President Obama is set to speak to the nation about the U.S. strategy for taking on ISIS (or ISIL, if you prefer).
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Because bombing goat herders in Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen has served us so well over the past 13 years to “degrade and defeat teh terrists”. Not like we create two new ones from the children (or parents) of the ones we kill today. I have seen some on this forum complain in the past, on very trivial grounds, about how their tax dollars are spent (as if they had a legitimate say or a legitimate beef…)
To this new adventure, I object, and strenuously. Much good it will do me, or those in the crosshairs of the drone bombs.
If the policy of bombing goatherds forward from the Middle Ages had worked even once 1% as well as promised, we'd have GOPers clamoring to carve W's pointy head onto Mount Rushmore.
Hey folks, this will be the last crusade, pinky promise!
The GOPer's calculated presponse:
"Representative Jack Kingston, the Georgia Republican, offered a surprisingly honest, if amazingly cynical, assessment of the politics of the moment, saying that Republicans “like the path we’re on now.”
“We can denounce it if it goes bad, and praise it if it goes well and ask what took him so long,” Kingston told The New York Times."
The party of the craven and the calculating . . . sharpen your knives, boys!!
http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/09/10/dick-cheney-and-other-republicans-throw-stones-at-obama-from-glass-house/?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share
Beat me to it. At least those Georgia Republicans are honest about their naked cynicism and complete disregard for even trying to accomplish anything but failure for their opponents regardless of consequences. Here's more naked cynicism courtesy from another Georgia Republican on another issue. Apparently they really don't care about letting everyone know what schmucks they are. Whatever happened to all that noble, gracious southern gentleman crap?
Why did Obama even give the speech?
NBC/WSJ – Voters trust GOP more on all of these issues:
Defense +38
Foreign Policy +18
Economy +10
Immigration +7
Deficit +18
Taxes +4
You forgot a few…
Cruelty + 46
Greed +105
Dishonesty +87
Racism + 66
Xenophobia +38
This has nothing to do with my comment so WTF are you doing in my reply box, Piss Ant? Lamest look over there ever.
B.C., Give the guy some credit. He said, "African-American" instead of what he was thinking.
Obviously there is a lot going on behind the scenes. The fact that nobody likes what Obama is doing means he is problably doing something right. The pacifists are outraged he is using military force and the Republicans are outraged that he isn't bombing everything in sight.
A measured response without hysterics or illusions. I'll trust Obama on this one for sure.
I agree….
ditto
The Obama administration has an actual term for precisely what you're referring to: when nobody is happy, they say they've hit "the sweet spot."
One should wonder why Obama prefers to use the acronym ISIL, which stands for Islamic State of Iraq and Levant. The ancient Levant covered the entire eastern Mediterranean seaboard from southern Turkey to Egypt, including the present state of Israel. Obviously, the ISIS radicals aspire to include the land of Israel within their emerging caliphate. So why does Obama have an insistant preference for the acronym ISIL over ISIS … any guesses?
People are complaining that it's because the S stands for Syria and he has preferred not to make this about interfering in Syria. But whatever you call it, I'm sorry. I'm not going along with the whole why bomb goatherds thing on this one. Whether you call it ISIS or ISIL they are so far beyond the pale they're too crazy for El Qaeda. And their leader, Baghdadi, is an experienced military leader. They are better organized and better equipped than any bunch of goatherds. The question, as always in this region, is who the hell is our ally? Who the hell do we arm? Where are those arms going to end up?
Many, including me, have said the that the Cheney/Bush decision to blow up the region by invading Iraq in a failed scheme to use 9/11 as an excuse for Haliburton to replace Saddam with their boy Chalabi was the most catastrophic strategic blunder in our nation's history. Well here you have it. From that day to this there have been no good options for repairing the damage and, increasingly, not even less bad options. If anybody sees any good or even less bad options available, I'd love to hear about them. Hope Bush is having fun painting while the fires he set rage on.
Had me with the first paragraph, lost me on the second.
It is a little frightening when the cited example of success for what he plans on doing is Somalia.
I think Obama would wish all the world's problems would go away without him doing anything, but the won't. We now have about 1,500 "advisors" in the country. If we are going to coordinate the air strikes with advances by the Iraq army and the Kurds, they will not exactly be protecting the embassy. To accomplish the task there will need to be feet on the ground.
You don't always get to pick your fights. But when you are in a fight, you get to pick what you are willing to do in order to win it.
No one here cares what you think. You blew any chance at credibility long ago…
The longer you continue posting here, the more votes you win for the Democrats….keep it up.
What a bunch of bullshit. You will never ever in your lifetime ever encounter the level of hate and disrespect that this president has to deal with everyday. Everybody wishes the world would be a better place but this president never shies away from meeting problems with a sense of calm resolve. Pieces of shit like you who would shrivel up in a fetal position if you ever had to deal with his level of stress never get it right. Your shock and awe cheerleading led us to this situation and you wimps can only stand around with your limp dicks in your hand complaining how it wasn't enough for Obama to get Bin Laden or remove chemical weapons from Syria. Fuck you asshole. You're corporate political elites had their chance and they cratered our economy and destroyed stability in the Middle East. History will look back on this time and folks will say "Thank God Obama was couragous enough to try and clean up their messes".
Which must be why most Americans consider his Presidency a failure, right?
No, you ignorant ass…this is the reason. No previous president in my lifetime has had to fight his way upstream like President Obama. If the GOP had not sold out this country because of their hatred of that black man in the White House, we could have made much more progress in healing and fixing the damage done by Bushco, Inc.
If my assessment of the Cheney/Bush decision to attack and occupy Iraq is so off base why was was the RCP average approval for Bush at approximately this time in 2006, the year of his second term midterm, 40.8 approval and 55.6 disapproval? Why was it down to 39% approval by election day that year? 25% by election day 2008? Because the public thought going to war in Iraq for Halliburton, blowing up the counter to Iran along with our economy and fully unleashing all the crazies was such a swell idea? Yeah, right.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_bush_job_approval-904.html
In 1945 when Winston Churchill's party was defeated and he was replaced as Prime Minister, the popular opinion was that he as a failure. Fickle public opinion which is heavily influenced by the lies and distortions of the likes of you won't mean much when viewed through the lens of history. The great ones like Nelson Mandela are usually reviled until history proves them prescient. Obama is not only a pioneer but a calm terrorist killer who avoided another Rwanda on that mountain. History won't be as harsh as asshole critics like you.
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It’s because he not-so-secretly supports them, and WANTS them to take over Israel. If that isn’t completely clear to you, if you even have to pose the question “why ISIL, not ISIS”, you really should check the tuning on your tinfoil Harry…
Thank you.
I like to believe there is an especially hot corner of Hell set aside for Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Wolfowitz, and the rest of those war-mongering corporate whores who have killed so many and have caused so much pain, misery, and sorrow.
It'll be a corner with a large comfortable couch, no doubt — where AC and all their other shitspinners can lap dance for them and the Kochs for all eternity.
("Hell" is probably just another word for GOPer heaven. How much misery and suffering have these fuckers all celebrated getting fat together during their little lifetimes on this mortal plane?)
I've just been watching the replay of the attack on the WTC…the thing I can't get out of my head is that Bush and company might have prevented it, if they were not so preoccupied figuring how to get access to Iraqs' oil….
Correct. It could have been prevented by merely informing the airlines of the possibility that airplanes might be hijacked and, therefore, they should harden the cockpit doors. Don't forget that the attacks were accomplished with razor blades. And now we are left with no good foreign policy options.