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October 03, 2013 06:21 AM UTC

Government Shutdown Day 3 Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

"The whole country is one vast insane asylum and they're letting the worst patients run the place."

–Robert W. Welch, Jr.

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    1. The Oh My God Road that I'm familar with is a dirt road that connects Idaho Springs to Central City. The photo, on the other hand, shows the Big Thompson Canyon.

      1. Same here. I never want to drive it with anyone but my husband at the wheel. He grew up in the mountains of Idaho and drives it without turning a hair. 

    1. I heard the head of the National Park Service this morning in C-SPAN saying they were doing this for the veterans' 1st amendment rights. Interesting statement. I'm thinking ALL of us need to exercise our 1st amendment rights in D.C. if the crazies aren't arrested for treason soon.

    2. Au contraire — if the wingnuts aren't funding the durn gubmint', then by gum let 'em finally learn just a little about WTF that gubmint' really is . . .

      We're losing teaching moments to help the t-baggers start to understand what it is that they say they want to eliminate.  Selective government is not government!

  4. Apparently, the above picture is of route 34 by Loveland, along the Big Thompson River. It looks like the Oh My God road, route 119, which connects Georgetown, Central City, and Idaho Springs via Guanella pass, but it isn't the real OMG road. State Hwy 119 also has flood damage and is closed at the east end, and in other sections, but I don't have a picture.

    Tragic nonetheless. We hope that Colorado will be reimbursed by the Feds for the cost of paying the National Guard to repair all of these flooded roads.

    2. FYI – the OMG road is a dirt road linking Central City to Idaho Springs – it's the old coach road between the two.

      CO-119 is a paved road running from US-6 in Clear Creek Canyon through Black Hawk to Nederland, then down Boulder Canyon and up via the Diagonal Highway to Longmont and then I-25. It is closed through Boulder Canyon (though they are now leading the RTD N route down it a few times a day with a state patrol guide.) It does not continue to Georgetown as far as I know…

        1. That is the “Million Dollar Highway”, ma’am.
          For sheer “oh, my God”, terror. The JQS trail to the top of the Roan Plateau gets my vote…especially in the rain.

            1. Its a great road to drive, in the right conditions.  Although once I had to back up around the hairpin turn at the top because the person coming up would not yield the ROW even though his move would have been much easier…

  6. Has the Denver Post's filing deadline moved up recently?  The daily paper has missed the end of Broncos games.  Last night, they didn't report the final score of the Avalanche home game and missed Patrick Roy's end of game blowout.  Further proof of the end of papers as we knew them.

  7. I was listening to the radio in the middle of the night, not by choice, but by senior insomnia, KOA, gave the time as 2:00 AM, it was really 3:00 Am.  The radio weather forcasts at night are usually a day off…..crazy.  If we had an emergency, KOA would probably not be able to report it, because nobody's there.  I think the other stations are the same way.

    Granted the flood coverage was current….but if something unexpected happened at 3AM, who would you call?  Where would you find up to date information? 

      1. and Twitter. I found Twitter had great, up-to-the-minute information from various law enforcement agencies during Colorado's flood.

        I think you're right about radio – reminds me of the (only) radio station in Canon City – their forecasts are sometimes a day behind along with alot of their news.

          1. I usually find out about it via Facebook – where I can often get a Twitter hashtag that's acting as a live feed aggregator for an event.

            I can't deal with Twitter on a regular basis. I'm not an SMS-message based person and can't deal with the abbreviated responses unless I'm looking at something specific.

  8. Apparently many GOP House members never matured beyond their Middle School years. 

    House Republicans are continuing to play hardball in negotiations over the spending bill that precipitated the government shutdown on Oct. 1, apparently out of fear that compromise would weaken their power.

    "We're not going to be disrespected," Rep. Marlin Stutzman (R-Ind.) told The Washington Examiner. "We have to get something out of this. And I don't know what that even is." (my emphasis)

  9. A sufficient number of Rs have said they'd vote for the clean CR that it could be passed in the House, contrary, of course, to the Hastert rule, which Boehner has broken before. Official word is still that Boehner won't budge on CR or debt ceiling without concessions on ACA but saw this at Huffpost:

    10:48 AM – Today

    Anonymous GOP Rep: Boehner Willing To Break Hastert Rule To Pass Debt Ceiling Hike

    An anonymous Republican member told The New York Times Thursday that House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) would be willing to break the so-called Hastert Rule to pass a debt ceiling hike. The Hastert Rule is a custom that states any legislation must have the support of the majority of the party that controls the House in order to pass.

    The Treasury Department has said that it will reach its borrowing limit on Oct. 17, two weeks from today. Treasury also released a report Thursday showing potentially catastrophic macroeconomic effects if the limit is not increased.

    — Luke Johnson

    2. In answer to your thoughts on possible lower security, it's being reported and confirmed by DC folks who frequent the Capitol that there hasn't been any lessening of security. If anything some think it feels like there' s been a little more because of expected protests. So that, at least, isn't a problem yet.

  12. Check out the video on Huffpo re: pinko Congressional Rep impostor randy neugebauer at the WW2 Memorial.

    This is why we're at the point we now find ourselves.

    This republican teabag contingent, neugebauer included, has caused chaos and anarchy allready. This neugebauer turd actually CHEWED OUT A PARK RANGER for doing her job.

