Answering the latest round of proposed congressional redistricting maps from Republicans, Democrats unveiled today a new map they say is the result of discussions with Republicans “at all levels,” and a compromise from their previous “City Integrity” map proposal. While acknowledging feedback they’ve received in the last couple of weeks–“some organic and some produced from partisan groups”–Democrats say this new map still reflects their originally stated guiding principles of competitiveness, integrity of meaningful political boundaries, and preservation of communities of interest.
On a practical level, you can see that this map does represent significant concessions from “City Integrity.” The West Slope is now “whole,” to the extent it ever was without Eagle, Grand and Summit Counties–this always struck us as more of a symbolic than realistic objection. Larimer County remains unspoilt, and the city of Grand Junction’s sacred honor is no longer threatened by Rep. Jared Polis of Boulder. El Paso County is undivided. And now that it’s actually public knowledge where Rep. Mike Coffman wants to live, it looks like Democrats were charitable enough draw his new home into a nonetheless more competitive 6th District. This map also increases GOP representation in swing CD-7 at the expense of registered Democrats.
Overall, the “Colorado Compromise” map appears to clarify and drive home the foremost desired goal of Democrats, which is to create competitive districts: a goal they insist was an overarching theme in public hearings around the state. That said, Democrats have identified six major principles they say any new map should reflect:
1) To equalize population, so that Coloradans in each of the seven districts have an equal voice on the national level making sure we adhere to the principle of one person-one vote.
2) To not dilute any single ethnic minority’s ability to elect a representative of their choosing as dictated under the Federal Voting Rights Act
3) To not split political subdivisions whenever possible, especially county boundaries in rural Colorado and city boundaries along the Front Range
4) To recognize the communities of interest that exist around the state
5) To make districts as compact as physically as possible.
AND
6) To create districts that reflect the politically competitive nature of the state, and does not provide safe seats and congressman for life.
Bottom line: we really get the sense that Democrats would like to make a deal here, even though conventional wisdom suggests they have less to lose than the GOP should the matter end up in court as it historically usually has. This latest Democratic map undeniably represents concessions from their original proposal, and substantially disarms specific points of criticism, valid or not, against which the “City Integrity” maps had proven vulnerable. Though Republicans billed their latest map yesterday–which increases GOP odds in five of seven districts–as the “last best hope” for compromise, perhaps today’s map really is.
The answer to that question…is up to the party with more to lose.
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I have certainly read lots of comments, letters, and quotes expressing outrage that GJ would be linked with Boulder. Should I dig some up?
That said, I like keeping the 3rd mostly as is, and this map gets closer.
Pols seemed to be insinuating that we here in GJ have some sort of personal beef with Polis, as if we’re a bunch of toothless gay-bashers. That was a non-issue to me. Linking us with Boulder, no mater who represents Boulder, was what was absurd to me. My main objection to the old Dem maps was a “hub and spoke” concept that basically linked every square mile of rural Colorado with some population center in the I-25 corridor.
As far as Polis the man vs. Tipton the man, I’d rather be represented by Polis any day.
But predominantly rural districts tend to draw rural legislators and committee assignments that matter to rural folks. Committees, as you know, are where the power lies. Diluting rural Colorado the way the original Dem plan did would have made it pretty tough to get rural representation on those committees.
I’ve been gone most of the day and open CPols to read once again what Pols think of us outside the ‘Great Metropolis’.
I tend to agree that the 3rd should stay as close to its current configuration as possible.
I like taking my chances with what we got and think it is already a competitive district and becoming more so. But while I am sure you have all your (metaphorical) teeth, I do not know about all your neighbors…
While I think Rep. Polis is a great congressman and I would certainly be better represented by him than Mr. Tipton, I have similar issue with the hub and spoke approach myself. Some of the folks in Basalt and the backside of Eagle might be sad to be booted from the 2nd, but that would move the 3rd ever so slightly leftward…
“Present company excluded.”
You and Ellie are a credit to your region, but I doubt you speak for all of them, and I like CT have seen ample evidence that the Pols are not far off the mark.
