say nothing of a liberal Dem who helped turn the state blue four years ago.
BTW, every single thing you contend is dead wrong, starting with the characterization of where he got his money (he earned every dime with companies HE started).
Stay “disinterested”. It’s best for all.
Sorry I am voicing my opinion, I thought that is what we did here.
Fill me in on how he did not buy his State Board of Education Seat. Let’s walk down memory lane to the year 2000 where Jared spent $1,262,760 obtaining his statewide seat on the Board of Education.
http://www.followthemoney.org/…
His opponent, Ben Alexander, spent $10,250 total.
http://www.followthemoney.org/…
Jared wins by a margin of 500 votes.
State Board of Education At Large
Jared Polis D 768,999 48%
Ben Alexander R 767,371 48%
Thomas D. Groover NLP 51,112 3%
And with a straight face, Boulder Dem, you’ll tell me Jared was the best man in the race? Or the fella who went out and bought a seat? It’s disgusting to democracy.
TV ads and a resume of being an elected official are no replacement for the hard work of walking door to door (and personally attending as many civic events across the CD2 as possible), meeting voters face to face as often as possible
I keep reading accounts (even on this board) that Shafroth has spent far more time weekly and far more time since last summer on walking neighborhoods across CD2. While the Fitzgerald campaign and Polis campaign were actively politicking during the caucus process to party insiders, Shafroth was out walking and meeting potential voters, getting people registered to vote.
Now I know the other two candidates have walked neighborhoods as well, but sure seems to me that Shafroth has done it longer and with more effort than his competitors.
Name ID? Many of you will be surprised come election day on the results of this CD2 race.
It’s a great accomplishment to add to the list of other Shafroth campaign accomplishments
and as mentioned above, the Rocky Mountain News was an endorsement all of the candidates actively sought out.
First, you are correct that it is very impressive that Will got the RMN endorsement and yes, all 3 worked hard to get it.
Second, we’ll see if door to door counts for a lot in a CD primary (in a state house/senate seat it is very powerful). Not only will but Steve Ward has also done a ton more door to door than anyone else in his race.
I think it’s not as powerful at this level. But in early August we have 2 good test cases.