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(R) Greg Lopez
(R) Trisha Calvarese
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President (To Win Colorado)
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(D) Joe Biden*
(R) Donald Trump
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CO-01 (Denver)
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(D) Diana DeGette*
90%
CO-02 (Boulder-ish)
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(D) Joe Neguse*
90%
CO-03 (West & Southern CO)
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(D) Adam Frisch
(R) Jeff Hurd
(R) Ron Hanks
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CO-04 (Northeast-ish Colorado)
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(R) Lauren Boebert
(R) Deborah Flora
(R) J. Sonnenberg
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CO-05 (Colorado Springs)
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(R) Dave Williams
(R) Jeff Crank
50%↓
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CO-06 (Aurora)
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(D) Jason Crow*
90%
CO-07 (Jefferson County)
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(D) Brittany Pettersen
85%↑
CO-08 (Northern Colo.)
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(D) Yadira Caraveo
(R) Gabe Evans
(R) Janak Joshi
60%↑
35%↓
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State Senate Majority
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August 23, 2015 07:44 AM UTC
28 Comments
Say it's so, Joe!
It won't work unless something more than the drip drip causes HRC to tank significantly. I do think Biden would be the best at working with congress. Even though we can’t expect Rs to do anything but obstruct until they get the WH back, if we can elect more Dems to the House and Senate under a Dem President like long time, well liked legislator Biden, a lot can be accomplished by rallying the Dems, something that Obama was lousy at from day one. I don't see that as a Sanders or Warren strong suit either.
Perhaps not, although I'd much prefer a President Biden to a President Clinton …
… Of more immediate concern, however, is what I see as being a needed credible challenger to Her
HighnessWith you on that. If Biden is in at caucus time, I'll caucus for him. If not, I'll caucus for Bernie. HRC will almost certainly win anyway but I'd like to send her a message.
Here is one potential consequence if Joe does jump in:
Hillary is currently coming under withering fire from the GOP because she is the clear favorite. Who thinks the GOP attacks would be any less virulent if Sanders or Biden were perceived as the frontrunner? Which of the three do you think is best capable of withstanding those attacks?
But as long as Trump is in the race, the Republicans have a far worse problem.
Which is all you need to know to explain Trump's popularity and the dismal support for the entire GOP field.
Pretty sure nobody thinks the GOP attacks would be any less virulent on any front runner so that's not really something we need to factor in. My problem with HRC isn't that being attacked by mean Republicans will make her less electable. Mean Republicans attacked the hell out of Obama to no avail. In herself with just a little help from mean Republicans, she has plenty of qualities that make her electability problematic, depending on her opponent.
I also assume, from all of her history to date, that she will be an extremely secretive President, that getting any transparency out of an HRC administration will be like pulling teeth and that she will not be able to resist using her position to punish her perceived enemies and set herself up to become even more wealthy than her political career by marriage has already made her to date. Pursuing vengeance and amassing wealth appear to be among her very favorite activities.
Not qualities I particularly look for in a potential leader of the free world though we appear to be stuck with her and any R would be much worse. But she's going to have to get the nomination without any help from me. Pretty sure that won't be a problem for her. After she does I'll vote for her as the less repulsive of two evils. In caucus I won't support her. I will support Biden, if he's running, Sanders otherwise.
The Dems have failed to do anything about progression. HRC, Warren, Biden and Sanders are all older than me, and I am old. O'Malley could not get traction if sand was poured on the walk in front of him.
The entire meme that HRC is destined to be president in '16 has been flawed from the beginning. Although the GOP has hate in its body for everything Clinton, they really hate her, and will do anything and everything to attempt to ruin her. Fortunately she keeps on winning.
But, having HRC as the designated winner prevents others from getting up and testing the waters. With Sanders and Biden putting pressure on her, she is at least starting to notice the little people and react a tiny amount. A Biden/Warren ticket would sure get HRC to react a lot more.
That's what I'm waiting for: for Biden and Warren to present themselves as a ticket for the rest of the contest. If it's Joe solo, I suspect many will just say "meh."