Also, CP didn’t say anything about Polis being gay in relation to redistricting and Mesa County, I’m pretty sure ever. That was me. One can interpret what they said above about “sacred honor” several different ways. Again, I don’t think you’re protesting your own guilt, but you might want to consider the possibility that you are protesting your neighbor’s….
are batshit crazy wingnuts, I can understand why Denvercentric residents might think so.
Example A: Scott Tipton
Example B: Steve King
Example C: Laura Bradford
Example D: Ray Scott.
I could go on. Suffice it to say that we lack anything close to effective representation.
But I too occasionally suffer from that (mis)perception.
Example E: Janet Rowland
Yikes.
Not matter how we feel it, “yikes” doesn’t fix it.
You can’t replace somebody with nobody.
As much as you dislike Rowland, the woman who is being groomed to replace her is far worse.
Gertie and Ellie know who I am talking about, but I’m not mentioning any names at this point.
Follows her everywhere.
Not from around here.
They didn’t SAY it.
But nobody around here says it either.
I am sensitive to dog whistles. I have been hearing them for years.
I have not received the email yet from legislative staff with all of the break down info on population, registration, and voting history.
For now I’ll say I am very happy the Dems have made a move of reconciliation, but am a little concerned by their decision to hold the Sen. hearing at the same time as the House hearing.
The border between CD’s 2/4 and 1/6 on here have me a little concerned as well. I need a better voew to see where they actually are.
…need some help with Boulder and castle Rock being in the same dsitrict.
Heath’s comments seem to suggest this is an interim map he is hoping to help them and GOP get to a final compromise one. Um…okay
Allows people to testify in both without having to make a second trip to the capitol, hence the timing (so says Heath).
Don’t suppose they would consider moving them to the same floor? Not sure the elevators can handle the loads.
There are the stairs but then there is the issue of my ankles handling the load.
Though it appears that there are some issues with this map, at least it isn’t laughable on its face.
The sides are at least within shouting distance at this point.
Boulder and Douglas Co. in the same district… ironically, I bet the demographics are similar. Mostly rich white folk. Otherwise, totally different planets.
…we’re a bunch of toothless gay-bashers.– Ralphie, 2011
I don’t know the populations involved but I’m curious as to why Longmont is in CD4 and part of Weld County is in CD2. Why couldn’t those two areas switch to the other CD?
(This is not a loaded question, just an ignorant one.)
Otherwise, I think there is much to like with this map, especially how most of the counties are whole.
They apparently did not want to be with Boulder City.
Most of the maps we have seen have done this to keep the cities together that slop over that border.
A city can simply say they don’t like the political leaning of their current district so they want out? What happened to “make districts as compact as physically as possible”? That doesn’t exactly fit into the ‘principles’ guiding this process.
But still, if the goal is to make districts as compact as possible, it would make more sense to put Longmont in CD2 and either Westminster or Thornton in CD7. Would it not?
because of the population numbers and because so many of the cities slop over county boundaries.
I suspect there are a gajillion ways to put that puzzle together, but the numerical ramifications for rest of the state have to also be considered.
I just think it’s silly that CD7 is BARELY connected. It will go from the toilet bowl to the hourglass.
Becomes the toilet bowl.
how you advocate for keeping counties intact and yet you are fine with Boulder being split into CD2 and CD4, as it stands currently. My larger point being that counties cannot and do not always need to remain intact in a congressional district. As you, yourself, point out, sometimes it’s impossible. Sometimes impractical.
And of course Longmont wants to stay in CD4–it’s as red as red gets. Why would they want to move to a Dem district? See, this is where you all lose me. Because at the end of the day, the “voter feedback” is basically the same partisan bullshit that the legislators are also engaging in.
is that it’s easy for us Boulder hippies to get up there and do some electioneering. I didn’t realize it was quite that red though; I thought it was rather purple and just full of really rude people…
Rude. Kind of mean, even. My least favorite place to GOTV in all of CD4. That section of the county sometimes goes blue in CD races but Longmont is as red as red gets.
I have said this from the get go. In the area around Broomfield/SE Boulder/SW Weld/W Adams/NE Jeffco the county boundaries all but disappear due to the tangle of municipal boandaries.
I won’t be satisfied unless Westminster is included in CD7. To carve out a little corner of Jeffco for CD2 is ridiculous. And the same could be said about western Adams. North metro should be all CD7. Give Longmont to CD2 and eastern Adams to CD4.
