You may have noticed that we moved Democrat Peggy Lamm above Ed Perlmutter on the CD-7 Line (the Big Line is usually updated on Sundays), and there’s a good reason why. We’ve had Perlmutter ahead of Lamm for virtually the entire existence of the CD-7 Line, but it’s hard to ignore the bad signs for Perlmutter anymore.
First, here’s what The Hill had to say about the CD-7?race:
Former state Rep. Peggy Lamm, who is running for the seat Rep. Bob Beauprez (R-Colo.) is vacating to run for governor, is predicting she will submit nearly 3,000 signatures to election officials this week to get on the Democratic primary ballot. Only 1,000 signatures are required, but as Charlie Wilson, a Democratic candidate in Ohio, discovered earlier this year, it?s better to be safe than sorry…
…Lamm is considered the front-runner in the Democratic primary. A Ridder/Bradden Inc. poll in February showed her having the highest name identification and favorability rating in the Democratic field. And a survey conducted by Lake Snell Perry Mermin/Decision Research showed Lamm leading Perlmutter.
We hear that not only is Lamm polling ahead of Perlmutter, but she’s been telling supporters that?- are you ready for this? – Herb Rubenstein is polling?in second place.?Of course, there’s still a long way to go in this race, but if Perlmutter is really polling in third place, he’s in trouble.
For his part, Perlmutter recently polled to see if people who were identifying themselves as Lamm supporters were confusing her with former sister-in-law Dottie Lamm. Perlmutter’s camp believes, with good reason, that Lamm’s name ID is largely unconnected to her first name; but even if that is true, name ID is still name ID.
Lamm has also reportedly hired one of the top direct mail firms in the business – Malchow/Schlackman – whose wickedly effective attack mail was credited in large part with Gov. Janet Napolitano’s victory in Arizona in 2002.
Not all is lost for Perlmutter, however, because he still has more money than Lamm and should be able to maintain that fundraising lead through the primary. But it looks like Perlmutter will need every last dollar to put himself in position to win in August.
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come on, do you really believe that Herb is polling ahead of Ed? Of course she’s telling people that – it marginalizes Perlmutter.
This has nothing to do with Lamm buying the lead banner ad space on ColoradoPols, of course.
I mean, you would use the poll from February to move her up in the rankings today even if she weren’t paying you, right?
Wow, I love the circular-ness of it all. Pols cites The Hill, which is really pulling this information from un-substantiated claims that originated on Pols! Credible journalism at its best!
I’m sick and tired of the coverage on this race ignoring the people in the district. Ed has support, support from people actually inside the district, who actually vote! Peggy’s website contains a list of 152 “Community Supporters.” Of these, only 32 are actually registered voters in CD-7 and 11 of those are not even Democrats!
Ed has the support of numerous local organizations, who will get their people to the polls to support Ed in August:
AFL-CIO
American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME)
Airline Pilot’s Association (ALPA)
The American Postal Workers Union (APWU)
Colorado Credit Union League (CCUL)
Colorado Education Association
Colorado Professional Firefighters
Communications Workers of America Local 7777 (CWA)
Denver Theatrical Stage Employees Union Local 7
International Longshoremen’s Association
International Association of Bridge, Structural, Ornamental and Reinforcing Iron Workers
Keeping America’s Promise (Senator John Kerry’s PAC)
Laborer’s International Union
Mountain West Regional Council of Carpenters
National Air Traffic Controllers Association
National Association of Letter Carriers Local 47 (NALC)
Plumbers Local Union #3
Professional Airways Systems Specialists (PASS)
Service Employees International Union (SEIU)
Sheet Metal Workers Local 9
Teamsters Local 537
Transportation Trades Department
Transport Workers Union of America
United Food and Commercial Workers (UFCW)
United Transportation Union
Herb has over 2000 signatuers with four days to go.
Herb has received hundreds of phone calls and e-mail responses to his direct mail. Herb’s anti War In Iraq message is working with average CD7 voters. It is no surprise that Herb is in second
TBTH
Pols clearly says that Peggy Lamm is the one saying that Herb is in second. TBTH don’t shoot the messenger. Ed Perlmutter’s campaign is in a tailspin. Malchow / Schlackman do the best negative mail in the business. Ed is in for a long, long summer.
By the way TBTH The Hill newspaper states that a poll conducted by Celinda Lake puts Peggy ahead. TBTH is the HIll selling out for a Lamm ad too? Isn’t Celinda Lake Ed’s pollster? I remember TBTH criticizing pols for saying that the Lake poll showed Ed behind Lamm. And, it turns out to be true. Ed is behind.
Um…the Hill cites a poll by Lake Snell Perry Mermin/Decision Research, not Celinda Lake. The alleged/rumored Celinda Lake poll never materialized.
Don’t shoot,
I am in total agreement with you that Pols is just acting as a messenger for the Lamm campaign on this one.
They are clearly not using any objectivity or critical analisys, but are just carrying the spin to an audience as requested.
