Two new polls, as the Washington Post reports:
With the eyes of the political world focused on Denver, Democrats are touting two new polls as evidence that the Colorado senate race is trending their way.
A Suffolk University poll conducted in the state Aug. 21-24 showed Barack Obama leading John McCain in the presidential race, 44 percent to 39 percent, while also showing Rep. Mark Udall (D) ahead of ex-Rep. Bob Schaffer (R) in the Senate contest, 39 percent to 31 percent.
The poll result was similar to that of another survey, taken Aug. 13-15 by Mason-Dixon Polling & Research Inc. for the Denver Post, that gave Udall a 10-point lead (and Obama a 3-point margin over McCain).
Republicans were skeptical of that survey, with Schaffer campaign manager Dick Wadhams telling the Post: “That flies in the face of just about every other number I’ve seen in this race, and I think Mason-Dixon had a bad night. This poll is so far off the mark, I can’t even respond to it.”
Of course that’s what Wadhams is going to say, but it’s not anywhere near accurate: far from “flying in the face” of other polling, this result continues a positive trend for Udall first indicated a week ago after some tightening in the race at the end of last month.
Especially interesting is how these are results obtained at the height of the recent saturation TV campaign against Udall. Are the shrill-cum-silly attacks on Udall by pro-Schaffer 527s losing traction?
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Udall’s numbers have been very stable since May, with 8 polls (now 9 with Mason-Dixon) showing him 6-10 pts ahead:
http://www.realclearpolitics.c…
Why throw good (and precious little) money after bad money?
Wait until the ads make it all the way up…
Oh never mind.
to use his ‘leverage’ with Colorado reporters to turn the truth into fiction.
His game is over except with gullible reporters in Colorado, who know that he is good for a juicy quote and they don’t care how unsubstantiated it is.
I don’t know whether those reporter are:
a:sheep being led to the slaughter;
b:lemmings being led over the cliff
c:too lazy to care.
Either way, in the absence of a ‘quotable’ Dem alternative (which is unfortunate, the Party needs an attack dog not associated directly with any campaign – Pat Waak is not that person – but apparently that is not forthcoming), Wadhams will still command the attention of reporters who are too lazy to ferret out the truth or do more than simply recycle DickWads spin.
That is partly the fault of the reporters for being better journalists, and partly the fault of the dems for not playing the game better.
Some should remeber that Wadman is supposed to be Rove 2.0, however Rove 1 is history and lost the last election significantly in spite of his bragadoccio regarding polls he ahd seen and how the Rs were going to win.
Rove plays hardball. He used the US Justice Dept to go after his opposition targets. These were mostly fishing trips.
I doubt that Mr. Wadhams has access to government intelligence files on all his opponents in Colorado,
or Wadhams 2.0
Are still behind Nixon 0.0
“Tell the lie often enough and it becomes the truth.”
it be that Udall’s ads connecting Schaffer to big oil have been effective.
I’ve also heard many say that ad with the cardboard cut-out looking Udall doing a little jig or whatever is so stupid it says more about the campaign putting it out than it does about the candidate being attacked. It’s the kind people mute immediately.
Glad to hear it.
They just need to do an ad with God telling Moses not to vote for Udall. I think he’ll win in a landslide.
and if one is going to target relatively uninformed voters, the Olympics is a good place to place those ads.
The Suffolk U poll has a very low decided rate (just 70%), less than any other that I’ve seen in this race. This suggests to me that the MOE in that poll may be understated, although it may also show the impact of mutual negative advertising.
..I take exception to your remark. After calculating the random gynmanastic scores of the pre-teen gymnasts, I think I’m able to see through the partisans hacks who put together commercials.
Because after watching Olympic boxing for 32 years, they made no sense to me.
..the average voter/viewer. Kudos to the partisan hacks behind the boxing scores.
The Republicans managed about a 20 year run using the approach of yelling at the press that they were liberally biased. And it did cause the press to toe the conservative line as that type of pressure works.
But what’s happened over the last 4 or so years is we on the left have done the same thing claiming that the press is conservatively biased, not because it’s proper (it is accurate) but because it’s the only effective counter.
So via many mechanisms, including the blog-o-sphere, we have neutralized this approach. Dick is using a strategy that served him well in the past, but is no longer effective.
Hopefully he sticks with it through November.
or maybe people are just over responding to that….
He’s got a message discipline problem. The campaign’s allies aren’t with him on the “BoulderLiberalUdall” thing – they just can’t seem to make it roll off the tongue like Wadhams can…
…Mark Udall is not a liberal. That’s a very difficult sell.
That is pathetic, there is no way Bob Schaffer is going to win this election. And I’d like to hear David’s reasoning on why Mark Udall is not a liberal–we all know he’s from Eldorado Springs and not Boulder, but what is he? Conservative?
Neither of the polls pushed leaners very hard; 39-31 is hardly a ringing endorsement of either candidate…
All I have to say is that Wadhams has been at the mind-altering substances for a bit too long if he thinks all the other numbers are in his candidate’s favor.
the ratio of negative 527 ads favors Schaffer’s oil and corporate buds by at least a 2:1 margin, and Bob’s relatively well-liked within his own party, those numbers are abysmal.
Udall is a fairly typical Western Schweitzer-Tester-Ritter pro-gun, pro-conservation, libertarian liberal.
Coastal types are typically anti-gun, anti-business, authoritarian liberals. Not the same species.
…fact that Mark Udall will take any postion, vote any vote, make any speech, with the sole criteria being what is best for his getting elected.
To use Ken Gordon’s recent question, name one thing Udall has done in the last 2 years that substantially negatively impacted his chances in the Senate race.
When the winds of change (including but not limited to the electorate, the Congressional leadership, and general circumstances) happen to have aligned with Udall’s position and record.
It’s also a stupid question when you consider that Colorado is basically split 50/50 ideologically, so logically everything he does is going to piss off about 50% of everybody.
And once again you apparently haven’t been watching TV. Maybe you haven’t noticed the $5 million in attack ads over the last two weeks for Mark taking a strong progressive position on EFCA.
In reality, Mark Udall should be leading Bob Schaffer right now. With all the Dems in town for the DNC, the Democratic coverage has got to help Udall’s numbers. Come next week though, we will see what the real numbers look like. Once people begin to learn about his anti-worker sediment and his backing of the Employee Free Choice Act, things will change for Mr. Udall.
There has been nothing coy about the Democrats courtship with BIG LABOR this election cycle. The only reason Mark Udall supports EFCA is because union leaders are estimated to spend half a million dollars on political campaigns this cycle, specifically giving to democratic candidates, like Udall.
According to the BLS, Colorado ranks very low nationally for Union Membership.
Oh that Bureau of Labor and their damn statistics!
Which is how the right-wingers want it.
http://www.unionfacts.com/stat…
If that’s low, I would hate to see what high union membership is!
You couldn’t ask for a more non-partisan, non-agenda driven group of people.
Over 91% of all employees in Colorado are NOT in a union!
And for some reason you think unions have a lot of power here???
6thCD, I think your head would explode. This is such a lackluster union state.
Plus, you might as well be getting your facts from 19th century robber barons if you’re getting them from the website you linked to.
Here’s another site for you to check out:
http://www.richplutocratssmokingcigarsandlaughingabouttheplightofthepoor.com
Udall’s been leading for most of the race, and the poll precedes the start of the convention.
But if you want to feel confident and slack off, go ahead.
because he’s only up by 8! He should be up by 16! That means he’s actually DOWN by 8!”
Interesting to see Republicans have now extended Obama-logic to Udall-logic. But it kind of makes my brain hurt to parody it.