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July 19, 2013 10:40 AM UTC
28 Comments
Will they include the names of terrorists and cop killers this time around? You stay classy liberals!
Well, ain't you a big, strong, pile of badassitude….
Can I quote you on that? Thanks for the kind words!
I thought the entire point of no background checks was to get guns into the hands of terrorists and cop killers. Shouldn't you be celebrating these people, Tommy?
Yes, you hit the nail on the head MapMaker. The only reason I oppose background checks is to make sure that cop killers and terrorists get guns. Since, you know, they ALWAYS go through the legal channels to obtain firearms!
If you really cared about the issue, why not come at me with an argument that does not impunge upon my motives.
Fine, I think your motives are pretty clear and you have no need to apologize for them. After all, there's absolutly no reason to pass laws aginst acts that people won't obey. Just look at the ineffectivness of laws aginst theft, tax evasion, murder etc. May as well not have laws aginst any of them either.
As far as arming terrorists, the House Commerce committee rejected a proposal for background checks for people on the FBI Terrorist Watch List. It seems like the motivation is pretty clear.
Now, it could be that making it easier (if toothlessly illegal) for terrorists and cop-killers to get guns through legal channels (gun shows) is only an unintended consequence of your opposition to background checks. Perhaps you want to preserve your right to keep your cache of guns from the government's knowledge. While it's not in the realm of possibility that the government will try to confiscate your legal weapons (bazookas, full auto machine guns etc. excepted) you want to be prepared, just in case.
So if the unthinkable happens and the government comes to get your guns you can fight off the cops, SWAT, Seal Teams, whatever. You're just protecting your right to be a cop-killer too!
Well done sir.
Show me evidence that BGC’s reduce crime rates and I would be willing to give my opinions a second look.
No, you wouldn't. You would discount the evidence. BGCs have preented a lot of felons fro getting guns. 58% of those denied were convicted felons
Would you care to elaborate on what your opinions are on background checks? If you've already done this then you can just give me a link to where you've posted a broader explanation. For my own education can you point me to a description of just what a background check would entail? Please don't send me to a RMGO or NRA site for these descriptions, they have a history of lying about what background checks are as well as what happens when gun control legislation is enacted.
For my part I'd think that a background check would include an identity check, a check for the kind of criminal record that would prevent the applicant from owning a gun, and, since I brought it up, a check of the FBI Terrorist Watch List. Are there any other checks that you know of that would be required under your understanding of what a background check is?
Let's consider James Holmes. As far as I can tell, he would have passed the minimal background check that I outlined above. However, he did not pass the membership background check conducted by the gun club he applied to. If the gun club background check were somehow institutionalized then it's likely that Holmes would have been stopped before he acquired his entire arsenal.
Would this have prevented him from acquiring the arsenal he did acquire? Judging by his profile, he would have had difficulty entering the criminal black market. While we'll never know if he could have duplicated his purchases on the black market, we do know that his selection would have been more limited and more expensive than it was.
Yes, this is a "Just So Story". However, it is a resonable alternate scenario. Until you can expand on just what you mean by "show me that BGCs reduce crime" I'm not prepared to delve into the history of gun control around the world. Show me that this requirement is not just a throw-off slogan and I'll engage further.
TommyLeForce…a quick note on etymology.
Though I might be wrong about this, I do not think "impunge" means what you think it does. I think you mean to say, "impugn my motives".
I would not, personally, impugn your motives…only your conclusions.
Indeed you are correct. Its one of those words I constantly misspell, that and for some reason maintenance.
Hahaha! They don't get that Bloomberg's people actually did include terrorist names in their "memorial."
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/06/20/mayors-against-illegal-guns-apologizes-for-calling-boston-bombing-suspect-victim-of-gun-violence/
And they apologized.
Haha – you don't get why background checks are a good thing. And you never will.
Show me evidence that BGC's reduce crime and I would definately be willing to give them a second look.
Are you fucking with me?
"tommyleforce"? Is this the same "tommyleforce" that's backing the notorious jaxine bubis for State Senate?
Ok, "conservative values" defender that you are, is this the same "tommyleforce" that believes a purveyor of pornagraphic materials is the "role model" you teabaggers are looking up to? Are you down to that level of candidate" (I'll help you on that one……….It's a "Yes".)
Ah, the irony, "tommy leforce" using the word "classy".
Did I support Bubis at the start? Yes, I did. However, after the revelations of her peculiar side job came out, I changed my mind. I do not see anything wrong with that.
So, being a bad porn writer negated her other qualifications?
And the relevance of this to Tommy's points is….what exactly again?
(and btw, I was one of the people who strongly opposed Bubis getting anywhere close to the nomination and yet I am not sure why this is getting brought up here)
You're a lawyer, Elliot. Think about it. I'm sure it'll come to you.
doubtful
Really?
El–
See, if Bubis was running as a Dem in Denver and was found out to be a very untalented writer of well, to put it politely, erotica, the Dems would be, wow, we got us a porno granny running.
Bubis's failed attempts at writing are not a problem for we Dems. (I personally find it HIGH-larious.)
It's only a problem for the holier-than-any-other-being-in-the-entire-universe crowd that she wrote bad pr0n.
But I'm glad it got brought up here, because, see above, HIGH-larious.
Also, I want personally to thank the Arapahoe GOP group for getting rid of the ArapaGroper for me. I tried to get rid of him for years and failed.
I noticed you only threatened to "out" him on their site, not here, where outing people can get you banned. . . .
Just to be clear, I'm not outing ArapaGOP as don't I definitively know who it is. I have a very strong hunch though based on some evidence.
Just to be clear, I'm not outing ArapaGOP as I don't definitively know who it is. I have a very strong hunch though based on some evidence.
You have to say something three times to make it true in the old childhood maxim. Give it one more try, El.
Whether I need to say something once, twice, or three times to make it true is one thing. Whether you need to say something once to be a jerk is another.
Jerk, is it? That's one of the nicest things I've been called on teh interwebbies, El. You wouldn't survive three comments if you posted on the meangirl sites where I hang out.