There are three phases to the election. Getting on the ballot. Getting through the primary. Getting through the general.
We just finished fighting round one, and it clearly went to Ed. He is on the ballot with Top Line privilages. Herb did a good job of mobilizing volunteers and getting a lot of signatures. Peggy paid her way in, using hired in-district signers paid for with out-district money.
Emily’s List has kept Peggy afloat, but so far she has shown no abillity to build on that at all.
If Pols really wanted to stand by their story, they should go ahead and put Herb in the number two place. Or are there limits to how far they can spin this one?
Good to see Colorado Pols kissing Malchow/Schlackman’s ass. Is is because Terry Snyder ripped off one of their no-tear mail pieces for Rubenstein and he’s trying to make good? Sorry, but inside-the-beltway Malchow can’t help Lamm’s sinking ship nor can Colorado Pols puffing her up with that bullshit Ritter/Braden poll.
The confirm the accuracy of the poll (or even it’s existence), you need to talk with Dick Leggitt.
Hey Wonder Monkey — the Lake in the Lake, Snell is Celinda Lake.
The same comments made by Colorado Pols were made by The Hill a well regarded DC political paper
Hey messenger,
You don’t think that The Hill was just fed this information by someone who read that information on Pols? If not, please post the poll results right now, if they are out in the open. If you can’t do that, then this is just circular speculation.
don’t shoot-
I’ll admit when I’m wrong. I missed that one.
I’d still like to see this alleged poll. At least the Ridder/Bradden poll is out there to be analyzed, but from what I understand the Lake poll was on an unrelated topic for an unrelated campaign and not specific to this race.
Maybe John Ferrugia can unearth Ed’s poll so we can all see it.
Found it…shortly after speculation arose surrounding the Lake poll they released this statement, stating why the conclusions being drawn were bogus:
A little clarification may help here. The poll about whether people are confusing Dottie Lamm with Peggy Lamm is a NEW poll, conducted within the last week or two. This is NOT the same poll that may or may not have been conducted several months ago, of which there has been much previous discussion.
“And a survey conducted by Lake Snell Perry Mermin/Decision Research showed Lamm leading Perlmutter.”
I think what we’re referring to here, is CoPols giving credence to The Hill for publishing what is fuzzy, at best, information. Which poll is The Hill referring to?
“We hear that not only is Lamm polling ahead of Perlmutter, but she’s been telling supporters that – are you ready for this? – Herb Rubenstein is polling in second place.”
Again, it’s all about “hearing” this information. I would like to see some indisputable facts, please. And of course this is what Peggy is saying- are you really so gullible, CoPols? Exactly what has her advertising dollar purchased from you?
uh huh: Where has Lamm been telling supporters that Rubenstein is polling in 2nd place? Can you verify that it’s Lamm/her campaign saying that?
where?-
I don’t think we know where/if Lamm has been saying this. CoPols reported it as hearsay in the above post, but that’s it. Put as much stock in that as you’d like I guess.
where? –
No, I cannot verify that, but then again, I’m not the one making front-page blog posts about it in a very public forum. If you’re looking for verification, I would suggest asking the authors of the claim- CoPols. I understand your concern though; I share it.
The old poll (probably the Feb. one) had Peggy in 1st place, Rubenstein in 2d, and Perlmutter in 3d. Wasn’t Peggy only at 26% or 28%, with the other two trailing badly?
Dear uh huh:
Thanks for posting that labor list. If you add Ed’s labor backing to Deanna’s Perlmutter’s Dutko Group right-wing business clients you have the perfect special interest sandwich. Yum. That’s just what we need in DC: another husband/wife member/lobbyist team. Haven’t we had enough special interest representation in Washington?
[…] There are obviously some strong opinions about the Democratic primary in CD-7, but maybe this new poll can help solve the riddle of which of three Democrats is ahead among Democrats. […]
Hit pieces against Ed by Peggy??? LOL!!
Let see, where to begin. How about a piece to Democratic primary voters something like, “you know, 4 years ago a Boulder politician moved into the 7th district and became our congressman. Now, we have a chance to elect a real member of our community to Congress. And what do we get? Another carpetbagger from Boulder trying to tell us what’s right for the 7th District. And she’s even being investigated by the District Attorney for posssible election law violations for registering to vote improperly in the 7th District.”
And how about, “In 2004, Peggy Lamm endorsed Republican Bill Owens for re-election as Governor. Since that time, Bill Owens has (here insert whatever BS you want targeted to the voter about all the bad crap Bill Owens has done in the last 4 years). Now Peggy Lamm has the arrogance to ask us as Democrats to support her in the primary election for Congress. What will these politicians think of next? Vote for the real Democrat in the race, Ed”
And how about a really nasty one. “Where does Peggy Lamm stand on immigration? Does she support Dick Lamm’s positions on closing the borders and official English and (a whole bunch of other stuff that won’t be too popular with Hispanic Democrats)?”
I know, I know. Not fair. But if she is going to trade on a name which isn’t even hers, she needs to take the downside too. You know, you live by the sword and you die by the sword.
