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August 21, 2008 06:11 PM UTC

McCain Seeks Exit From Water Treaty Disaster

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  • by: Colorado Pols

As the Pueblo Chieftain reports:

U.S. Sen. John McCain tried to back away from his comments that the Colorado River Water Compact should be renegotiated, but leading Colorado Democrats said they don’t believe him…

“My recent remarks may have been mistakenly construed as a call to rescind the Colorado River Compact and commence negotiations for new water allocations,” McCain wrote to Allard. “Let me be clear that I do not advocate renegotiation of the compact.”

In an interview with The Pueblo Chieftain last week, the presumptive GOP nominee for president said the compact needs to adjust to new realities of high growth and a water supply that is becoming increasingly scarce…

“I think the word, ‘renegotiate,’ does not have double meaning,” Ritter said in a conference call with Salazar and the press on Wednesday. “It is about opening it up and negotiating it again, and the fact that he’s willing to do that again has to demonstrate in my mind, given the context of it, a bias for the lower basin states. His desire still to renegotiate it . . . was really pretty direct.”

McCain’s comments created a firestorm in the state with Democrats and Republicans alike denouncing the notion, saying McCain could lose votes over it in Colorado and New Mexico, which have been called possible swing states in this year’s presidential race between McCain and Democratic Sen. Barack Obama.

Ritter said that at best, McCain’s letter to Allard showed him “flip-flopping” on the issue.

“The verbiage with The Pueblo Chieftain was very clear,” he said. “This is a reversal of direction, but it’s a reversal that I think Colorado voters have to pay clear attention to because on the West Slope, I’m not sure there are more important issues than the issue of the scarcity of water.”

Our view: McCain is screwed on this one, and has negatively impacted his chances of winning Colorado in November. There’s an argument that he might have been better served sticking to his original statement, maybe expounding on it to make the case better for his natural position that sprawling downstream states are going to need more Colorado River water. That would have been respectable, if no less dismaying to Upper Basin states.

But the weak-minded backpedaling from his clearly articulated position doesn’t help him in the least–from suspicious Coloradans with no reason whatsoever to believe these new platitudes, to third parties around the country who care nothing for Western water battles but take note when presidential candidates fold up like an accordion.

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52 thoughts on “McCain Seeks Exit From Water Treaty Disaster

  1. equally as big of a dry-hump as the Scheaffer Marianas stuff that I’ve only seen on Pols.

    It’s a non starter, and even the moderate R’s that don’t feel particularly enthused about McCain recognize this as hyper-partisan cherrypicking, and an issue that we’ll never hear a peep out of the lefties once the election is over.

      1. All Bob Schaffer said was that the compact would be renegotiated “over my cold, dead political carcass.”

        And that’s maybe not that big a deal when you think about it.

    1. I think you mean parochial, as Colorado politicians have reached across the aisle, as it were, to denounce McCain’s original comments. The reason we won’t hear about the issue after the election is that by then no one will care what the senior senator from Arizona has to say on the topic.

          1. I just have a standard carcass.  

            I’d rather not get taxed into oblivion paying someone else’s healthcare.  

            I’d rather have schools that are run by teachers and not unions.  Mike Merrifield – if you’re reading this, I have a metaphoric kick for your nuts over all the minority students you are responsible for sending into the world with no hope, you fucking asshole.

            I’d prefer not to patronize terrorist governments.

            I just can’t vote for Obama as much as I’m proud of him and like listening to him speak.  He’s a positive addition to our country, but I’m not a fan of his policies.

            Colorado’s water rights are farther down the priority list for me.  

            Besides, by the time the issue comes up in actuality, we’ll have a Republican governor again and I’m sure he’ll handle it.

            🙂

            1. I don’t doubt you have reasons for choosing not to vote for Obama.  That said, what you’re saying now sounds a lot like, “Well, okay, McCain is wrong on this issue, but at least he’ll be too ineffectual to implement his policies, so don’t worry about it.”

              1. That’s what I’m saying.  Lesser of two evils.

                He’ll be more effective in other areas, I hope.  For me, at least he’s going to try in some areas that Obama wants to go the other way.

            2. “…I’m proud of him and like listening to him speak. He’s a positive addition to our country…”

              I’m thinking of making that my signature.

