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August 11, 2011 10:09 PM UTC

Lobato vs. Colorado Testimony Continues

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  • by: Colorado Pols

Heart-wrenching stuff from the Durango Herald’s Joe Hanel:

The plaintiffs, who include Montezuma-Cortez school district, want the courts to declare that Colorado is violating its own constitution by depriving students of a quality education – a verdict that could require billions of dollars more to be spent on schools…

Textbooks are outdated, and [Cortez Middle School teacher Justine] Bayles can’t assign science homework because there aren’t enough books to go around, she said.

Keefauver, a fourth-grade teacher at Kemper Elementary School, pays for field trips out of his own pocket. He also buys basic supplies such as paper and pencils.

“My kids deserve the same opportunities as any kids in the state of Colorado, any kids in the country,” Keefauver said. “It’s unfair that they have to do without some of the things I had as a student growing up, things that we even had five, six or seven years ago.”

The testimony from teachers in rural school districts who are party to this suit, building a case about the difficulty meeting the most basic educational needs, seeks to prove that minimum constitutional guarantees of a “thorough and uniform” public education system throughout the state of Colorado are being violated. Opponents, including Gov. John Hickenlooper who we’re inclined to believe does value quality public education, argue that the constitution doesn’t address funding levels and that this is a question for the legislature. Other, more conservative opponents assert that funding alone won’t help school districts meet the standard.

It’s for Judge Sheila Rappaport to decide, but we’ll say this: we know what teachers make, and we find the notion of them paying out of pocket for their students’ paper and pencils to be somewhere between reprehensible and criminal. And if that doesn’t underscore the point about “minimum standards” plaintiffs are trying to make, we honestly don’t know what could.

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  1. Well first , in the immortal words of Will Munny  deserve’s got nothin; to do with it

    Second, if they want the same opportunity as the kids in Douglas County, they should move to Douglas County. Or Denver. Or Boston or wherever they think the best opportunity is.

    Other wise, they should just recall that their ancestors had a lot less school and see how they turned out.

    1. the public school teachers I know, everyone without exception, all purchase many classroom supplies out of pocket.

      The issue everywhere in Colorado is not so much equality, as it is opportunity . . .

  2. we find the notion of them paying out of pocket for their students’ paper and pencils to be somewhere between reprehensible and criminal.

    Agreed.

    The Salvation Army has a program that fills backpacks for kids.  The more we buy, the less the teachers have to.

    Just yesterday we dropped off a backpack full of school supplies.  If you don’t have a lot of money, you don’t need to fill an entire backpack, just donate a couple of packs of paper, boxes of pencils, or a check.

    We visited the school district web site and checked the supply lists for a few local elementary schools.  We filled the backpack from the a typical list and threw in some extras–crayons, washable markers, etc.  We also threw in some things that are shared by the class, like boxes of tissues and plastic bags.

    Our local Salvation Army has more than 700 kids signed up that need supplies.  At last count they had only 450 backpacks.  You can help.  Call your local Salvation Army office.

    1. Everybody should pitch in. I will too.

      While I don’t want to take away from this good work, I feel I have to remind everybody that charity, however laudable, cannot solve the systemic deficiencies at the heart of the lawsuit.

  3. We, suburbanites and folks in “white” metro areas, have a tendency to think this is about math teachers being attracted to populated areas. It’s really not. A kid falls through the floor at a public school, you fix the fucking floor. There’s no throwing-money-at-the-problem discussion in reality. I don’t think having uniformly heated schools with working roofs and floors is out of line.

    Also, Ralphie’s post. Infinity plus one.

  4. we are the only modern industrialized nation that funds education the way we do so that being born to parents in the wrong area or neighborhood guarantees short changing promising students who most need a boost through quality education. And while money isn’t the whole answer, enough to provide basic educational materials and a building in reasonable repair that is reasonably warm in winter and not over 100% indoors in summer when school now starts and has functioning plumbing etc. should be available to all of our kids.  

    As for the healthcare situation, the local paper has the story of a young child who died because, even though he qualified for medicaid to cover medicine to control his asthma, a software problem kept telling pharmacies that he didn’t.

    ER you say?  After being off medication to control the chronic disease for a couple of years during which his mother’s repeated calls were rarely returned and no corrective action was taken, an acute attack was too much for the ER to fix. Only in the USA and in the poor backward countries of the world could this have happened.

    So when we carry on patriotically about being number one?  Not in education.  Not in healthcare. Not in low infant mortality rates.  Not in infrastructure.  The list keeps getting longer.  Definitely number one in failed social and economic conservative ideology.

    Freedom? Well we certainly aren’t free to escape paying the high costs of these various failed systems. We pay, one way or the other, for all of the things our right is supposedly fighting for the freedom not to pay for.

    Except for the wealth and power elite. They are so far ahead of the herd in share of  wealth, they don’t have to worry about any of it. They can live in armed compounds with private armies if it comes to that. The garden variety prosperous won’t be so lucky when it all boils over.

    1. it’s just that they haven’t wanted to bad enough until now, right Mark?  Or, maybe, they haven’t had some idiotic simpleton explain it to them as clearly as you can?

  5. I do know how many teachers reach into their own pockets to help out with materials.  I have several in our family and they are truly dedicated.

    But I also know a lot of public employees that work longer hours than they should, work on weekends, take work home and do other tasks for which they do not get paid.  In fact, it is very common and pervasive.

    I think all of our employees should be paid fairly and well and have decent working conditions.  Have you been in some of the state offices with cubicles that are reminiscent of cells?

    Of course there are dud employees and employees who are freeloaders, but we are pretty lucky to have a core group of dedicated employees who really do try to serve the public and do their jobs.

    1. We know this because they have contracts, and also because we don’t like them. Why just the other day I was at the DMV screaming at a clerk (who was SITTING IN A CHAIR while I had to STAND) about the parking tickets I didn’t pay (short version: it’s not fair), and she had the GALL to ask me to stay calm! CALM! ME!? STAY??  

      1. So did you get those parking tickets for staying too late at your shrink’s office?

        Don’t underestimate the importance of staying on the Rx regime that was prescribed for you.

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