    All kidding aside, I can't tell if he doesn't realize the redleg workplace sabotage caused this, if he knows it, but doesn't want to admit it, or simply ran away because the gentleman in the bicycle helmet chewed his pinko ass.

    I'm telling you, the anarchy is by republican design.

    Worth watching. 

    1. And then there are the real Government employees.

      On a day when a shitbag  from tex-ass making 174,000 a year to work drunk treated a US Park Ranger so very badly, the Capitol Police that saved the day were officers that came to work today in spite of the fact neugebauer and his worthless drunken teabag ilk cut thier pay 3 days ago.

      That's right, these "evil govbmint" employees saved neugebauer's worthless ass while on the job WITHOUT PAY! 

    2. That video is enough to get anyone's blood boiling.  What an idiot! Assume the government shut down was Congress fault, not just the tea baggers.  Assume it really is Reid's fault or Obama's fault.  How does that translate to telling a park ranger she should be ashamed of doing her job.  It is like getting angry at the McDonald's cashier because you value meal costs an extra 25 cents. Not only are you an idiot to complain about it, you are complaining (and attempting to belittle) the wrong person.  Neugebauer showed his true colors.

      1. The beauty of it is, GOPT Reps were supposed to be convincing people that it's Obama and the Dems who are to blame for the shut down. Now some might blame the Dems more and some might blame the Rs more but nobody is going to blame a park ranger for the consequences of the government shut down. People like park rangers. 

        I guess none of his fellow Rs thought to warn him about that because who would imagine anybody who can dress himself without assistance would be that stupid? 

        So goodbye empty chair conference and all the other GOPT attempts to convince people that they, the Republicans who shut down the government because they couldn't get Obama to agree to kill his own duly passed, signed and Supreme Court approved signature legislation for them when they couldn't do it themselves, are outraged by that very same government shut down they clapped and cheered and danced over. 

        Hello endless loops of these two bozos, one blaming a park ranger for the shut down and the other admitting they did it because they were miffed and won't stop until they get something, they don't even know what.

        Thanks, GOPT morons. We could never have changed the subject so effectively without you.

    3. But Mark Segraves, reporting for NBC News' Washington affiliate, managed to capture the howler highlight of the Great World War II Memorial Bleat-n-Repeat — Rep. Randy Neugebauer's (R-Tex.) Wednesday confrontation of a poor park ranger on the scene — who was doing nothing more than her job — blaming her for the closure he voted for and telling her that she should be ashamed of herself.

       

      That was the are you kidding me part. Here's the good part: 

       

      From there, Segraves reports, "a crowd of onlookers got involved," and began loudly demanding that Neugebauer lay off the park ranger, pointing out again and again that the reason everyone was in the position they were in was due to the fact that Congress very specifically put them there. Neugebauer countered that it was all really Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's (D-Nev.) fault, but that failed to impress anyone.

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/03/congressman-park-ranger-memorial_n_4037524.html

       

      So who's losing what now?

  13. We had a new intern start today and learned – eVerify is shut down as part of the shutdown. So all the GOP people screaming about illegal immigration – well right now companies can hire all the illegal immigrants they want to, because there's no way to check.

    That's one way to address illegal immigration.

  14. More good stuff:

    The shutdown is hurting state and local governments, they told The Huffington Post, and while they understand a need to address Obamacare at the federal level, shutting down the government is not the answer. The shutdown would do more harm than good to the Republican Party in the long-term, the GOP state legislators said.

    "As it is prolonged, people will start looking for someone to blame," Kansas state Rep. J.R. Claeys (R-Salina) told HuffPost. "When they look for someone to blame, it will be House Republicans. Whether it is real or not, it does not matter."

    Claeys agrees with House Republicans' position on the health care law, but he said there are better ways to get the point across than tying it to continued funding of the federal government. He questioned why they even connected the two, saying it was a goal that would never be reached.

    "I think asking the president to sign something that defunds or postpones his signature domestic policy achievement is something that he will not budge on," Claeys said. "I am not sure what the point is."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/03/republican-legislators-shutdown_n_4039119.htm

    The GOP strategy is looking more brilliant by the minute, right?

  15. And another crack with a little light shining through:

    WASHINGTON — Speaker John A. Boehner has privately told Republican lawmakers anxious about fallout from the government shutdown that he would not allow a potentially more crippling federal default as the atmosphere on Capitol Hill turned increasingly tense on Thursday.

    Mr. Boehner’s comments, recounted by multiple lawmakers, that he would use a combination of Republican and Democratic votes to increase the federal debt limit if necessary appeared aimed at reassuring his colleagues — and nervous financial markets — that he did not intend to let the economic crisis spiral further out of control.

     

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/04/us/politics/debt-limit-impasse.html

     

    Wall Street had enough? Not crazy about the Masters of the Universe but sometimes  the enemy of your enemy really can be your friend. At least as long as you need a few enemies knocked off. 

    1. Maybe Boehner's found something worth fighting against the tide of his rampaging horde for – the solvency of the country and the world economy. No way he'd want to take ownership of that failure, and he knows the GOP brand would be destroyed in the process.

      The question is – how much will the TeaPublicans fight back now that they've seen this? I said it the other day and I'll say it again – if Boehner's willing to deliver 20+ moderate Republican votes across the aisle for real bipartisanship until the election, I'd support House Democratic efforts to prop up his speakership until 2015.

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