              1. I have tremendous respect for the man.  He’s an inspiration.

                Unfortunately, policy-wise, I completely disagree with him in most areas, and I hope he loses the election.

                I get extraordinarily offended when simpletons try to equate any opposition to Obama with racism.  It’s total dogshit.

                1. McCain is on the same page as Bush on everything except that he thought we should send more troops into Iraq in the first place.That’s it.  He voted to support Bush a 100% of the time this past year.

                  He wrote in his own book in 2002 that the reason he wanted to be president was not to accomplish anything grand but because it was his personal ambition to be President.  He was just asked how many houses he owns and wasn’t sure.  Answer: He and his wife own 7 houses.   Yet he attacks Obama for being willing to lose a war to fulfill an ambition to be president and he tries to paint Obama, who earned every penny of his recent wealth which will never compare to McCain’s, as an elitist. Elitist is owning so many houses you can’t even remember them all.

                  His foreign policy is more crazy aggressive than the  Bush’s.  At a recent town hall a woman commented that she didn’t see how we were going to fulfill all of our present military obligations and “follow Bin Laden to the gates of hell” without instituting a new draft and McCain answered that he didn’t disagree with anything she had said. In other words he’s a warmonger who wants our kids to feed into his war machine.  That’s his idea of diplomacy.

                  I admit it.  I’ve been wrong to say McCain as president would be a third Bush term. If it happens, God forbid, it will be MUCH, MUCH worse.   His opponent would have to be certifiably insane for McCain to be the lesser of two evils.

    2. I posted here three months and a half months ago that the “NMI controversy” wouldn’t matter to Colorado voters in November.  

      http://coloradopols.com/showCo…  

      It’s not even mentioned anymore in August.  The “Sweat Shop Bob” label went nowhere.

      The same can be said about the Colorado River Water Compact issue. The average voter is not familiar with the details of it.  What kind of authority would a president have over this agreement?  I am under the impression a lot of it was drawn up by the courts.

      McCain has clarified, corrected, retracted, retreated from (choose you own verb) his original statement.  While Democrats will continue to beat on the “dead horse” for a while longer, this will not be the deciding factor for the average voter come November.

       

          1. issues, but since it is necessary to sustain life, it is on my radar.  

            As has been pointed out this goes to the larger issue of McCain simply shooting his mouth off without thinking and then blaming the media for it.

      1. Drew

        What kind of authority would a president have over the Colorado River Compact?

        The President will pick a new Interior Secretary, who is is the chief administrator of the Colorado River Compact, and is the master of the river.

        The Interior Secretary oversees the Bureau of Reclamation, which runs the dams and controls the flows on the river.

        The Interior Secretary can put pressure on compact states to alter the compact. This is precisely what Gale Norton did when she strongly suggested the seven compact states renegotiate who would get how much water and in what priority in the event of a shortage, or drought.

        So how much influence does a President have?

        A boat-load.

        But thanks for playing…

        1. I really didn’t know and I will accept your answer at face value.  But still, I am aware that the federal courts have had a lot to do with this agreement, so there is another element to this.  I have no doubt that there is also a limit to the amount of pressure any Interior Secretary can wield on seven different states.  

          1. Hotspur is spot-on with his invocation of Gale Norton. I’ve covered water issues more than 40 years. McCain was very wise to put this issue to rest, I’m just stunned that he let it run five days before doing so.  That said, he’s backed down now, so let’s move on.

            1. That is the theme every time McCain says something stupid.  Confusing Sunni and Shia (four times in a year)? We all know he is “a foreign policy expert” (the traditional media says so), so it’s ok. Let’s move on. Confused about who is aiding Al-Qaeda? Lieberman straightened him out (and we all know he is “a foreign policy expert”–the traditional media says so), so let’s move on.

              Pick one or more: 1)McCain has not thought about water policy beyond his Arizona world view. 2) McCain doesn’t understand the west beyond his Arizona view. 3) McCain talks before thinking (see all examples above). 4)McCain is hopelessly uninformed–or confused–on many issues.

              McCain’s ignorance on water issues might remove him from consideration for Colorado voters. His ignorance or dangerously careless speech on other issues should remove him from consideration for other voters.

              Read  the original article in The Chieftain. McCain’s claim that he was misunderstood is a lie. “[H]e’s backed down now, so let’s move on”? No, let’s hold him accountable.  