Geez, and I’m not even a pro at this crap. It’s just too easy. Shall we start in on a nasty divorce? What about her ex-husband’s law clients, since I’m sure she’s going to raise Ed’s firms clients. You know. Peggy, you really should have just waited for two years and run where you belong in the Second District. But, I guess Joan and Jared and the rest of them are just too much competition for ya. Well, we’ll see where the competition is. Remember, Ed was the first Democrat elected to his Senate seat in umpteen years. He didn’t get their easily and he didn’t stay there easily. They called him a baby-killer to his wife’s face and still he managed to keep his cool and win the election.
I suspect you’re about to see the onslaught begin. Should be fun.
mmm, sandwich-
If I understand your argument, Ed is a slave to “special interests” because he has the endorsement of labor groups and will also have to bow to business interests. So which side exactly are you claiming he will represent? Seems like being beholden to Labor *and* Business would be tough, but Labor has seen fit to endorse him across the board. Apparently they think he’s not “in the pocket” of Big Business like people love to claim…
If Piper runs as lax a primary campagn for Perlmutter as she did for John Walsh (Denver D.A. candidate), he’s in trouble. My non-insider view was that Piper did a good job getting assembly delegates (helped by a good speech by her candidate), but was ineffective in reaching the much broader pool of primary voters. There were obvious opportunities lost. What’s her other work been like?
Mmm, sandwich-
Well partner, knowledge is power, and making a uneducated blast at labor/mixed with business, only highlights your ignorance to the history of the two groups. Give me ONE politician who ONLY listens to there constiuents. NAME me one citizen who is on the hill EVERY DAY after work to talk about the issues effecting her/him at home. YOU cannot, because they don’t exist. Get OVER the LABOR/BIG buisness special interest. Until Trade associations go away, they all will cater to the special interest, because Americans are too apathetic to get involved. Last time I checked, the year was 2006, not 1776! Labor and business built this country and yes, with undocumented immigrants. Buinesses brought us capitolism and the opportunity to have economic freedom, and labor brought us economic justice, the weekend, 8 hours days, overtime, health benifits and yes your DAMN retirment. Think before you speak! Perlmutter as Lamm have a historical value to both labor and Colorado businesses, and labor most likely has a longer history with Perlmutter, therefore thier candidant. Mmm, sandwich-
guess what, I am sure if Perlmutter choose not to run, they (LABOR) would have most likely endorsed LAMM, because of her history with LABOR. If you want to be like HOLTZMAN and take every opportunity to sling with mud, and ruin a good race. I hear he is looking for some good folks. If you want good ol fashion congressional election, then get out and work for your person (I am assuming that is LAMM, or Herb, and not Perlmutter) Because I know I will do everything I can and as positive as I can to elect a friend who is not afraid to fight for what working families (LABOR) stand for.
sorry for some of the spelling.
All this really shows is that Lamm is running a nastier PR machine at the moment.
The critical factors right now are the support on the ground (anybody who has been around the disctrict knows that Ed easily has this. Peggy has to hire people for signatures, no volunteers? And a quick glance at the FEC reports will show that a small fraction of her donations have come from within CD7), and money for the oncoming media showdown. Ed is still creaming her financially, and you’d better believe the Lamm camp is spending a lot of cash to generate this buzz.
As I’ve said before, Ed is intensley ethical with any negative advertising, something that Peggy’s campaign doesn’t seem to be concerned with. They’re going for the throat and reaping some momentum for the moment, but I also believe this is just playing their hand early. When Perlmutter comes out with some negative campaigning, it’s going to hit hard, but it will be all factual. No shallow inuendos are suggestions like the Lamm ads.
Just the last few comments on this board demonstrate the weakness of their approach – Ed is a special interest magnate? His universal labor support says otherwise. A few commercials reminding voters that Peggy doesn’t live in the disctrict and sold out to a Republican to further her political career are going to do a hell of a lot more than people seem to think.
The Lamm people also love to act like Ed’s lifelong roots, involvement, and leadership in the area don’t matter. What we’re talking about here is getting active primary voters to the polls. Ed represented the place as a senator and is well-liked throughout the district. People remember their senator and the job he did. Peggy can’t buy that support, and her forthcoming attack mail isn’t going to sway the thousands that have known and trusted Ed for years.
[…] There was much discussion over our post last week that Democrat Peggy Lamm is the new favorite in the CD-7 primary, but we aren’t the only ones who have noticed the shifting winds. Here’s Friday’s update from “The Fix” atВ The Washington Post: 1. Colorado’s 7th District: Former state Rep. Peggy Lamm (D) has turned her primary with former state Sen. Ed Perlmutter (D) into a real race. Meanwhile, Republican Rick O’Donnell sits on the sidelines and collects cash — $686,000 on hand at the end of March. Still, this suburban Denver seat is moving away from Republicans demographically, and 2006 is shaping up to be another good year for Colorado Democrats. (Previous ranking: 1) […]