Whether it's HRC, Biden or Sanders, any of these seniors had better get a young exciting minority running mate like Castro. Rs can't win without at least 34% of the Hispanic vote. GW got it. Romney only got 27%. Dems need the young and minorities, not just women. And not just choice.
That question just crossed my mind as I was reading down the thread. Who will HRC choose as her second?. Sanders or Warren would be a sop to the progressive wing. Although, someone like O''Malley, who really doesn't stand a snowball's chance on his own wouldn't be a bad pick either.
Julian Castro, currently HUD Secretary, previously 3 term mayor of San Antonio. He's 40, has a twin brother who is a sitting member of Congress, and is Stanford grad with Harvard Law Degree.
With him, you have great entry to the latino community, plus he is young and good looking.
His negatives, at least from a certain perspective, are that he is a supporter of affirmative action, and his mother helped found La Raza Unida.
I like him, and have since I learned about him. He should be on any short list for VP.
Supporting affirmative action is pretty much a Dem thing so I don't see that as much of a draw back. People who strongly object aren't going to be voting for a Dem anyway. If not him it can't be just another older white pol. If the African American, Latino and young voters who came out for Obama don't come out in similar numbers any Dem candidate is going to have a tough time. The Dem ticket has to be one that energizes those Obama voters and ensures that the R can't possibly reach the 34+% of the Latino vote an R needs to win.
But, unless he turns 42 before January of '17, Castro isn't qualified. He has to be 42 and able to serve as President from day one. Remember William Henry Harrison.
No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.
U.S. Constitution Article II, Section I
He'll probably get carded, but he'll get served.
Don't know where you got 42.
Maybe because the youngest was Teddy at 42?
Also not sure why we should remember Harrison in connection with minimum age.
Sheila Jackson Lee
If there is indeed a three way contest between Bernie, Hillary, and Joe (nice how we're on first name bases with our candidates), I'd say Bernie's chances of winning are excellent. Smarter pols than me have undoubtedly already scoped this out.
Sorry. Bernie has a ceiling and it's not high enough to win the nomination.
The Lech vs. The Liar vs. The Loon.
These are much better https://www.google.com/search?q=gop+clown+car+cartoons&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0CCEQsARqFQoTCJzl5OqPwMcCFUkOkgodMMcJIw&biw=1920&bih=981
We could get all cute and alliterative with the GOP top 3, too. That would be a fun game. Quick, name these candidates:
The Snake, the Swagger, and the Sociopath. No?
How about the Bully, the Buffoon, and the Bastard?
This could go on.
Lessee..on that first one……Donald Trump, Donald Trump, and Donald Trump…just kidding…um..Cruz, Trump, and Christie…?
and the second one…Christie, Perry, and Jindal?
I was just reading something on Politico a few minutes ago suggesting that Christie's washed up and will probably only make in the junior varsity debate next round.
For round one, I had Walker, Trump, and Cruz in mind.
For round two, Christie, Bush, and Walker. But yours works well, too.
AC, if you ever wanted to engage in an intelligent discussion many of us would be happy to. We aren't monolithic behind all Dems or a fixed set of policies or everything Obama's does or all of anything. We have independent thoughts and we share them. We respond to one another, sometimes agreeing, sometimes disagreeing and sometimes agreeing to disagree.
We'd be happy to engage with you on that level and some of us would actually agree with you once in a while. For instance… you don't like HRC. Neither do I. But you aren't at all interested in thoughtful discussion or finding so much as a square inch of common ground. You're only interested in posting juvenile cartoons and insults and parroting talking points. I have no idea why you bother to post here. You can't really be so stupid as to think your childish posts will cause any progressive to switch to your side. You're clearly not here to convince or pursuade anyone of anything
So, why are you here? You don't even have the power to annoy anymore if that's what you want. Pretty sure most of us just view you as a pathetic, boring waste of space, just so much clutter. Is that your goal? If so… congrats. Mission accomplished. Please feel free to piss off.
should be easy for a PissAnt….