Plus I’d much rather live in Perlmutter’s district than Polis’
The Adams County part is more Democratic than the Jeffco part and from looking at the district, seems to me that CD7 needed to pick up some more Democrats what with losing Aurora and gaining a part of the mountains of Jeffco. In the long run, it may not make any difference as Jeffco is becoming more swingy and so is Adams, but just a guess.
It looks like geographically the new CD-2 is a lot larger than it used to be, without really cutting anything out. Am I missing something?
from CD2 to CD7 (N Jeffco and NW Adams) which makes CD2 need to grow a lot to make up the difference.
I wanted to be in the same district as Ralphie.
This is one of your funnier comments, Dave.
Trust me.
What does that do for you? All we should be doing is making minor adjustments based on population growth, not this stupid gerrymandering stuff.
I mean seriously, Dems could be a little bit less obvious. I’ll have to check on the numbers but even with your blatant power grab I think you’d still have a tough time winning CD-4.
You are too far out on the lunatic fringe to have any effect anywhere.
Now go back to your dissertation, so you can get off the taxpayer dole ASAP.
Maybe I’ll get a job as a professor somewhere near you after I graduate. Have any kids in college?
But I think Russ George would find you distasteful.
I’ll have to try and meet Tim Foster some time. 😉
districts do you see as being brandonmandered?
Isn’t it about time for you to self-adminster your daily dope slap?
Did you read it?
I’d go with Brandymander.
But I think Random-mander would be more accurate.
for interrupting your little soliloquy-of-the-totally-absurd here at the bottom of the diary.
before using them.
Total population of the state divided by seven districts.
The unfortunate part is that you don’t understand the problem nor the process.
You know full well that you can increase GOP representation there and still keep it Dem. This means that the GOP loses voters in other places where it matters.
DPI/RPI per district
CD1: 35.3 D
CD2: 9.56 D
CD3: 4.17 R
CD4: 4.98 R
CD5: 25.88 R
CD6: 4.77 R
CD7: 6.09 D
Notably the 2 D comeptitve districts are more strongly D than the 3 competitive R districts are strongly R.
There’s a lot more to it than that. I can’t imagine that either Perlmutter or Polis are very happy with this at all. My guess is that Coffman, 5th and Tipton don’t care a whit. Gardner is none too happy. If you know Jeffco at all (and I do as the former Republican Chair out here) and believe that Adams is trending swingy, then you know that this ain’t a great map for Dems and could result in a 6-1 Republican split if Perlmutter gets into trouble and Polis goes away.
And, by the way, evenly split districts is still not a legal factor in districts that courts are going to look at.
Is Frank McNulty’s brain when he realized that Douglas county is proposed to be in the same district as Boulder.
Talk about two diametrically opposed viewpoints…..
McNulty said he likes Jared Polis and wasn’t that disturbed about being in his district. At least he could joke about it – I don’t doubt that his head exploded when he saw it.
but it looks like Douglas County is split on this map, with Highlands Ranch in CD6 instead of CD2. Bummer.
For about 3 minutes, I was in CD2 but it looks like all of Larimer is back in 4.
Highlands Ranch is a separate
community of interestdrainage.Even though it’s not formally organized as a municipality, it has a strong community organization.
and by most other groups compiling statistical data.
From a community of interest perspective, Grand Junction has more in common with Boulder than Douglas County. Let’s go back to the City Integrity map.
(Just joking, Ralphie…)
Does this mean I get to vote against Doug Lamborn? Great! Interesting, although Las Animas County is not in this district, Otero, Bent, Prowers, and Baca are strong in opposition to the expansion of the Pinon Canyon Maneuver Expansion. I could probably add Kiowa among other counties in the eastern Plains.We all have the same fragile ecology.
in the House Redistricting Committee. I seriously doubt that the Dem map will survive. It made it out of the Senate State Affairs today but is almost guaranteed to be to be DOA in the House.
I doubt this will survive, but for a couple of days, Fremont county Democrats have a reason to celebrate. Republicans are tearing their hair out. I would like to hear from Southeastern counties that are newly assigned to CD5.