              1. You pegged it, gaf. McCain’s words weren’t ambiguous in the least. Either he didn’t know what he was saying with such certainty — which is worrisome — or he did, and only later realized he’d stepped in it — which is worse. As gaf points out, this is McCain’s m.o., to bluster recklessly and ramp up the conflict, and then, if needed, renounce his earlier position and deny he ever held it. This is about water and it’s about character, and McCain comes up dry on both.

      2. McCain doesn’t know about the Colorado River compact or that Czechoslovakia has ceased to exist but it doesn’t matter.  What we are witnessing is a pattern of miscues regarding basic issues but die hard Republicans will excuse away every gaffe.

        Now if Obama made these kinds of mistakes with such regularity it would show how unfit he is for office.  You gotta love how adorable our conservatives are to not hold McCain accountable for his mistakes.

          1. is mcCains grasp on geography. that border region between Pakistan and Iraq…

            truth is, McCain must have agreed to be the latest republican puppet. there IS no other explanation.

  2. they are all high!!

    If Dems weren’t obsessed with getting stoned during the voting process they may have actually nominated somebody reasonable.

    Denver police have admitted that they will be putting pot smoking low on the list of offenses during the convention.

    The police seem to be occomodating Barak and his know habit as well as his fans who are known to get high during celebrity visits.

    1. Denver police have admitted that they will be putting pot smoking low on the list of offenses during the convention.

      Isn’t that what 100 was supposed to do? Actually, I believe it was supposed to make it THE lowest priority on their list.

    2. Apparently.

      In related news, Minneapolis police have admitted that they will be putting prescription drug abuse prosecutions low on the list of offenses during the Republican convention…

  3. I’m not so sure McCain was sticking his foot in his mouth. He’s probably locked up the jittery Nevada voters who are concerned that Las Vegas will dry up into a withered husk – like most of its tourists.

  4. Difficult to spell with a Blackberry over a bumpy road.  My apologies to all the english majors and journalists who frequent these pages.

    No apologies to the Obama apologists.

    1. And find you really tedious. Please – I implore you to leave it to the fringe lefties to insult people in every sentence they write.

      Remember – we’re Republicans…we don’t need to scream and march in the streets – we already own everything.

      🙂

        1. I’m kidding and trying to scold someone into not being so rude to people like you.

          Sorry you missed it.  If I write “:)” at the end of my post, it means I’m kidding.

          Want me to make a special one for you?  How’s this:

          (_|_)

          I have an unrelated question for you.  Have you heard of the “Pactolous Fishing Club” that supposedly holds some sway over Beaver Creek in Gilpin?

  5. with the posts that say that water is not a lot of Coloradans #1 issue in this election.  But I also think that for me personally it isn’t so much an issue of how or what he can do about it as President as just an extremely stupid thing to say given the context (in CO running for President).  I think a lot of Coloradans have pride in their state and have a hard time respecting irresponsible growth and irresponsible use of our water in places like Vegas and Phoenix.  The idea of breaking the law by collecting rain water in this state is somewhat humiliating.  And, he says it needs renegotiated after he must have been unaware of the 2007 negotiation because barring his unawareness, he is basically calling all of the 7 governors and states incompetent, as they came up with an agreement and apparently McCain thinks its not a good one.  Whether he is being ignorant or condescending, that is not good.  

    Obama may not understand water rights all that well (or he may, I’m not really sure), BUT he didn’t go out and make a moronic statement on Colorado water rights in Colorado that pissed off a lot of Coloradans.  His image as a Westerner is tarnished as these statements showed ignorance for a Western issue, and now I can think of him only as an Arizonan (granted, it’s not as if I was going to vote for McCain anyways).  If he cannot get over his biased towards his home state, he will not be an effective President.  

    Sorry that was a long rant.

    I think this issue may take off, we will see!

    1. Having spent a decent number of my formative years growing up in Northern Colorado, I disagree that the people of Colorado do not see this as a large issue.  Talk to those along rivers that have been trying to farm.  There are huge problems with farmers and water that are a result of the drought we’ve had.  The thought of renegotiating what little water they have access to is a threat to their livelihood and their homes.  The small farmers of Colorado are voters to, and they care a lot.

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