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August 18, 2011 12:25 AM UTC

"Dr. Evil's" Advocate?

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  • by: Colorado Pols

From a Huffington Post report yesterday:

A lawsuit filed in late May of this year by 34 past and present lawmakers seeks to overturn the amendment. The suit challenges TABOR’s constitutionality on the grounds that rigid tax and spending limits obstruct the General Assembly’s obligation to govern. After TABOR’s passing, state representative Doug Bruce, the measure’s champion, said TABOR “was the most important event in Colorado since statehood.”

TABOR’s critics say the measure has deeply harmed education funding and public health programs in the state.

In the interim since 1992, Bruce has staunchly defended the measure. His political activities in the state have also included numerous other anti-tax initiatives, hiding from subpoenas, illegally practicing law, and failing to pay taxes (no surprise there)…

Nevertheless Doug Bruce is ad nauseum gleeful over Gov. John Hickenlooper’s request this week, as the named defendant in the case, for the lawsuit challenging Bruce’s 1992 Taxpayers’ Bill of Rights (TABOR) as an unconstitutional usurpation of legislative power to be dismissed. Hickenlooper has likewise, as we’ve discussed, weighed in against a suit from rural school districts challenging the constitutional adequacy of Colorado’s education funding mechanisms.

As governor, of course, Hickenlooper has an obligation to argue the state’s case, and defend the efficacy of state law. Beyond that, there are legitimate arguments for defending the process from being declared constitutionally broken–at the federal constitutional level with the TABOR lawsuit, or at the state level with Lobato vs. Colorado. They all boil down to one central premise: “the system can work.” We really do think that everyone who values both the democratic and republican (lower case) aspects of our system should be receptive to this idea.

But in both cases, can Hickenlooper prove it works; or has Bruce already proven otherwise?

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31 thoughts on ““Dr. Evil’s” Advocate?

  1. It’s written from a liberal slant but you acknowledge something very important: the possibility that the system, including the Taxpayers Bill of Rights, works just fine. This is what Hickenlooper AND Bruce are saying. I really appreciate this from you guys.

    A few weeks ago, Libertad told you that he was considering supporting Rollie Heath’s tax increase. I personally can’t see myself doing so, but the existence of that tax increase on the ballot is proof that our system under TABOR does work. As long as the voters support higher taxes, we can have them and there is therefore no reason for either of these lawsuits.

    +1!

    1. raises tax rates,  that will mean less tax revenue.

      The way to get more revenue is to cut tax rates.

      See, so if you are serious about smaller gov’t – you whould support higher rates.

      How do you like me now? uh

      1. If it were only so simple. You will get less revenue and more government. The private sector will shrink.

        The raise tax rates crowd needs to admit they dont care about total revenuue and are more interested in tax rates so high, they are punitive. Envy.

        1. in your ignorance.

          Go outside and take your chalk and write on the sidewalk. Something where the rain or a hose will wash away the stupid shit you post.

        2. I want gov’t to be funded to do the stuff we want it to do at least as well as it needs to and for some stuff,  at least as well as required to compete with the global economy.

          After that, I want gov’t to do nothing more.

    2. We’ve got to stop the exploding expansion of state government in Colorado. Cutting taxes will only increase tax revenue, increasing the size of government. As an ultra-right fiscal conservative, I support Rollie Heath’s initiative to increase taxes and cut government revenue.

  2. I guess to continue believing so, you have to believe this is one more step toward making things so much worse that eventually voters decide they have to maybe support a tax increase (without ever of course asking them for a tax increase).

    Face it, Hickenlooper is a deadbeat who cares about literally nothing other than staying drunk enough to tolerate this boring part until the next election.

    1. We desperately need money put into ALL levels of our state education system. Tuition seems to be going up every semester, although it could just be a misperception caused by the echo of my empty bank account.

      Last spring, at only 12 credit hours, cost roughly 3.5 thousand dollars. And this is at a freakin’ community college!

      Our education crisis isn’t just at the local level, it goes beyond Hickenlooper’s cowardice and can be traced all the way to Washington. Democrats need to find their spines and GO(T)Pers need to realize that a great education will do more for the next generation, not ridiculous spending and tax cuts.

      1. That’s really comforting, Ralphie. My tuition went up 32% last semester and 23% this one. Emerald Knight and I are the ones paying more because the state won’t step up to the plate and support K-12 or higher education.

        Most of the folks at my school are working one or two jobs and operating on a fixed budget. Sorry if you’re bitter, but if you don’t care that K-12 has been cut half a billion dollars in the last 2 years and that our state support for higher education is dead last in the nation, you’ll have to excuse me for whining (and working to solve the problem).

        Asking Hick to step us as a Democrat and support increased revenue isn’t whining, it’s defending our values.

        1. Please don’t fall into the conservative trap of referring to the “state” or the “government” as if they’re some abstract “other.” They are us. You and Emerald are paying more because we haven’t stepped up to the plate. It’s a shame and we shouldn’t be let off the hook. (Well, ok, at least c rork blames the state for this shit and not me and the rest of Colorado’s citizens. Whew, dodged that bullet.[Dem slinks away, stage left.])

  3. a) He is absolutely correct that TABOR, etc should be undone through the initiative process. Short circuiting it via the courts is not democracy, it’s benevolent dictatorship.

    b) He always has an excuse about why things are not yet desperate enough to fight for better funding for education. Somehow I think he’ll always have an excuse.

    1. Unless the Constitution is changed again to allow multiple subjects under one title.

      To get rid of TABOR requires many initiatives under the current Constitution.

      The courts can look at the whole package and can the whole or several pieces at once.  

      1. The single subject requirement does people keep from putting totally unrealted items together, but it does not stop the legislature or a citizens initiative from creating a measure that is broad but still on one topic. In this case “A Bill (or An Amendment) Concerning Taxation” could be used as a title to bill to undo TABOR in its entirety.

        Or better yet, “An Amendment to Repeal Article XX” works too.

  4. “On behalf of the State of Colorado, I plead guilty as hell your honor, and I throw myself and The Bruce at the mercy of the court (but, feel free to order lethal injection for Dougie, if it so pleases your honor.)”  

    1. As your Democratic governor, due to political cowardice and a desire to maintain high approval ratings, will not take a stance on increasing revenue for schools, civil unions, in-state tuition for undocumented students, redistricting, reapportionment, school funding in general, or pretty much anything that might force me to take a tough stance on anything. Furthermore, I will give the Republicans political cover by saying that there isn’t an appetite for tax increases, appoint industry shills to oversee health care exchange boards and do other things that generally piss off Democrats.

      Yours Truly,

      The Governor.

      1. Frankly I don’t heart Hick quite as much as some Dems seem to. Just because he’s goofy looking, talks folksy and has big ears doesn’t mean he’s harmless. We didn’t know what we were getting when we voted for him, but we’re finding out: Not much, so far.

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